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Post by Lomelis on Jul 3, 2020 23:37:12 GMT
In a court of law. Where evidence was presented. We're not operating in a court of law here. And the Russians are going to deny any allegations, like they are right now. So, if you want to confront them and have support doing it, you need to have this locked down, because we don't have any goodwill left at the UN and NATO members are practicing hedging. But the leaks were never about that imo. The lives of US service members are in danger. Trump is the commander in chief. He is supposed to DO something. Whether the info is locked down or not, he is supposed to DO something. Whether call in the Russian ambassador or calling up Putin, he's supposed to DO something about it. He has done NOTHING.
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Post by bama beau on Jul 3, 2020 23:53:26 GMT
Their lives are in danger because they are in Afghanistan engaged in combat with the Taliban (for 19 years now) and ISIS-K. If the concern is their lives, then bring them home, because whatever mission we are there to achieve failed a long time ago. But we're not. The House is now planning to hold up any troop withdrawal, which was likely the aim of the leaks. But Trump must do something even though I don't really want Trump to do anything but he must do something so that I can criticize him because if he doesn't then I'm going to criticize him some more. I'm Greg and I don't give a shit about the troops. That's beneath you, Lo. Or at least it should be. |
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Post by Greg55_99 on Jul 4, 2020 0:18:29 GMT
The lives of US service members are in danger. Trump is the commander in chief. He is supposed to DO something. Whether the info is locked down or not, he is supposed to DO something. Whether call in the Russian ambassador or calling up Putin, he's supposed to DO something about it. He has done NOTHING.
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If Trump escalates tensions with Russia that means the troops don't leave Afghanistan you fucking dumbass. Holy shit you're dumb. Then you're O.K. with US servicemen being shot by Russian operatives as long as it gets them ALL out of Afghanistan. Yes? Greg |
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Post by Lomelis on Jul 4, 2020 0:28:03 GMT
If Trump escalates tensions with Russia that means the troops don't leave Afghanistan you fucking dumbass. Holy shit you're dumb. Then you're O.K. with US servicemen being shot by Russian operatives as long as it gets them ALL out of Afghanistan. Yes? Greg Think Greg. Just rub those 2 brain cells together just one time please. If the troops aren't there they can't get shot at. They are currently in a war zone which means they are going to continue to be shot at while they are there. The obvious conclusion should be to remove the troops from the war zone so that they don't get shot at anymore. This means that you don't escalate the situation which will cause increased political pressure to keep the troops in danger in order to counter and confront Russian influence and interference in the region. You are a moron so I don't really expect you to understand all that but that is about as simple as I can make it. |
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Post by Lomelis on Jul 4, 2020 0:34:59 GMT
But Trump must do something even though I don't really want Trump to do anything but he must do something so that I can criticize him because if he doesn't then I'm going to criticize him some more. I'm Greg and I don't give a shit about the troops. That's beneath you, Lo. Or at least it should be. Greg is willing to put the troops in danger in order to score cheap political points on Trump. 1.) He doesn't understand how this all works because he isn't very bright. 2.) He wants an incompetent President to challenge Russia who has a very competent leader. Once again this demonstrates that he isn't very bright. 3.) He says he supports the troops and wants to protect them but then is voicing an opinion that will put them in more danger. So he is either a liar, or just not very bright. Greg is really just a POS. He doesn't care about the troops, it's all partisan politics. As he has repeatedly stated over the years it's all about "getting his". |
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Post by Greg55_99 on Jul 4, 2020 0:36:23 GMT
Then you're O.K. with US servicemen being shot by Russian operatives as long as it gets them ALL out of Afghanistan. Yes? Greg Think Greg. Just rub those 2 brain cells together just one time please. If the troops aren't there they can't get shot at. They are currently in a war zone which means they are going to continue to be shot at while they are there. The obvious conclusion should be to remove the troops from the war zone so that they don't get shot at anymore. This means that you don't escalate the situation which will cause increased political pressure to keep the troops in danger in order to counter and confront Russian influence and interference in the region. You are a moron so I don't really expect you to understand all that but that is about as simple as I can make it. As a former Squadron Senior NCO, here is WHAT I understand. If my subordinates as well as myself are deployed to a combat zone, WHY I'm there is NOT open to discussion. Doing the job, completing the assigned mission with NO casualties is the primary thing on my mind. It's bad enough the Afghanis want to kill us, but now Russian operatives have joined the mix and goosed up the Afghanis to see that we all come home in body bags. NOW the worst thing of all is the Commander in chief not giving a shit. Not doing a goddamn thing. Greg |
