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Post by DaveJavu on Oct 15, 2024 16:11:19 GMT
We'll eagerly await these fresh "citations and quotes" since you provided nothing credible in that original thread. That's a nice bespoke reality you've created for yourself. Yeah, it's amusing how pale con's posts are always based on the premise that he won the previous argument. He's sort of OCD that way... |
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Post by Paleocon on Oct 15, 2024 16:24:40 GMT
We'll eagerly await these fresh "citations and quotes" since you provided nothing credible in that original thread. That's a nice bespoke reality you've created for yourself. And that's a beautifully executed projection on your part. If your argument hadn't been so weak, I wouldn't have taken it apart so easily. Your ideas were so cartoonish, we half expect to see this as a precursor to your posts:
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Post by rabbitreborn on Oct 15, 2024 16:59:25 GMT
The same could be said in reverse. And the specific choice of the worst regime in modern history is deliberate, even if you’re not willing to accept it. Could use plenty of incompetent and negligent regimes. But the choice is the Nazis. Fear mongering. I'm not merely talking about generalized incompetence and negligence, but rather weaponized rhetoric about an internal enemy. What these narratives about an enemy within do to social cohesion - the way they roll the dice with civilization- is a specific kind of political negligence and other than perhaps fascist Italy, or Chavez and Maduro in Venezuela, I don't know of another example of an illiberal regime coming to power with these methods. I have no doubt other examples exist, but they aren't readily at hand in my brain, where as the history of the "stabbed in the back" myth and weaponized anti-semitism is "top of mind." Like the "Basket of Deplorables"? Or the KKK and Nazi references? "Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our Republic." - Joe Biden "MAGA Republicans do not respect the Constitution. They do not believe in the rule of the law. They do not recognize the will of the people." - Joe Biden “It is just unquestionable at this point that man cannot see public office again. He is not only unfit, he is destructive to our democracy, and he has to be eliminated.” Dan Goldman, D-NY “The rhetoric you hear from the Republican Party is shameful and disgraceful for Latinos. And you know, when you see ‘Latinos for Trump,’ to me it is like seeing ‘Jews for Hitler,’ almost, you know?” - Vincente Gonzalez (D-TX) “Adolf Hitler was elected chancellor of Germany. And he went about the business of discrediting institutions to the point that people bought into it. Nobody would have believed it now. But swastikas hung in churches throughout Germany. We had better be very careful. This is the same type of propaganda that we heard in the 1920s and World War I against Jews.” - James Clyburn (D-SC) “Allowing Trump to hold an event at MSG is equivalent to the infamous Nazis rally at Madison Square Garden on February 20, 1939.” - Brad Hoylman Sigal (D-State Senate-NY) There was the stage that resembled the Othala Rune at CPAC, remember? Remember the articles and then the threads? www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/mar/01/cpac-2021-stage-design-nazi-sign-odal-othala-rune-hyatt-hotels-hate-symbol-abhorrentwww.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2021/03/02/cpac-2021-stage-design-public-high-five-white-supremacy-column/6883518002/libertynewsforum.boards.net/thread/4054/department-makelibertynewsforum.boards.net/thread/4125/maga-cpacs-ode-symbologyFearmongering is politics now. You can pretend it's otherwise, but I think plenty of evidence shows that that's just bias. |
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Post by thor on Oct 15, 2024 20:23:50 GMT
Bless your heart, it's good to see that you're still as deluded as before. You were duped by the Yankee propaganda and exposed as an easily manipulated novice on the subject, calling into question your credibility on all other subjects.
You leftists have been screaming that the sky is falling for the entire time that Trump has been in politics. Terror and fear are weapons of the left, not the right.
