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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2020 22:56:56 GMT
www.cbsnews.com/news/joe-biden-masks-public-executive-powers-covid-19-coronavirus/"The one thing we do know is that these masks make a gigantic difference. I would insist that everybody in public be wearing that masks," Biden continued. "I would do everything possible to make it required that people have to wear masks in public." The mark of a true leader is knowing the line between good governance and freedom. Biden is not a good leader.
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Post by Fiddler on Jun 27, 2020 23:09:11 GMT
Biden is not a good leader.
Perhaps ... but a leader nonetheless. Much more than can be said of Trumplethinskin ..
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Post by Odysseus on Jun 27, 2020 23:40:54 GMT
Biden is not a good leader.
Perhaps ... but a leader nonetheless. Much more than can be said of Trumplethinskin ..
That's rich.
KStU pontificating on who is or is not a good leader.
LOL.
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Post by Greg55_99 on Jun 28, 2020 1:04:14 GMT
www.cbsnews.com/news/joe-biden-masks-public-executive-powers-covid-19-coronavirus/"The one thing we do know is that these masks make a gigantic difference. I would insist that everybody in public be wearing that masks," Biden continued. "I would do everything possible to make it required that people have to wear masks in public." The mark of a true leader is knowing the line between good governance and freedom. Biden is not a good leader. I'm sure you fasten your seatbelt every time you get into a car. Right. Greg |
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Post by Odysseus on Jun 28, 2020 1:20:57 GMT
www.cbsnews.com/news/joe-biden-masks-public-executive-powers-covid-19-coronavirus/"The one thing we do know is that these masks make a gigantic difference. I would insist that everybody in public be wearing that masks," Biden continued. "I would do everything possible to make it required that people have to wear masks in public." The mark of a true leader is knowing the line between good governance and freedom. Biden is not a good leader. I'm sure you fasten your seatbelt every time you get into a car. Right. Greg
Perhaps he's not required to:
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Post by Lomelis on Jun 28, 2020 13:47:50 GMT
Biden is not a good leader.
Perhaps ... but a leader nonetheless. Much more than can be said of Trumplethinskin ..
Mao, Stalin, Hitler....were all leaders as well. Very effective leaders. Perhaps there is more to it than simply being a leader? |
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Post by Fiddler on Jun 28, 2020 14:22:31 GMT
Perhaps ... but a leader nonetheless. Much more than can be said of Trumplethinskin ..
Mao, Stalin, Hitler....were all leaders as well. Very effective leaders. Perhaps there is more to it than simply being a leader?
"Leader" Trump is first and foremost a divider. He has stated a number of times that the likes and encourages chaos. Even a casual look at his administration will confirm that. Trump's presidency has by any measure been detrimental to America and Americans.
President "Not Trump" if nothing else will not ENCOURAGE conflict.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 15:51:46 GMT
www.cbsnews.com/news/joe-biden-masks-public-executive-powers-covid-19-coronavirus/"The one thing we do know is that these masks make a gigantic difference. I would insist that everybody in public be wearing that masks," Biden continued. "I would do everything possible to make it required that people have to wear masks in public." The mark of a true leader is knowing the line between good governance and freedom. Biden is not a good leader. I'm sure you fasten your seatbelt every time you get into a car. Right. Greg Of course I do. But we have to draw the line somewhere. If the government can ban any behavior based on some abject conclusion that it has bad consequences, then they have full control over our lives. The price of freedom is failure. I would rather pay that price that than the price of tyranny. |
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Post by Greg55_99 on Jun 28, 2020 15:55:21 GMT
I'm sure you fasten your seatbelt every time you get into a car. Right. Greg Of course I do. But we have to draw the line somewhere. If the government can ban any behavior based on some abject conclusion that it has bad consequences, then they have full control over our lives. The price of freedom is failure. I would rather pay that price that than the price of tyranny. You consider wearing a mask so as NOT to spread infections to other people an infringement on your freedom? Greg |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 15:58:40 GMT
Of course I do. But we have to draw the line somewhere. If the government can ban any behavior based on some abject conclusion that it has bad consequences, then they have full control over our lives. The price of freedom is failure. I would rather pay that price that than the price of tyranny. You consider wearing a mask so as NOT to spread infections to other people an infringement on your freedom? Greg Yep. |
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Post by Greg55_99 on Jun 28, 2020 16:07:11 GMT
You consider wearing a mask so as NOT to spread infections to other people an infringement on your freedom? Greg Yep. Well I'd like to walk around buck assed nekkid but there's laws that prohibit that. Is my freedom being infringed? I think NOT. Greg |
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Post by Lomelis on Jun 28, 2020 16:33:38 GMT
Mao, Stalin, Hitler....were all leaders as well. Very effective leaders. Perhaps there is more to it than simply being a leader?
