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Post by Lomelis on Jul 4, 2020 18:27:43 GMT
That's good. So do you think an incompetent corrupt President who doesn't care about the troops escalating things with Putin would put our troops in even more danger? Sadly, yes. But that absolves trumP of nothing. In fact, it is just another charge added to the impossibly long list of charges against him. I hope the Biden administration doesn't sweep them under the carpet. I want trump held accountable. Ok. So wouldn't that mean that if you knew that Trump would put more troops in danger, would do more harm than good, that would it be pretty fucking dumb to call on Trump to take those actions? Right?
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Post by bama beau on Jul 4, 2020 18:44:05 GMT
Their lives are in danger because they are in Afghanistan engaged in combat with the Taliban (for 19 years now) and ISIS-K. If the concern is their lives, then bring them home, because whatever mission we are there to achieve failed a long time ago. But we're not. The House is now planning to hold up any troop withdrawal, which was likely the aim of the leaks. But Trump must do something even though I don't really want Trump to do anything but he must do something so that I can criticize him because if he doesn't then I'm going to criticize him some more. I'm Greg and I don't give a shit about the troops. From this point forward, you have been accusing Greg of something that I have not seen him do in this thread, i.e., needlessly or recklessly endanger the lives of US service people anywhere.
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Post by bama beau on Jul 4, 2020 18:50:04 GMT
Sadly, yes. But that absolves trumP of nothing. In fact, it is just another charge added to the impossibly long list of charges against him. I hope the Biden administration doesn't sweep them under the carpet. I want trump held accountable. Ok. So wouldn't that mean that if you knew that Trump would put more troops in danger, would do more harm than good, that would it be pretty fucking dumb to call on Trump to take those actions? Right? Nobody is doing that here. Or to stay on point, Greg isn't. He is righteously chastising trumP. If the Russians did offer bounties, and it appears to me that they did, and if trumP knew or should have known, but he intentionally ignored that intel, then how could any of us be anything less than outraged? Aren't you angered by this?
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Post by Lomelis on Jul 4, 2020 19:44:16 GMT
But Trump must do something even though I don't really want Trump to do anything but he must do something so that I can criticize him because if he doesn't then I'm going to criticize him some more. I'm Greg and I don't give a shit about the troops. From this point forward, you have been accusing Greg of something that I have not seen him do in this thread, i.e., needlessly or recklessly endanger the lives of US service people anywhere. Did you even read the thread? Greg clearly wants Trump to be confrontational with Russia: That last quote was where I had it and it became obvious that Greg didn't really give shit about the troops. He simply wanted to attack Trump. I was also not the only one who pointed out that if Greg was concerned about the safety of the troops then the obvious answer was to bring them home. Bama, I know you have some tribal instinct to defend Greg but you're wrong here.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2020 19:46:27 GMT
Why hasn't Adam Schiff come forward and told us all about the evidence he has the absolutely proves Trump is guilty of treason....again?
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Post by Lomelis on Jul 4, 2020 19:50:24 GMT
Ok. So wouldn't that mean that if you knew that Trump would put more troops in danger, would do more harm than good, that would it be pretty fucking dumb to call on Trump to take those actions? Right? Nobody is doing that here. Or to stay on point, Greg isn't. He is righteously chastising trumP. If the Russians did offer bounties, and it appears to me that they did, and if trumP knew or should have known, but he intentionally ignored that intel, then how could any of us be anything less than outraged? Aren't you angered by this? I am outraged that we have our troops there as it is a waste and puts our troops in danger. How am I going to be anymore outraged when the precise reason I don't want our troops there is because they are going to be shot at? They are in a war zone. WTF do you think is going to happen to them? I am definitely not going to call on the President to do something that will put them in even more danger.
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Post by Greg55_99 on Jul 4, 2020 20:03:50 GMT
From this point forward, you have been accusing Greg of something that I have not seen him do in this thread, i.e., needlessly or recklessly endanger the lives of US service people anywhere. Did you even read the thread? Greg clearly wants Trump to be confrontational with Russia: That last quote was where I had it and it became obvious that Greg didn't really give shit about the troops. He simply wanted to attack Trump. I was also not the only one who pointed out that if Greg was concerned about the safety of the troops then the obvious answer was to bring them home. Bama, I know you have some tribal instinct to defend Greg but you're wrong here. You have quoted me EXACTLY correct. The President has been presented with Information that places the lives of our servicemen in danger. He's supposed to Do SOMETHING. Act on it. Show the people in the field he has their backs. He has done NOTHING. No phone calls to Putin about it. No threats of sanctions. No freezing money from Russian oligarchs in US banks. NOTHING. Not a fucking word. If anyone has betrayed the trust of servicemen, it's Trump. Greg
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2020 20:08:48 GMT
Apparently Gregg is not the only vet to think so.