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Post by bama beau on Jul 4, 2020 0:44:35 GMT
That's beneath you, Lo. Or at least it should be. Greg is willing to put the troops in danger in order to score cheap political points on Trump. 1.) He doesn't understand how this all works because he isn't very bright. 2.) He wants an incompetent President to challenge Russia who has a very competent leader. Once again this demonstrates that he isn't very bright. 3.) He says he supports the troops and wants to protect them but then is voicing an opinion that will put them in more danger. So he is either a liar, or just not very bright. Greg is really just a POS. He doesn't care about the troops, it's all partisan politics. As he has repeatedly stated over the years it's all about "getting his". Greg has both a sense of humor and a sense of honor. Before these last two posts of yours, I might have said the same of you. |
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Post by bama beau on Jul 4, 2020 0:46:55 GMT
Think Greg. Just rub those 2 brain cells together just one time please. If the troops aren't there they can't get shot at. They are currently in a war zone which means they are going to continue to be shot at while they are there. The obvious conclusion should be to remove the troops from the war zone so that they don't get shot at anymore. This means that you don't escalate the situation which will cause increased political pressure to keep the troops in danger in order to counter and confront Russian influence and interference in the region. You are a moron so I don't really expect you to understand all that but that is about as simple as I can make it. As a former Squadron Senior NCO, here is WHAT I understand. If my subordinates as well as myself are deployed to a combat zone, WHY I'm there is NOT open to discussion. Doing the job, completing the assigned mission with NO casualties is the primary thing on my mind. It's bad enough the Afghanis want to kill us, but now Russian operatives have joined the mix and goosed up the Afghanis to see that we all come home in body bags. NOW the worst thing of all is the Commander in chief not giving a shit. Not doing a goddamn thing. Greg Fuckin' A. |
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Post by Lomelis on Jul 4, 2020 0:51:21 GMT
Greg is willing to put the troops in danger in order to score cheap political points on Trump. 1.) He doesn't understand how this all works because he isn't very bright. 2.) He wants an incompetent President to challenge Russia who has a very competent leader. Once again this demonstrates that he isn't very bright. 3.) He says he supports the troops and wants to protect them but then is voicing an opinion that will put them in more danger. So he is either a liar, or just not very bright. Greg is really just a POS. He doesn't care about the troops, it's all partisan politics. As he has repeatedly stated over the years it's all about "getting his". Greg has both a sense of humor and a sense of honor. Before these last two posts of yours, I might have said the same of you. We must be using different definitions of the word "Honor". There is nothing honorable about "getting his" at the expense of everyone else. There is nothing honorable about wanting to put the troops in danger in order to score partisan political points against Trump. It's funny because you don't even deny that's what he is doing. |
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Post by Lomelis on Jul 4, 2020 0:53:37 GMT
Think Greg. Just rub those 2 brain cells together just one time please. If the troops aren't there they can't get shot at. They are currently in a war zone which means they are going to continue to be shot at while they are there. The obvious conclusion should be to remove the troops from the war zone so that they don't get shot at anymore. This means that you don't escalate the situation which will cause increased political pressure to keep the troops in danger in order to counter and confront Russian influence and interference in the region. You are a moron so I don't really expect you to understand all that but that is about as simple as I can make it. As a former Squadron Senior NCO, here is WHAT I understand. If my subordinates as well as myself are deployed to a combat zone, WHY I'm there is NOT open to discussion. Doing the job, completing the assigned mission with NO casualties is the primary thing on my mind. It's bad enough the Afghanis want to kill us, but now Russian operatives have joined the mix and goosed up the Afghanis to see that we all come home in body bags. NOW the worst thing of all is the Commander in chief not giving a shit. Not doing a goddamn thing. Greg As a civilian that cares about the welfare of our troops you should be calling on Trump to remove the troops as rapidly as possible. That -would- be doing something. Instead you want to put them in even more danger. Good job, Greg. Good job. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2020 0:56:17 GMT
How long until we call Mueller and Schiff for another fake investigation into a big ole nothing burger.