"Leader" Trump is first and foremost a divider. He has stated a number of times that the likes and encourages chaos. Even a casual look at his administration will confirm that. Trump's presidency has by any measure been detrimental to America and Americans.
President "Not Trump" if nothing else will not ENCOURAGE conflict.
I more concerned that a leftist is going to become President and pursue a national lock down with martial law. |
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Post by bama beau on Jun 28, 2020 16:36:13 GMT
"Leader" Trump is first and foremost a divider. He has stated a number of times that the likes and encourages chaos. Even a casual look at his administration will confirm that. Trump's presidency has by any measure been detrimental to America and Americans.
President "Not Trump" if nothing else will not ENCOURAGE conflict.
I more concerned that a leftist is going to become President and pursue a national lock down with martial law. Another example of irrational fear running rampant. |
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Post by Lomelis on Jun 28, 2020 16:36:18 GMT
Well I'd like to walk around buck assed nekkid but there's laws that prohibit that. Is my freedom being infringed? I think NOT. Greg The masks thing isn't a law. These are emergency declarations. No laws have been passed, no discussion, no democracy. It's called tyranny. |
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Post by bama beau on Jun 28, 2020 16:40:26 GMT
Well I'd like to walk around buck assed nekkid but there's laws that prohibit that. Is my freedom being infringed? I think NOT. Greg The masks thing isn't a law. These are emergency declarations. No laws have been passed, no discussion, no democracy. It's called tyranny. Being required to wear a flimsy quasi-medical mask during a pandemic is tyranny? You might want to adjust your tyranny threshold sensor. |
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Post by Lomelis on Jun 28, 2020 16:41:57 GMT
I more concerned that a leftist is going to become President and pursue a national lock down with martial law. Another example of irrational fear running rampant. How so? Most of you fully supported the lock downs, fully supported the use of law enforcement, even curfews and what not. You fully backed the actions of Governor Newsom and that witch from Michigan. Ya'll supported Cuomo. All of them. No democracy, just straight up emergency declarations. How in the world is it irrational to assume that the left, which is all about centralized control, would not back the same policies at the national level? It seems silly to assume they wouldn't. |
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Post by Lomelis on Jun 28, 2020 16:48:50 GMT
The masks thing isn't a law. These are emergency declarations. No laws have been passed, no discussion, no democracy. It's called tyranny. Being required to wear a flimsy quasi-medical mask during a pandemic is tyranny? You might want to adjust your tyranny threshold sensor. You can be fined, businesses shut down, and hauled off to jail for not wearing that flimsy piece of cloth during a "pandemic" that is basically harmless to the vast majority of people. You are giving up all your rights over a big ass lie. Do these emergency declarations really need to continue? Why aren't there real discussions going on, laws being passed, how about some debate? Ya that takes time and maybe you won't get what you want...but that seems to be the problem isn't it? If they ended the "emergencies" tomorrow do you think there would be that big of an issue? Everyone is just going to start dying in the streets or something? What do you think would happen? |
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Post by bama beau on Jun 28, 2020 16:52:34 GMT
Those responses positively shriek with the fear that you are projecting into others.
I know you can't see that, but that is what it is.
Irrational fear in the face of real issues over which you feel powerless.
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Post by Lomelis on Jun 28, 2020 17:19:50 GMT
Those responses positively shriek with the fear that you are projecting into others. I know you can't see that, but that is what it is. Irrational fear in the face of real issues over which you feel powerless. Hell ya there is fear there and it isn't irrational. These assholes completely closed down society and crashed the economy. There is no denying that. Millions of people had their rights violated and were classified as nonessential. They had no right to go out and make a living to support themselves or their families. Nonessential, as in not needed. It's fucking disgusting. All over a disease that is mostly harmless to the vast majority of people that it infects. There is no emergency. There is no need for these emergency declarations. You've been had. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 17:22:17 GMT
I more concerned that a leftist is going to become President and pursue a national lock down with martial law. Another example of irrational fear running rampant. With the exception of explicitly using the term martial law, that is exactly what Biden said. |
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