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Post by Paleocon on Oct 14, 2024 2:12:09 GMT
In this case, your accusation is a confession and you didn't even have the self awareness to realize it. Fear based narratives about trump are ALL THAT YOU LEFTISTS HAVE! Your side has gone insane with fearmongering and hatred against your very own Emmanuel Goldstein. Your side's censorship and judicial/governmental weaponization is based on lies about Trump and his perceived "treachery". The left's lies about January 6th are little different than the Reichstag fire excuse that the Nazis used to consolidate power.
Yours is a monumental self-own, all without you knowing that you were doing so.
MAGA tried to repeat the Reichstag putsch with their own narrative about treacherous countrymen stabbing them in the back. And it almost worked. You would retell this story as some sort of set up, which is an insane inversion of reality. Way to hop from one lost cause to another! You guys fear monger about everything from eggs to hurricanes. There's no comparison. "Lost cause"? You're still smarting from the brutal take down that you suffered on the old Confederate Monument thread, aren't' you?
The fearmongering based on the left's lies about January 6th far exceed everything that you imagine Trump to have done. Do a little research on FEMA and Hurricane Helene and you'll see that we are truth-telling, not fearmongering. Eggs are a symptom of Biden's/Harris' poor handling of the economy, and once again, pointing out those facts about inflation is facing reality, something you wouldn't understand (that Confederate Monument debacle of yours proved that fact).
Often, a "lost cause" is still a just and moral cause, but justice and morality are not liberal characteristics.
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Post by phillip on Oct 14, 2024 8:42:03 GMT
Right-wingers have the most prominent television channel outlet, pretty much a stranglehold on talk radio, and one of the largest social media platform [Twitter/X] in the world owned by a guy who fangirled for Trump just a few days ago like a total dweeb and yet are still crying about the EVIL MEDIAZ. LOL.
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Post by petep on Oct 14, 2024 11:48:20 GMT
Right-wingers have the most prominent television channel outlet, pretty much a stranglehold on talk radio, and one of the largest social media platform [Twitter/X] in the world owned by a guy who fangirled for Trump just a few days ago like a total dweeb and yet are still crying about the EVIL MEDIAZ. LOL. Wouldn’t the correct way to look at this would be fox - clearly conservative - vs all left media added up. Fox seems to beat them all one on one But collectively you’d have to add up abc, nbc, cbs, cnn, msnbc etc. www.adweek.com/tvnewser/cable-news-ratings-september-2024/
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Post by thor on Oct 14, 2024 13:03:22 GMT
MAGA tried to repeat the Reichstag putsch with their own narrative about treacherous countrymen stabbing them in the back. And it almost worked. You would retell this story as some sort of set up, which is an insane inversion of reality. Way to hop from one lost cause to another! You guys fear monger about everything from eggs to hurricanes. There's no comparison. "Lost cause"? You're still smarting from the brutal take down that you suffered on the old Confederate Monument thread, aren't' you?
The fearmongering based on the left's lies about January 6th far exceed everything that you imagine Trump to have done. Do a little research on FEMA and Hurricane Helene and you'll see that we are truth-telling, not fearmongering. Eggs are a symptom of Biden's/Harris' poor handling of the economy, and once again, pointing out those facts about inflation is facing reality, something you wouldn't understand (that Confederate Monument debacle of yours proved that fact).
Often, a "lost cause" is still a just and moral cause, but justice and morality are not liberal characteristics.
Your Lost Cause bullshit gets destroyed every time you bring it up, Cuck.
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Post by RinsePrius on Oct 14, 2024 13:26:09 GMT
MAGA tried to repeat the Reichstag putsch with their own narrative about treacherous countrymen stabbing them in the back. And it almost worked. You would retell this story as some sort of set up, which is an insane inversion of reality. Way to hop from one lost cause to another! You guys fear monger about everything from eggs to hurricanes. There's no comparison. "Lost cause"? You're still smarting from the brutal take down that you suffered on the old Confederate Monument thread, aren't' you?
