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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 23:52:43 GMT
KStU doubles down on his fight for the right to infect people with a deadly disease.
It is pretty telling when you have to start with a personal attack. You have nothing. Like not wearing a seat belt is a personal risk an individual should be allowed to take, going out in public or not is also a personal risk that people should be allowed to take without government oversight. |
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Post by Greg55_99 on Jun 28, 2020 23:52:51 GMT
Doubtful.
Unlike you, I always wear a seat belt, whether as a driver or a passenger.
But then I have a highly intelligent brain to protect.
You, not so much.
It isn't about whether or not wearing the seat belt is good. It is about whether the government should have the power to determine what risks you take. I feel I should have the right to Roger roundly any woman I find attractive. Anytime and anywhere. Whether she wants to or not.. Those laws preventing that impinge on my freedom. Greg |
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Post by jasmine on Jun 28, 2020 23:53:03 GMT
Can the flu be deadly? Have you ever wandered out of the house with the flu? Ever? Then you’ve also expressed this right. Because that’s the world. You can get a shot for the flu. There's currently no cure for COVID-19. It's best not to get it. It's effects on you are a crapshoot. Greg If the cdc report is true that millions more of Americans have contracted the virus than originally thought, that would mean the death rate is half of one percent. If I’m wrong, please correct me. |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Jun 28, 2020 23:53:11 GMT
We’re the George Floyd protestors spreading deadly diseases?
Did you ever denounce them for their selfishness?
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Post by rabbitreborn on Jun 28, 2020 23:54:26 GMT
Can the flu be deadly? Have you ever wandered out of the house with the flu? Ever? Then you’ve also expressed this right. Because that’s the world. You can get a shot for the flu. There's currently no cure for COVID-19. It's best not to get it. It's effects on you are a crapshoot. Greg The flu shot is a rough guess. There are many different strains of flu. They guess, sometimes right and sometimes wrong, which one will be most prevalent. So the “flu shot” is not a cure for the flu and in fact doesn’t prevent you from getting every flu. |
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Post by Mercy for All on Jun 28, 2020 23:54:40 GMT
Of course I do. But we have to draw the line somewhere. If the government can ban any behavior based on some abject conclusion that it has bad consequences, then they have full control over our lives. The price of freedom is failure. I would rather pay that price that than the price of tyranny. And you draw the line at the temporary imposition of masks? That's an expression of "tyranny"? |
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Post by Mercy for All on Jun 28, 2020 23:55:16 GMT
Flattening the curve by shutting everything down and crashing the economy is a display of irrational fear. Recognizing that the giving those same people that did that or support that even more power on a national level would be even more of a disaster is not irrational. Not if it's temporary. |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Jun 28, 2020 23:55:55 GMT
Can the flu be deadly? Have you ever wandered out of the house with the flu? Ever? Then you’ve also expressed this right. Because that’s the world.
Wrong!
Lol. Nice. Hey. Were the Floyd protestors selfishly killing others? Did you call the cops, Karen? |
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Post by Greg55_99 on Jun 28, 2020 23:56:57 GMT
You can get a shot for the flu. There's currently no cure for COVID-19. It's best not to get it. It's effects on you are a crapshoot. Greg The flu shot is a rough guess. There are many different strains of flu. They guess, sometimes right and sometimes wrong, which one will be most prevalent. So the “flu shot” is not a cure for the flu and in fact doesn’t prevent you from getting every flu. But you agree, it is a preventative measure from getting the flu. Yes? Like.... masks Greg |
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Post by Odysseus on Jun 28, 2020 23:57:10 GMT
KStU doubles down on his fight for the right to infect people with a deadly disease.
It is pretty telling when you have to start with a personal attack. You have nothing. Like not wearing a seat belt is a personal risk an individual should be allowed to take, going out in public or not is also a personal risk that people should be allowed to take without government oversight. Doubly wrong!
If you are pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic of Covid-19, then going out in public without a face mask it putting other people at risk.
It could be considered assault with a deadly weapon.
Congrats.