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Post by Lomelis on Jul 4, 2020 20:13:43 GMT
Did you even read the thread? Greg clearly wants Trump to be confrontational with Russia: That last quote was where I had it and it became obvious that Greg didn't really give shit about the troops. He simply wanted to attack Trump. I was also not the only one who pointed out that if Greg was concerned about the safety of the troops then the obvious answer was to bring them home. Bama, I know you have some tribal instinct to defend Greg but you're wrong here. You have quoted me EXACTLY correct. The President has been presented with Information that places the lives of our servicemen in danger. He's supposed to Do SOMETHING. Act on it. Show the people in the field he has their backs. He has done NOTHING. No phone calls to Putin about it. No threats of sanctions. No freezing money from Russian oligarchs in US banks. NOTHING. Not a fucking word. If anyone has betrayed the trust of servicemen, it's Trump. Greg See what I mean Bama? No call there for Trump to bring the troops home. Greg wants to put them in even more danger.
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Post by phillip on Jul 4, 2020 20:15:17 GMT
Apparently Gregg is not the only vet to think so.
Putin has Donald by his whitey tighties.
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Post by bama beau on Jul 4, 2020 20:21:29 GMT
You have quoted me EXACTLY correct. The President has been presented with Information that places the lives of our servicemen in danger. He's supposed to Do SOMETHING. Act on it. Show the people in the field he has their backs. He has done NOTHING. No phone calls to Putin about it. No threats of sanctions. No freezing money from Russian oligarchs in US banks. NOTHING. Not a fucking word. If anyone has betrayed the trust of servicemen, it's Trump. Greg See what I mean Bama? No call there for Trump to bring the troops home. Greg wants to put them in even more danger. I get what you're saying. You may not believe it, but I actually agree with the main points that each of you are trying to make. Greg: trumP is a POS CiC. You: Brings the troops home ASAP. I'd think you two could find common ground.
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Post by Lomelis on Jul 5, 2020 0:20:57 GMT
See what I mean Bama? No call there for Trump to bring the troops home. Greg wants to put them in even more danger. I get what you're saying. You may not believe it, but I actually agree with the main points that each of you are trying to make. Greg: trumP is a POS CiC. You: Brings the troops home ASAP. I'd think you two could find common ground. Unlikely. I actually care about getting our troops out of harms way. Greg clearly does not. That divide can not become overcome.
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Post by Greg55_99 on Jul 5, 2020 1:40:29 GMT
I get what you're saying. You may not believe it, but I actually agree with the main points that each of you are trying to make. Greg: trumP is a POS CiC. You: Brings the troops home ASAP. I'd think you two could find common ground. Unlikely. I actually care about getting our troops out of harms way. Greg clearly does not. That divide can not become overcome. Hey Sparky, I was deployed to the AOR in the run up to the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq. In other words, I could have gotten killed just like anyone else. Somehow you have conflated with Trump failing to protect servicemen in his charge with withdrawing them from Afghanistan. THOSE are two separate issues. If Trump wants the troops out of Afghanistan, he can do it tommorow. That's fine by me. No problem with that. BUT, he hasn't done that. He also hasn't done ANYTHING about the Russians paying $100,000 for a US corpse. You expect the United States to lay down for THAT. You're afraid we'll piss off the Russians? Why aren't YOU as an American pissed off? Our sons are being killed by these bastards. They haven't stopped as far as I know. So tonight, tomorrow, maybe next week an Afghanis will collect his bounty for killing an American. What will that piece of shit president say then? What will you say? Greg
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Post by Lomelis on Jul 5, 2020 2:44:04 GMT
Unlikely. I actually care about getting our troops out of harms way. Greg clearly does not. That divide can not become overcome. Hey Sparky, I was deployed to the AOR in the run up to the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq. In other words, I could have gotten killed just like anyone else. Somehow you have conflated with Trump failing to protect servicemen in his charge with withdrawing them from Afghanistan. THOSE are two separate issues. If Trump wants the troops out of Afghanistan, he can do it tommorow. That's fine by me. No problem with that. BUT, he hasn't done that. He also hasn't done ANYTHING about the Russians paying $100,000 for a US corpse. You expect the United States to lay down for THAT. You're afraid we'll piss off the Russians? Why aren't YOU as an American pissed off? Our sons are being killed by these bastards. They haven't stopped as far as I know. So tonight, tomorrow, maybe next week an Afghanis will collect his bounty for killing an American. What will that piece of shit president say then? What will you say? Greg And there Greg blows again. See Bama? He simply can't help himself. Greg, "I was in the chairforce for 50 years, God damnit! I served coffee in 10 different wars! One time I spilled it on me and I almost died! That's how dangerous it was! Now I collect disability for the rest of my life for this grievous wound that I suffered. Trump is a POS! He didn't protect the troops, he didn't have their backs, he - must do something-! Trump must do something that will put our troops in even more harms way! Because my pride or something like that demands it!~#@$#$# I care about the troops so much that I want Trump to put them in even more danger! DERP DERP DERP." Hi my name is Greg and I'm a retard.