The fearmongering based on the left's lies about January 6th far exceed everything that you imagine Trump to have done. Do a little research on FEMA and Hurricane Helene and you'll see that we are truth-telling, not fearmongering. Eggs are a symptom of Biden's/Harris' poor handling of the economy, and once again, pointing out those facts about inflation is facing reality, something you wouldn't understand (that Confederate Monument debacle of yours proved that fact).
Often, a "lost cause" is still a just and moral cause, but justice and morality are not liberal characteristics.
That thread was so much fun (and brutal for you) that you're still salty about it and want a rematch. Yeah, I'll repeat what I said. No one fear-mongers like MAGA.
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Post by Paleocon on Oct 15, 2024 11:53:32 GMT
"Lost cause"? You're still smarting from the brutal take down that you suffered on the old Confederate Monument thread, aren't' you?
The fearmongering based on the left's lies about January 6th far exceed everything that you imagine Trump to have done. Do a little research on FEMA and Hurricane Helene and you'll see that we are truth-telling, not fearmongering. Eggs are a symptom of Biden's/Harris' poor handling of the economy, and once again, pointing out those facts about inflation is facing reality, something you wouldn't understand (that Confederate Monument debacle of yours proved that fact).
Often, a "lost cause" is still a just and moral cause, but justice and morality are not liberal characteristics.
Your Lost Cause bullshit gets destroyed every time you bring it up, Cuck. There's not an ass that I haven't kicked when that particular subject comes up. Especially yours, twink.
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Post by Paleocon on Oct 15, 2024 12:09:08 GMT
"Lost cause"? You're still smarting from the brutal take down that you suffered on the old Confederate Monument thread, aren't' you?
The fearmongering based on the left's lies about January 6th far exceed everything that you imagine Trump to have done. Do a little research on FEMA and Hurricane Helene and you'll see that we are truth-telling, not fearmongering. Eggs are a symptom of Biden's/Harris' poor handling of the economy, and once again, pointing out those facts about inflation is facing reality, something you wouldn't understand (that Confederate Monument debacle of yours proved that fact).
Often, a "lost cause" is still a just and moral cause, but justice and morality are not liberal characteristics.
That thread was so much fun (and brutal for you) that you're still salty about it and want a rematch. Yeah, I'll repeat what I said. No one fear-mongers like MAGA. Bless your heart, it's good to see that you're still as deluded as before. You were duped by the Yankee propaganda and exposed as an easily manipulated novice on the subject, calling into question your credibility on all other subjects.
You leftists have been screaming that the sky is falling for the entire time that Trump has been in politics. Terror and fear are weapons of the left, not the right.
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Post by RinsePrius on Oct 15, 2024 12:13:04 GMT
That thread was so much fun (and brutal for you) that you're still salty about it and want a rematch. Yeah, I'll repeat what I said. No one fear-mongers like MAGA. Bless your heart, it's good to see that you're still as deluded as before. You were duped by the Yankee propaganda and exposed as an easily manipulated novice on the subject, calling into question your credibility on all other subjects.
You leftists have been screaming that the sky is falling for the entire time that Trump has been in politics. Terror and fear are weapons of the left, not the right.
That's a rich fantasy life you live. The whole board saw you get beat up by roughly a half-dozen people.
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Post by rabbitreborn on Oct 15, 2024 12:18:14 GMT
Then why the Nazi references and comparisons lol? Wouldn’t it be better then to have a national divorce? And I don't reduce that danger to gas chambers. There are many boring and pedestrian ways to wreck a country that don't involve that kind of systematic evil. But then why the long Nazi comparison or "parallel"? If you don't mean the evil shit, then why use Nazi "parallels"? For fear-mongering, right? Which is exactly what you're accusing the other side of performing. You see that, right? THE OTHER SIDE IS JUST LIKE THE NAZIS! THEY USE FEAR TO CONTROL AND MOTIVATE THEIR MOVEMENT! THEY MUST BE STOPPED BECAUSE IT'S JUST LIKE THE NAZIS!