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Post by rabbitreborn on Jun 28, 2020 23:57:56 GMT
Flattening the curve by shutting everything down and crashing the economy is a display of irrational fear. Recognizing that the giving those same people that did that or support that even more power on a national level would be even more of a disaster is not irrational. Not if it's temporary. Because all business owners are super rich, right? It doesn’t harm entrepreneurship to just shut things down? And guess what? Governments still demanded property taxes on commercial property at the same rate as always, despite shutting down businesses. Ask me how I know. |
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Post by jasmine on Jun 28, 2020 23:58:30 GMT
Flattening the curve by shutting everything down and crashing the economy is a display of irrational fear. Recognizing that the giving those same people that did that or support that even more power on a national level would be even more of a disaster is not irrational. Not if it's temporary. Would it be, though? |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Jun 29, 2020 0:00:10 GMT
The flu shot is a rough guess. There are many different strains of flu. They guess, sometimes right and sometimes wrong, which one will be most prevalent. So the “flu shot” is not a cure for the flu and in fact doesn’t prevent you from getting every flu. But you agree, it is a preventative measure from getting the flu. Yes? Like.... masks Greg The mask is a preventative measure for spreading the flu as well. I’m sure you and all the other scared Karens always wore masks during flu season before, right? |
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Post by Lomelis on Jun 29, 2020 0:00:13 GMT
Can the flu be deadly? Have you ever wandered out of the house with the flu? Ever? Then you’ve also expressed this right. Because that’s the world. You can get a shot for the flu. There's currently no cure for COVID-19. It's best not to get it. It's effects on you are a crapshoot. Greg Greg. No it's effects on you are not a crapshoot. If you are old with significant health issues it is definitely more dangerous for you, just like practically anything is for people in that age group with health issues. If you are younger than that and are healthy the most likely outcome is mild flu to cold like symptoms. That's it. |
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Post by Odysseus on Jun 29, 2020 0:00:34 GMT
You can get a shot for the flu. There's currently no cure for COVID-19. It's best not to get it. It's effects on you are a crapshoot. Greg The flu shot is a rough guess. There are many different strains of flu. They guess, sometimes right and sometimes wrong, which one will be most prevalent. So the “flu shot” is not a cure for the flu and in fact doesn’t prevent you from getting every flu. Actually there is some evidence that even if the yearly flu shot doesn't cover ALL the strains out and about, it can still confer some protection against those strains it doesn't explicitly cover.
My own KStU* experience is that when I was in my 40's one year I neglected to get a flu shot. I wound up getting a bad case and was flat on my back in bed for days. Since then I have always gotten a flu shot. Yes, sometimes I get an URI but it's never been as bad as that time.
*KStU means anecdotal
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 0:01:29 GMT
Can the flu be deadly? Have you ever wandered out of the house with the flu? Ever? Then you’ve also expressed this right. Because that’s the world.
Wrong!
How about a cold? Colds can be deadly. Have you ever served read meat? It is a carcinogen according to California. Or maybe tap water, barbecue, salty fish, eggs, alcohol, and the list goes on, they are all carcinogens. If you have ever served any of that and more to a friend, family member or acquaintance you have potentially killed them with cancer. Where does it end? What choices can the government make for us and what can they not? Do they get to tell us what to do in every aspect of our life? Or is it just nonconvential sexual preferences that are off the table? By your logic, homosexual and heterosexual sex should be banned because you might give someone an STD. Or driving a car should be banned because you might hit an old lady in a wheel chair that rolled down her driveway when her daughter forgot to set the brake before she grabbed the pepperoni, sausage, and anchovi pizza from the fifth row seat of their 1997 Chevrolet Suburban that happens to be white with a black front quarter panel from an accident with a 2007 Santa Fe that was rented by a friend of OJ Simpson. |
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Post by Lomelis on Jun 29, 2020 0:01:38 GMT
Can the flu be deadly? Have you ever wandered out of the house with the flu? Ever? Then you’ve also expressed this right. Because that’s the world.
Wrong!
You've never wandered out of the house with the flu? Ever? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 0:03:02 GMT
It isn't about whether or not wearing the seat belt is good. It is about whether the government should have the power to determine what risks you take. I feel I should have the right to Roger roundly any woman I find attractive. Anytime and anywhere. Whether she wants to or not.. Those laws preventing that impinge on my freedom. Greg Are you Joe Biden? In any case, I'm sure you can see the difference between a right that directly affects only the individual and a an action that directly impacts another. |
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Post by Odysseus on Jun 29, 2020 0:03:41 GMT
But you agree, it is a preventative measure from getting the flu. Yes? Like.... masks Greg The mask is a preventative measure for spreading the flu as well. I’m sure you and all the other scared Karens always wore masks during flu season before, right?
Please document the lethality of the flu vs. Covid-19, including details on various age groups.
Then please document the preventative measures for each, including vaccines.
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Post by Odysseus on Jun 29, 2020 0:04:51 GMT
It isn't about whether or not wearing the seat belt is good. It is about whether the government should have the power to determine what risks you take. I feel I should have the right to Roger roundly any woman I find attractive. Anytime and anywhere. Whether she wants to or not.. Those laws preventing that impinge on my freedom. Greg
Without "protection", I presume.
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