On a related note, who here can make a good butter burger?
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Post by bama beau on Jul 4, 2020 0:57:22 GMT
Greg has both a sense of humor and a sense of honor. Before these last two posts of yours, I might have said the same of you. We must be using different definitions of the word "Honor". There is nothing honorable about "getting his" at the expense of everyone else. There is nothing honorable about wanting to put the troops in danger in order to score partisan political points against Trump. It's funny because you don't even deny that's what he is doing. I think I know him well enough to know when he is opining, poking or prodding tongue in cheek. I do know that he is a 20+ year Army vet, with time in theater. His honor is not in question here. |
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Post by Greg55_99 on Jul 4, 2020 1:00:36 GMT
As a former Squadron Senior NCO, here is WHAT I understand. If my subordinates as well as myself are deployed to a combat zone, WHY I'm there is NOT open to discussion. Doing the job, completing the assigned mission with NO casualties is the primary thing on my mind. It's bad enough the Afghanis want to kill us, but now Russian operatives have joined the mix and goosed up the Afghanis to see that we all come home in body bags. NOW the worst thing of all is the Commander in chief not giving a shit. Not doing a goddamn thing. Greg As a civilian that cares about the welfare of our troops you should be calling on Trump to remove the troops as rapidly as possible. That -would- be doing something. Instead you want to put them in even more danger. Good job, Greg. Good job. If you don't want US servicemen in Afghanistan, that's fine. Quite noble. And I can tell you THEY don't want to be there either, but, they ARE there until further notice. Doing an assigned mission. What they don't need is the Commander in chief selling out their lives for $100,000 per corpse. Greg |
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Post by Lomelis on Jul 4, 2020 1:06:27 GMT
We must be using different definitions of the word "Honor". There is nothing honorable about "getting his" at the expense of everyone else. There is nothing honorable about wanting to put the troops in danger in order to score partisan political points against Trump. It's funny because you don't even deny that's what he is doing. I think I know him well enough to know when he is opining, poking or prodding tongue in cheek. I do know that he is a 20+ year Army vet, with time in theater. His honor is not in question here. He has never been joking about "getting his". He was 20+ year chair force. The easiest and laziest branch of the military. Time in theater for the typical airman consists of drinking coffee, getting fatter, and collecting large pay checks. My 4 year stint in the Marines was by far more difficult than his whole career, and I didn't even really do anything or go anywhere. He has absolutely no clue what the average soldier or Marine has to go through while in those countries. He has absolutely no clue the danger that he wants to put them in. If he truly cared he would be calling on Trump to remove the troops, now. Not the exact opposite, goading Russia into more direct action. |
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Post by Lomelis on Jul 4, 2020 1:08:30 GMT
As a civilian that cares about the welfare of our troops you should be calling on Trump to remove the troops as rapidly as possible. That -would- be doing something. Instead you want to put them in even more danger. Good job, Greg. Good job. If you don't want US servicemen in Afghanistan, that's fine. Quite noble. And I can tell you THEY don't want to be there either, but, they ARE there until further notice. Doing an assigned mission. What they don't need is the Commander in chief selling out their lives for $100,000 per corpse. Greg What they don't need is a Commander in Chief poking the bear which is exactly what you are demanding that Trump do. |
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Post by Greg55_99 on Jul 4, 2020 1:11:14 GMT
If you don't want US servicemen in Afghanistan, that's fine. Quite noble. And I can tell you THEY don't want to be there either, but, they ARE there until further notice. Doing an assigned mission. What they don't need is the Commander in chief selling out their lives for $100,000 per corpse. Greg What they don't need is a Commander in Chief poking the bear which is exactly what you are demanding that Trump do. Protecting the lives of his subordinates is NOT poking the bear. Allowing Russians to put targets on their backs is treason. Greg |