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Post by RinsePrius on Oct 15, 2024 12:44:14 GMT
And I don't reduce that danger to gas chambers. There are many boring and pedestrian ways to wreck a country that don't involve that kind of systematic evil. But then why the long Nazi comparison or "parallel"? If you don't mean the evil shit, then why use Nazi "parallels"? Just because I don't believe systematic evil is a given doesn't mean I don't see a great danger involved in using these kinds of weaponized narratives. Remember I am including boring and pedestrian forms of social ruin. Social ruin is still social ruin. And why shouldn't we point out the parallel? It's not exactly normal. If the Democrats gave the GOP such a gift, they would use it, best believe it!
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Post by Paleocon on Oct 15, 2024 12:48:39 GMT
Bless your heart, it's good to see that you're still as deluded as before. You were duped by the Yankee propaganda and exposed as an easily manipulated novice on the subject, calling into question your credibility on all other subjects.
You leftists have been screaming that the sky is falling for the entire time that Trump has been in politics. Terror and fear are weapons of the left, not the right.
That's a rich fantasy life you live. The whole board saw you get beat up by roughly a half-dozen people. Quantity doesn't matter. You and your five cohorts failed on that thread, not because of anything that I said, but because every single Confederate monument refuted your argument (not a single one had anything on its granite surface supporting your fiction). I was just the messenger, conveying news of your defeat. Thread's still up if you want to pick up where we left off.
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Post by RinsePrius on Oct 15, 2024 12:56:40 GMT
That's a rich fantasy life you live. The whole board saw you get beat up by roughly a half-dozen people. Quantity doesn't matter. You and your five cohorts failed on that thread, not because of anything that I said, but because every single Confederate monument refuted your argument (not a single one had anything on its granite surface supporting your fiction). I was just the messenger, conveying news of your defeat. Thread's still up if you want to pick up where we left off. I wouldn't change a character of any post and would be content to let the whole world read it. I consider it one of my best contributions to this forum in the decade plus I have been here. Proud doesn't even begin to describe the feeling. In fact, if I wasn't so lazy I'd turn it into a book.
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Post by rabbitreborn on Oct 15, 2024 13:05:13 GMT
But then why the long Nazi comparison or "parallel"? If you don't mean the evil shit, then why use Nazi "parallels"? Just because I don't believe systematic evil is a given doesn't mean I don't see a great danger involved in using these kinds of weaponized narratives. Remember I am including boring and pedestrian forms of social ruin. Social ruin is still social ruin. And why shouldn't we point out the parallel? It's not exactly normal. If the Democrats gave the GOP such a gift, they would use it, best believe it! But the Nazi references aren’t meant to motivate through fear? Which is your critique of what MAGA is doing? Just so happens it’s the most evil regime in modern history? I don’t know how to make this more clear.
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Post by RinsePrius on Oct 15, 2024 13:15:43 GMT
Just because I don't believe systematic evil is a given doesn't mean I don't see a great danger involved in using these kinds of weaponized narratives. Remember I am including boring and pedestrian forms of social ruin. Social ruin is still social ruin. And why shouldn't we point out the parallel? It's not exactly normal. If the Democrats gave the GOP such a gift, they would use it, best believe it! But the Nazi references aren’t meant to motivate through fear? Which is your critique of what MAGA is doing? Just so happens it’s the most evil regime in modern history? I don’t know how to make this more clear. I don't follow your logic. The argument is that the left shouldn't point out when NAZI elements enter politics because they will be "motivating through fear" and are basically acting like NAZI's themselves? Nah, that's not going to work for me. Not every example of someone pointing to a danger is reducible to fear-mongering, sometimes it is just prudence. Your argument doesn't allow for that.
