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Post by freonbale on Nov 9, 2020 16:34:58 GMT
And next, I want to see national mandates for COVID response. If that means everyone wears a mask, then so be it. If we all follow best practices, we can have this beat in a few months.
What do you mean "have this beat"? I already answered this. And now I am hearing that Biden is going to meet with all the governors, and get a national consistent response. This is exactly what should happen. Freon
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Post by petep on Nov 9, 2020 16:43:16 GMT
I agree on the national consistent response. We are all exactly in the same situation. New you’re city is exactly like Missoula Montana.
I’m astounded each summer when Michigan keeps their lakes open to swimmers when it’s been proven tberebare shark sightings off cape cod and the smart people on the cape close their beach.
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Post by rabbitreborn on Nov 9, 2020 18:07:43 GMT
What do you mean when you say that masks and social distancing can "beat" the virus?
You can lead a moron to facts, but you can't make him/her/it understand them.
I'm asking you to explain a pretty basic part of your position. I'm asking for clarification. I'm not asking you to link me to other people. I'm discussing this with you and freon. What do you mean when you say that masks and social distancing can defeat the virus?
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Post by rabbitreborn on Nov 9, 2020 18:12:10 GMT
I’m trying to get to the bottom of what you mean by “beat the virus”. I asked the same of Ody in other threads. What does “beat” mean? This is when Ody starts calling me names. But these are just basic questions. You’re saying “beat”. What does that mean? Beat means manage the infection rate to a point that makes it non-threatening to the general populace.
Ebola has not been eradicated, but the incidences are so low, it effectively doesn't exist in this country. Same can be said for many major diseases.
Unfortunately, that is the best we will get until a true vaccine is developed, and even then, there will be idiots who refuse to take it. Freon
If you "beat" the virus by managing "the infection rate to a point that makes it non-threatening to the general populace", would the mandated national policies then expire? Or would they continue on? And if they expire and the virus makes a resurgence, do you go back to the mandated policies of lockdown, social distancing, and masks? And is this virus truly "threatening to the general populace" right now? Officially we've had 10 million cases. Conservative estimates place the actual infections at 5 times that, with the higher end estimates being 10 times that number. 50 to 100 million people. The vast majority experience no symptoms or very minor symptoms. So is this really threatening to the general populace?
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Post by Odysseus on Nov 9, 2020 18:16:21 GMT
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Post by rabbitreborn on Nov 9, 2020 18:26:32 GMT
That's from March 18th. That motherfucker is talking about ventillators. He's telling me that all of the sudden, everybody I know will be sick. Well, hipster, it's 8 months later you dipshit. I've likely known dozens of people with the virus who didn't even know they had it. Lol. What do you mean when you say that masks and social distancing can "beat" the virus?
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Post by Odysseus on Nov 9, 2020 18:30:27 GMT
Wabbit: "Old and sick people do not deserve to live"
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Post by rabbitreborn on Nov 9, 2020 18:45:03 GMT
Wabbit: "Old and sick people do not deserve to live" Ody: "Poor people around the globe should starve and die because I'm scared of a virus."
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Post by Odysseus on Nov 9, 2020 18:46:42 GMT
Wabbit: "Let's cheer as hundreds of thousands of Americans die unnecessarily"...
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Post by rabbitreborn on Nov 9, 2020 18:53:43 GMT
Wabbit: "Let's cheer as hundreds of thousands of Americans die unnecessarily"... Lol. Joe Biden, with his sharp mind, would have just stopped a highly communicable disease. This is a fantasy world you're living in.
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Post by thor on Nov 9, 2020 18:54:36 GMT
What do you mean when you say that masks and social distancing can "beat" the virus?
You can lead a moron to facts, but you can't make him/her/it understand them.
Huey, Dewey and Louie's entire self-worth are tied to Trump. They will deny facts until the very end. Then, like Germans fleeing the funeral pyre in Berlin in 1945, they will stop only long enough to burn their MAGA hats and start screaming 'I didn't know!'.
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Post by rabbitreborn on Nov 9, 2020 19:05:41 GMT
You can lead a moron to facts, but you can't make him/her/it understand them.
Huey, Dewey and Louie's entire self-worth are tied to Trump. They will deny facts until the very end. Then, like Germans fleeing the funeral pyre in Berlin in 1945, they will stop only long enough to burn their MAGA hats and start screaming 'I didn't know!'. Has Trump even been mentioned in this thread? Lol. You have dipshits talking about covid posing some threat to the “preservation of the human race”. Others talking about how masks are going to “beat” the global pandemic, and you’re blathering on about some stupid shit. What a dumbfuck.
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Post by Odysseus on Nov 9, 2020 19:07:46 GMT
And yet Buggery Bunny has been whining long and hard about how measures to combat Covid amount to murder.
Silly Wabbit.
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Post by rabbitreborn on Nov 9, 2020 19:15:29 GMT
And yet Buggery Bunny has been whining long and hard about how measures to combat Covid amount to murder. Silly Wabbit. Locking people in their homes against their will and preventing them from working to provide for their families is the absolute definition of tyranny. You want to slide past that in preparation for supporting the Dementia Messiah, but it's the obvious truth. If you're prone to suffering or dying from the virus, then stay inside. Quarantine. If you're scared to death of what the media has made you believe, then stay in your fucking hole. I'm not giving up years of my life for your fear, you lunatics. And I am definitely not making my kids live their lives inside of a few thousand square feet of home for months or years at a time.