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Post by bama beau on Jul 5, 2020 3:23:14 GMT
Hey Sparky, I was deployed to the AOR in the run up to the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq. In other words, I could have gotten killed just like anyone else. Somehow you have conflated with Trump failing to protect servicemen in his charge with withdrawing them from Afghanistan. THOSE are two separate issues. If Trump wants the troops out of Afghanistan, he can do it tommorow. That's fine by me. No problem with that. BUT, he hasn't done that. He also hasn't done ANYTHING about the Russians paying $100,000 for a US corpse. You expect the United States to lay down for THAT. You're afraid we'll piss off the Russians? Why aren't YOU as an American pissed off? Our sons are being killed by these bastards. They haven't stopped as far as I know. So tonight, tomorrow, maybe next week an Afghanis will collect his bounty for killing an American. What will that piece of shit president say then? What will you say? Greg And there Greg blows again. See Bama? He simply can't help himself. Greg, "I was in the chairforce for 50 years, God damnit! I served coffee in 10 different wars! One time I spilled it on me and I almost died! That's how dangerous it was! Now I collect disability for the rest of my life for this grievous wound that I suffered. Trump is a POS! He didn't protect the troops, he didn't have their backs, he - must do something-! Trump must do something that will put our troops in even more harms way! Because my pride or something like that demands it!~#@$#$# I care about the troops so much that I want Trump to put them in even more danger! DERP DERP DERP." Hi my name is Greg and I'm a retard. Is this just a Marine thing? Is that why I'm not getting it?
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Post by Lomelis on Jul 5, 2020 3:39:26 GMT
And there Greg blows again. See Bama? He simply can't help himself. Greg, "I was in the chairforce for 50 years, God damnit! I served coffee in 10 different wars! One time I spilled it on me and I almost died! That's how dangerous it was! Now I collect disability for the rest of my life for this grievous wound that I suffered. Trump is a POS! He didn't protect the troops, he didn't have their backs, he - must do something-! Trump must do something that will put our troops in even more harms way! Because my pride or something like that demands it!~#@$#$# I care about the troops so much that I want Trump to put them in even more danger! DERP DERP DERP." Hi my name is Greg and I'm a retard. Is this just a Marine thing? Is that why I'm not getting it? No. That's just me mocking Greg. You still aren't seeing how Greg on one hand is all butt hurt that Trump didn't protect them then in the very next instance demands that Trump do something that would put them in even more danger? You can't see the contradiction?
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Post by Greg55_99 on Jul 5, 2020 4:18:42 GMT
Is this just a Marine thing? Is that why I'm not getting it? No. That's just me mocking Greg. You still aren't seeing how Greg on one hand is all butt hurt that Trump didn't protect them then in the very next instance demands that Trump do something that would put them in even more danger? You can't see the contradiction? Put them in more danger how? Instead of getting shot in the head once, by your line of logic, they run the risk of getting shot in the head TWICE. You make NO sense at all. Greg
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Post by Greg55_99 on Jul 5, 2020 4:22:33 GMT
And there Greg blows again. See Bama? He simply can't help himself. Greg, "I was in the chairforce for 50 years, God damnit! I served coffee in 10 different wars! One time I spilled it on me and I almost died! That's how dangerous it was! Now I collect disability for the rest of my life for this grievous wound that I suffered. Trump is a POS! He didn't protect the troops, he didn't have their backs, he - must do something-! Trump must do something that will put our troops in even more harms way! Because my pride or something like that demands it!~#@$#$# I care about the troops so much that I want Trump to put them in even more danger! DERP DERP DERP." Hi my name is Greg and I'm a retard. Is this just a Marine thing? Is that why I'm not getting it? Me neither... Greg
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Post by bama beau on Jul 5, 2020 4:47:46 GMT
Is this just a Marine thing? Is that why I'm not getting it? No. That's just me mocking Greg. You still aren't seeing how Greg on one hand is all butt hurt that Trump didn't protect them then in the very next instance demands that Trump do something that would put them in even more danger? You can't see the contradiction? I don't see a contradiction as much as I see familiarity, context, perspective and opinion. On either side. Nothing wrong with that. Old soldiers never die. They post on internet fora*. *{Berggeist}
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Post by bama beau on Jul 5, 2020 4:53:15 GMT
Is this just a Marine thing? Is that why I'm not getting it? Me neither... Greg It must be his Marine background. And he's pretty smart for a Marine, which means that he probably didn't advance very far.
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