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Post by rabbitreborn on Jul 1, 2020 8:34:39 GMT
You mean that we can't even agree that in a pandemic, the number of cases matter? I would think that in a pandemic the major point is the number of cases.
Anybody who argues differently is not being intellectually honest.
Confirmed cases? Why would that be the major point with a new virus? If cases jumped by over 1000% over the next month, but testing also had jumped by 1000% and deaths dropped by 70%, what might be the most important bit of information there? I mean, if you’re being intellectually honest. |
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Post by Odysseus on Jul 1, 2020 8:51:51 GMT
I would think that in a pandemic the major point is the number of cases.
Anybody who argues differently is not being intellectually honest.
Confirmed cases? Why would that be the major point with a new virus? If cases jumped by over 1000% over the next month, but testing also had jumped by 1000% and deaths dropped by 70%, what might be the most important bit of information there? I mean, if you’re being intellectually honest.
Well, of course because Trump fucked this up from the start, testing hasn't been as universal as it should have been.
Still, the number of cases is key to pandemic.
You might try looking up the definition of pandemic disease.
But since you may not care to be precise, I'll do it for you: "prevalent over a whole country or the world".
Now, boys and girls, what does that tell us? The key is the SPREAD of the disease. Not necessarily the deaths, although obviously the OUTCOME of infection is extremely important. It just doesn't define a pandemic.
You're welcome. I can educate you at any time.
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Post by rabbitreborn on Jul 1, 2020 8:58:35 GMT
Confirmed cases? Why would that be the major point with a new virus? If cases jumped by over 1000% over the next month, but testing also had jumped by 1000% and deaths dropped by 70%, what might be the most important bit of information there? I mean, if you’re being intellectually honest.
Well, of course because Trump fucked this up from the start, testing hasn't been as universal as it should have been.
Still, the number of cases is key to pandemic.
You might try looking up the definition of pandemic disease.
But since you may not care to be precise, I'll do it for you: "prevalent over a whole country or the world".
Now, boys and girls, what does that tell us? The key is the SPREAD of the disease. Not necessarily the deaths, although obviously the OUTCOME of infection is extremely important. It just doesn't define a pandemic.
You're welcome. I can educate you at any time.
When people talk about the Black Plague or SARS or the Spanish Flu or even just influenza from year to year, do you think they believe the number of cases is more important? Or the number of deaths? Every action that every government is taking is based on projected deaths, not projected cases. And they built these models with faulty assumptions about the mortality rate of Covid, which is still very much unknown but dropping day by day from the initial claims of 3.4%. Also, do you think “confirmed cases” even closely approximates the actual number of infections?? How does the flu infect 60 million Americans every year but Covid, the scariest virus in generations and far more infectious, only has infected two and a half million? So does “confirmed cases” even measure the “SPREAD”? |
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Post by Odysseus on Jul 1, 2020 9:23:27 GMT
Well, of course because Trump fucked this up from the start, testing hasn't been as universal as it should have been.
Still, the number of cases is key to pandemic.
You might try looking up the definition of pandemic disease.
But since you may not care to be precise, I'll do it for you: "prevalent over a whole country or the world".
Now, boys and girls, what does that tell us? The key is the SPREAD of the disease. Not necessarily the deaths, although obviously the OUTCOME of infection is extremely important. It just doesn't define a pandemic.
You're welcome. I can educate you at any time.
When people talk about the Black Plague or SARS or the Spanish Flu or even just influenza from year to year, do you think they believe the number of cases is more important? Or the number of deaths? Every action that every government is taking is based on projected deaths, not projected cases. And they built these models with faulty assumptions about the mortality rate of Covid, which is still very much unknown but dropping day by day from the initial claims of 3.4%. Also, do you think “confirmed cases” even closely approximates the actual number of infections?? How does the flu infect 60 million Americans every year but Covid, the scariest virus in generations and far more infectious, only has infected two and a half million? So does “confirmed cases” even measure the “SPREAD”? Again, the definition of pandemic is the prevalence of cases in a country or the world.
It is not the number of deaths.
Yes, the mortality rate is important, but again, a pandemic is not primarily defined by the mortality rate.
And as you point out, we do not really know what the final mortality rate of the Covid-19 pandemic will be. It's too new.
And, since there are growing reports of people not dying but having lingering serious adverse effects from the virus, perhaps you should focus on that aspect as well as on death?
You do seem to want to discount the seriousness of the covid-19 pandemic. Why you want to do this, I don't know. It just seems so wrong to me.
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