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Post by rabbitreborn on Oct 15, 2024 13:26:00 GMT
But the Nazi references aren’t meant to motivate through fear? Which is your critique of what MAGA is doing? Just so happens it’s the most evil regime in modern history? I don’t know how to make this more clear. I don't follow your logic. The argument is that the left shouldn't point out when NAZI elements enter politics because they will be "motivating through fear" and are basically acting like NAZI's themselves? Nah, that's not going to work for me. Not every example of someone pointing to a danger is reducible to fear-mongering, sometimes it is just prudence. Your argument doesn't allow for that. The same could be said in reverse. And the specific choice of the worst regime in modern history is deliberate, even if you’re not willing to accept it. Could use plenty of incompetent and negligent regimes. But the choice is the Nazis. Fear mongering.
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Post by RinsePrius on Oct 15, 2024 14:41:05 GMT
I don't follow your logic. The argument is that the left shouldn't point out when NAZI elements enter politics because they will be "motivating through fear" and are basically acting like NAZI's themselves? Nah, that's not going to work for me. Not every example of someone pointing to a danger is reducible to fear-mongering, sometimes it is just prudence. Your argument doesn't allow for that. The same could be said in reverse. And the specific choice of the worst regime in modern history is deliberate, even if you’re not willing to accept it. Could use plenty of incompetent and negligent regimes. But the choice is the Nazis. Fear mongering. I'm not merely talking about generalized incompetence and negligence, but rather weaponized rhetoric about an internal enemy. What these narratives about an enemy within do to social cohesion - the way they roll the dice with civilization- is a specific kind of political negligence and other than perhaps fascist Italy, or Chavez and Maduro in Venezuela, I don't know of another example of an illiberal regime coming to power with these methods. I have no doubt other examples exist, but they aren't readily at hand in my brain, where as the history of the "stabbed in the back" myth and weaponized anti-semitism is "top of mind."
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Post by Paleocon on Oct 15, 2024 14:48:49 GMT
Quantity doesn't matter. You and your five cohorts failed on that thread, not because of anything that I said, but because every single Confederate monument refuted your argument (not a single one had anything on its granite surface supporting your fiction). I was just the messenger, conveying news of your defeat. Thread's still up if you want to pick up where we left off. I wouldn't change a character of any post and would be content to let the whole world read it. I consider it one of my best contributions to this forum in the decade plus I have been here. Proud doesn't even begin to describe the feeling. In fact, if I wasn't so lazy I'd turn it into a book. Your book would be a fine addition to the fiction section of any bookstore.
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Post by RinsePrius on Oct 15, 2024 14:56:50 GMT
I wouldn't change a character of any post and would be content to let the whole world read it. I consider it one of my best contributions to this forum in the decade plus I have been here. Proud doesn't even begin to describe the feeling. In fact, if I wasn't so lazy I'd turn it into a book. Your book would be a fine addition to the fiction section of any bookstore. You could petition for it to be moved into the fiction section but ultimately it would be a "lost cause" because the citations and quotes therein speak for themselves and reduce your position to mere hand-waiving.
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Post by Paleocon on Oct 15, 2024 15:25:00 GMT
Your book would be a fine addition to the fiction section of any bookstore. You could petition for it to be moved into the fiction section but ultimately it would be a "lost cause" because the citations and quotes therein speak for themselves and reduce your position to mere hand-waiving. We'll eagerly await these fresh "citations and quotes" since you provided nothing credible in that original thread. Peer review of anything that you post on this subject would and should elicit laughter. Perhaps your book would land in the comedy section of the bookstore, but most likely it would be on the dollar table too quickly to need a section.
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Post by RinsePrius on Oct 15, 2024 15:32:18 GMT
You could petition for it to be moved into the fiction section but ultimately it would be a "lost cause" because the citations and quotes therein speak for themselves and reduce your position to mere hand-waiving. We'll eagerly await these fresh "citations and quotes" since you provided nothing credible in that original thread. That's a nice bespoke reality you've created for yourself.
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