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Post by Odysseus on Nov 9, 2020 19:17:36 GMT
Murderer.
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Post by freonbale on Nov 9, 2020 20:13:37 GMT
Beat means manage the infection rate to a point that makes it non-threatening to the general populace.
Ebola has not been eradicated, but the incidences are so low, it effectively doesn't exist in this country. Same can be said for many major diseases.
Unfortunately, that is the best we will get until a true vaccine is developed, and even then, there will be idiots who refuse to take it. Freon
If you "beat" the virus by managing "the infection rate to a point that makes it non-threatening to the general populace", would the mandated national policies then expire? Or would they continue on? And if they expire and the virus makes a resurgence, do you go back to the mandated policies of lockdown, social distancing, and masks? And is this virus truly "threatening to the general populace" right now? Officially we've had 10 million cases. Conservative estimates place the actual infections at 5 times that, with the higher end estimates being 10 times that number. 50 to 100 million people. The vast majority experience no symptoms or very minor symptoms. So is this really threatening to the general populace? Yes, of course the mandated policies would expire. And yes, if there is a resurgence, they would come back. It's like saying if we were being bombed, would we be required to hide in a government shelter. And if the bombing occurred in the future, would we again be required to be in the shelter. It is baffling how you can ask these questions. The virus is very contagious, that is a known fact. If left unrestricted, millions would die. That is also a fact. What part of this confuses you? Freon
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Post by Odysseus on Nov 9, 2020 20:17:11 GMT
If you "beat" the virus by managing "the infection rate to a point that makes it non-threatening to the general populace", would the mandated national policies then expire? Or would they continue on? And if they expire and the virus makes a resurgence, do you go back to the mandated policies of lockdown, social distancing, and masks? And is this virus truly "threatening to the general populace" right now? Officially we've had 10 million cases. Conservative estimates place the actual infections at 5 times that, with the higher end estimates being 10 times that number. 50 to 100 million people. The vast majority experience no symptoms or very minor symptoms. So is this really threatening to the general populace? Yes, of course the mandated policies would expire. And yes, if there is a resurgence, they would come back. It's like saying if we were being bombed, would we be required to hide in a government shelter. And if the bombing occurred in the future, would we again be required to be in the shelter. It is baffling how you can ask these questions. The virus is very contagious, that is a known fact. If left unrestricted, millions would die. That is also a fact. What part of this confuses you? Freon
The only logical explanation here is that Buggery Bunny wants sick and old people to die from Covid-19, before their time.
It would not surprise me if he were to celebrate their deaths.
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Post by freonbale on Nov 9, 2020 20:17:57 GMT
And yet Buggery Bunny has been whining long and hard about how measures to combat Covid amount to murder. Silly Wabbit. Locking people in their homes against their will and preventing them from working to provide for their families is the absolute definition of tyranny. You want to slide past that in preparation for supporting the Dementia Messiah, but it's the obvious truth. If you're prone to suffering or dying from the virus, then stay inside. Quarantine. If you're scared to death of what the media has made you believe, then stay in your fucking hole. I'm not giving up years of my life for your fear, you lunatics. And I am definitely not making my kids live their lives inside of a few thousand square feet of home for months or years at a time. That you talk about this very real pandemic as a media-derived fiction is bordering on imbecilic to me. It's like we are being bombed, and you are arguing not to go to a shelter because only a few houses out of the millions are actually being hit by the bombs. I can see that only if you personally get affected by this disease, is it going to have an impact on you. Why get vaccinated for anything? The schools should let measles and polio come back, because hey, not that many people have either. Freon
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Post by freonbale on Nov 9, 2020 20:18:34 GMT
Yes, of course the mandated policies would expire. And yes, if there is a resurgence, they would come back. It's like saying if we were being bombed, would we be required to hide in a government shelter. And if the bombing occurred in the future, would we again be required to be in the shelter. It is baffling how you can ask these questions. The virus is very contagious, that is a known fact. If left unrestricted, millions would die. That is also a fact. What part of this confuses you? Freon
The only logical explanation here is that Buggery Bunny wants sick and old people to die from Covid-19, before their time.
It would not surprise me if he were to celebrate their deaths.
The hilarious irony of that is that most of them are conservatives. Freon
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Post by rabbitreborn on Nov 9, 2020 20:50:08 GMT
Locking people in their homes against their will and preventing them from working to provide for their families is the absolute definition of tyranny. You want to slide past that in preparation for supporting the Dementia Messiah, but it's the obvious truth. If you're prone to suffering or dying from the virus, then stay inside. Quarantine. If you're scared to death of what the media has made you believe, then stay in your fucking hole. I'm not giving up years of my life for your fear, you lunatics. And I am definitely not making my kids live their lives inside of a few thousand square feet of home for months or years at a time. That you talk about this very real pandemic as a media-derived fiction is bordering on imbecilic to me. It's like we are being bombed, and you are arguing not to go to a shelter because only a few houses out of the millions are actually being hit by the bombs. I can see that only if you personally get affected by this disease, is it going to have an impact on you. Why get vaccinated for anything? The schools should let measles and polio come back, because hey, not that many people have either. Freon I've taken a bunch of shit from you anti-science cretins when comparing covid to the flu. But in this thread you've compared covid to ebola, polio, measles, and bombing. Because you are all hypocrites. Your tactics have been laid bare. Your bombs kill indiscriminately. This virus barely impacts most people. Protect the vulnerable. Quarantine if you're scared. The rest of us have life to live and civilization to maintain.
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