That's a rich fantasy life you live. The whole board saw you get beat up by roughly a half-dozen people. It's like Pickett's Charge, on an endless loop. Paleo hasn't figured out a 'break' statement yet. |
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Post by RinsePrius on Oct 16, 2024 14:59:36 GMT
I'm not merely talking about generalized incompetence and negligence, but rather weaponized rhetoric about an internal enemy. What these narratives about an enemy within do to social cohesion - the way they roll the dice with civilization- is a specific kind of political negligence and other than perhaps fascist Italy, or Chavez and Maduro in Venezuela, I don't know of another example of an illiberal regime coming to power with these methods. I have no doubt other examples exist, but they aren't readily at hand in my brain, where as the history of the "stabbed in the back" myth and weaponized anti-semitism is "top of mind." Like the "Basket of Deplorables"? Or the KKK and Nazi references? "Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our Republic." - Joe Biden "MAGA Republicans do not respect the Constitution. They do not believe in the rule of the law. They do not recognize the will of the people." - Joe Biden “It is just unquestionable at this point that man cannot see public office again. He is not only unfit, he is destructive to our democracy, and he has to be eliminated.” Dan Goldman, D-NY “The rhetoric you hear from the Republican Party is shameful and disgraceful for Latinos. And you know, when you see ‘Latinos for Trump,’ to me it is like seeing ‘Jews for Hitler,’ almost, you know?” - Vincente Gonzalez (D-TX) “Adolf Hitler was elected chancellor of Germany. And he went about the business of discrediting institutions to the point that people bought into it. Nobody would have believed it now. But swastikas hung in churches throughout Germany. We had better be very careful. This is the same type of propaganda that we heard in the 1920s and World War I against Jews.” - James Clyburn (D-SC) “Allowing Trump to hold an event at MSG is equivalent to the infamous Nazis rally at Madison Square Garden on February 20, 1939.” - Brad Hoylman Sigal (D-State Senate-NY) There was the stage that resembled the Othala Rune at CPAC, remember? Remember the articles and then the threads? www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/mar/01/cpac-2021-stage-design-nazi-sign-odal-othala-rune-hyatt-hotels-hate-symbol-abhorrentwww.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2021/03/02/cpac-2021-stage-design-public-high-five-white-supremacy-column/6883518002/libertynewsforum.boards.net/thread/4054/department-makelibertynewsforum.boards.net/thread/4125/maga-cpacs-ode-symbologyFearmongering is politics now. You can pretend it's otherwise, but I think plenty of evidence shows that that's just bias. It's not fear-mongering if MAGA is factually guilty of what is being laid at their feet. On the other side of the ledger, turns out hurricane steering is a myth, egg prices are governed by the law of supply and demand, and FEMA is not denying aid to republicans. Also an elite group of pedophiles are not controlling everything, the earth isn't flat, and Jewish billionaires are not trying to poison the blood of the nation. You would treat all of these fears the same, fear is fear, am I right? I would say no, fear of authoritarianism or the loss of the peaceful transfer of power in 2024, is very different from fearing the government centrally planning hurricanes. We are running head long into the tolerance paradox. You demand tolerance of intolerance under the rubric of being tolerant. Swap tolerance for fear-mongering. We have to tolerate fear-mongering because to push back is to engage in fear-mongering about fear-mongering. I'm good on that perspective. It holds no power over me. |
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Post by Paleocon on Oct 16, 2024 16:45:53 GMT
That's a rich fantasy life you live. The whole board saw you get beat up by roughly a half-dozen people. It's like Pickett's Charge, on an endless loop. Paleo hasn't figured out a 'break' statement yet. On the subject of the War Between the States, you'll always lose, and it doesn't matter if you have a half dozen behind you or not.
It takes facts to win on that subject and neither you nor TL have anything that hasn't been refuted and debunked.
Anytime you want to give it a try, boy, I'll be here.
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Post by Fiddler on Oct 16, 2024 17:00:19 GMT
MAGA tried to repeat the Reichstag putsch with their own narrative about treacherous countrymen stabbing them in the back. And it almost worked. You would retell this story as some sort of set up, which is an insane inversion of reality. Way to hop from one lost cause to another! You guys fear monger about everything from eggs to hurricanes. There's no comparison. the old Confederate Monument thread..