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Post by Lomelis on Jul 4, 2020 1:14:27 GMT
What they don't need is a Commander in Chief poking the bear which is exactly what you are demanding that Trump do. Protecting the lives of his subordinates is NOT poking the bear. Allowing Russians to put targets on their backs is treason. Greg If he escalates things with Russia he is not protecting his subordinates Greg. Not sure why you are having trouble with such a basic fact. He would be putting them in even MORE DANGER. |
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Post by Greg55_99 on Jul 4, 2020 1:15:19 GMT
I think I know him well enough to know when he is opining, poking or prodding tongue in cheek. I do know that he is a 20+ year Army vet, with time in theater. His honor is not in question here. He has never been joking about "getting his". He was 20+ year chair force. The easiest and laziest branch of the military. Time in theater for the typical airman consists of drinking coffee, getting fatter, and collecting large pay checks. My 4 year stint in the Marines was by far more difficult than his whole career, and I didn't even really do anything or go anywhere. He has absolutely no clue what the average soldier or Marine has to go through while in those countries. He has absolutely no clue the danger that he wants to put them in. If he truly cared he would be calling on Trump to remove the troops, now. Not the exact opposite, goading Russia into more direct action. That would be 30 years in the United States Air Force. I think it's fair to say I had far more responsibilities assigned to me than you ever did. I also think it's fair to say I understood bringing my people back from a war zone far better than you as well. When the Commander in chief sells them out, he should be charged with treason. Greg |
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Post by Greg55_99 on Jul 4, 2020 1:19:04 GMT
Protecting the lives of his subordinates is NOT poking the bear. Allowing Russians to put targets on their backs is treason. Greg If he escalates things with Russia he is not protecting his subordinates Greg. Not sure why you are having trouble with such a basic fact. He would be putting them in even MORE DANGER. Then, in your mind, he should say and do NOTHING and let the Russians continue to kill our people just so we DON'T piss them off. What do you tell the parents or spouse of a dead US servicemember? "We regret his death but we didn't want to piss off the Russians". Greg |
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Post by Lomelis on Jul 4, 2020 1:21:22 GMT
He has never been joking about "getting his". He was 20+ year chair force. The easiest and laziest branch of the military. Time in theater for the typical airman consists of drinking coffee, getting fatter, and collecting large pay checks. My 4 year stint in the Marines was by far more difficult than his whole career, and I didn't even really do anything or go anywhere. He has absolutely no clue what the average soldier or Marine has to go through while in those countries. He has absolutely no clue the danger that he wants to put them in. If he truly cared he would be calling on Trump to remove the troops, now. Not the exact opposite, goading Russia into more direct action. That would be 30 years in the United States Air Force. I think it's fair to say I had far more responsibilities assigned to me than you ever did. I also think it's fair to say I understood bringing my people back from a war zone far better than you as well. When the Commander in chief sells them out, he should be charged with treason. Greg My bad 30 years chair force. And yes I'm sure being responsible for the best coffee around could be stressful. When people like yourself don't understand that they actually want to put more troops in danger it becomes disappointing that you ever lasted so long in the service and were in any sort of leadership position at all. It's a good thing you were air force, your reasoning abilities lead me to believe that had you actually lead troops in battle they would have died. |
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