Thanks for reminding everyone.. That was perhaps the most glorious logical, factual methodical beat-down of an unreconstructed wanna-be slaver.. you .. in the history of forums..
You pouted for weeks after that one .. 
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Post by Paleocon on Oct 16, 2024 17:10:41 GMT
the old Confederate Monument thread..
Thanks for reminding everyone.. That was perhaps the most glorious logical, factual methodical beat-down of an unreconstructed wanna-be slaver.. you .. in the history of forums..
You pouted for weeks after that one ..
I was still there when you and your perverted peers cowardly abandoned the field to me after you lost the debate. Pretending otherwise makes you a laughing stock. |
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Post by RinsePrius on Oct 16, 2024 17:30:49 GMT
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Post by Paleocon on Oct 16, 2024 17:49:56 GMT
Wow, thanks. I had forgotten that I had destroyed each of you in such detail. Even Queshank and Maestro were utter failures and they are titans compared to you.
Devolving to the level of animals that use the "you're a racist" smear means you lost, by the way.
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Post by RinsePrius on Oct 16, 2024 17:56:22 GMT
I wouldn't change a single character in that thread and agree with everyone that you have no response to the points made, other than to deny, deny, deny.
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Post by Paleocon on Oct 16, 2024 18:03:51 GMT
I wouldn't change a single character in that thread and agree with everyone that you have no response to the points made, other than to deny, deny, deny. So, you like being a loser?
I refuted, corrected and destroyed every argument that you and your cohorts attempted. And it was easy. Thanks for the memories, loser.
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Post by RinsePrius on Oct 16, 2024 18:26:34 GMT
I wouldn't change a single character in that thread and agree with everyone that you have no response to the points made, other than to deny, deny, deny. So, you like being a loser?
I refuted, corrected and destroyed every argument that you and your cohorts attempted. And it was easy. Thanks for the memories, loser.
You're funny. An entire board kicked your ass six ways from Sunday and you had nothing to say in response except "I win." There's not a single response of yours that is on topic in that thread. Not a one that brings up an interesting point, a counter-argument, or anything that might be considered evidentiary. You simply gave up and called it a win. |
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Post by Paleocon on Oct 16, 2024 18:52:29 GMT
So, you like being a loser?
I refuted, corrected and destroyed every argument that you and your cohorts attempted. And it was easy. Thanks for the memories, loser.
You're funny. An entire board kicked your ass six ways from Sunday and you had nothing to say in response except "I win." There's not a single response of yours that is on topic in that thread. Not a one that brings up an interesting point, a counter-argument, or anything that might be considered evidentiary. You simply gave up and called it a win. Sorry, but you have it backwards as usual. You lost because you utilized "presentism" as your perverted filter in looking at those monuments. Only a loser gets triggered enough by a few words in a speech or a handful of words in a Declaration of Causes and make the illogical leap that you and your cohorts did in that thread.
There were almost a thousand Confederate monuments in the South and not a single one says or depicts anything that supports the lie that they were erected to trumpet and defend white supremacy. It's analogous to you claiming that the sky is white simply because you found a tiny wisp of cloud on that deep blue background. My job was easy....I made you look at the actual BLUE sky! And the actual monuments rather than a passing wisp of rhetoric.
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Post by RinsePrius on Oct 16, 2024 18:58:59 GMT
You're funny. An entire board kicked your ass six ways from Sunday and you had nothing to say in response except "I win." There's not a single response of yours that is on topic in that thread. Not a one that brings up an interesting point, a counter-argument, or anything that might be considered evidentiary. You simply gave up and called it a win. Sorry, but you have it backwards as usual. You lost because you utilized "presentism" as your perverted filter in looking at those monuments. Only a loser gets triggered enough by a few words in a speech or a handful of words in a Declaration of Causes and make the illogical leap that you and your cohorts did in that thread.
There were almost a thousand Confederate monuments in the South and not a single one says or depicts anything that supports the lie that they were erected to trumpet and defend white supremacy. It's analogous to you claiming that the sky is white simply because you found a tiny wisp of cloud on that deep blue background. My job was easy....I made you look at the actual BLUE sky! And the actual monuments rather than a passing wisp of rhetoric.
I saw someone who had no evidence for their views and simply ignored the evidence (which was legion) that ran counter. You didn't merely have a hard job in responding, you had a job so hard you *couldn't* respond. So you didn't. |
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Post by RinsePrius on Oct 16, 2024 18:59:32 GMT
And you've been fuming about it ever since, pacing & shouting at anyone walking by who might listen.
Sore loser status unlocked.
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Post by Fiddler on Oct 16, 2024 19:34:25 GMT
Thanks for reminding everyone.. That was perhaps the most glorious logical, factual methodical beat-down of an unreconstructed wanna-be slaver.. you .. in the history of forums..
You pouted for weeks after that one ..
I was still there when you and your perverted peers cowardly abandoned the field to me after you lost the debate. Pretending otherwise makes you a laughing stock. LMAO.. You idiot.. .. You were left in a puddle bruised and bleeding on the field .. You were whining like the Black Knight in Holy Grail ..
You were down to the point that you were regurgitating the same debunked bullshit over and over .. You thought you could control the narrative by ignoring direct quotes from multiple Confederate leaders.. by ignoring official Confederate documents.. by ignoring dedications made by Confederate supporters at the opening of those memorials..
By the end of the thread you were pasted simply being a laughing stock and were full on pitied as the vile piece of shit you are . ..
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Post by Paleocon on Oct 16, 2024 20:23:41 GMT
I saw someone who had no evidence for their views and simply ignored the evidence (which was legion) that ran counter. You didn't merely have a hard job in responding, you had a job so hard you *couldn't* respond. So you didn't. I had a thousand pieces of evidence against the minuscule verbal scraps that you could produce. I was dousing every match you lit with a fire hose, leaving you all wet. And you've been fuming about it ever since, pacing & shouting at anyone walking by who might listen. Sore loser status unlocked. Right after that thread, you left the forum entirely. Running away was the act of the real loser. I never left the ring, loser. |
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Post by RinsePrius on Oct 16, 2024 20:29:30 GMT
I saw someone who had no evidence for their views and simply ignored the evidence (which was legion) that ran counter. You didn't merely have a hard job in responding, you had a job so hard you *couldn't* respond. So you didn't. I had a thousand pieces of evidence against the minuscule verbal scraps that you could produce. I was dousing every match you lit with a fire hose, leaving you all wet. And you've been fuming about it ever since, pacing & shouting at anyone walking by who might listen. Sore loser status unlocked. Right after that thread, you left the forum entirely. Running away was the act of the real loser. I never left the ring, loser. You should have pointed to all that evidence, then. The world needs to know. Would have been better then just waiving your hands and whining! I left the forum in 2022, the monuments thread was started in 2020. You have a real, real, real big problem with basic facts. |
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Post by Paleocon on Oct 16, 2024 20:48:04 GMT
I was still there when you and your perverted peers cowardly abandoned the field to me after you lost the debate. Pretending otherwise makes you a laughing stock. LMAO.. You idiot.. .. You were left in a puddle bruised and bleeding on the field .. You were whining like the Black Knight in Holy Grail ..
You were down to the point that you were regurgitating the same debunked bullshit over and over .. You thought you could control the narrative by ignoring direct quotes from multiple Confederate leaders.. by ignoring official Confederate documents.. by ignoring dedications made by Confederate supporters at the opening of those memorials..
By the end of the thread you were pasted simply being a laughing stock and were full on pitied as the vile piece of shit you are . ..
Spoken like the victim of a truly brutal ass kicking. As usual, you were little more than the water boy for the losing team. I don't ignore any of those quotes, documents or dedications...I just destroy their importance by putting them in historical context. In doing so, they shrivel up to to raisin size, like your balls. |
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