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Post by Mercy for All on May 13, 2024 21:50:10 GMT
Says freonbale, who refuses to justify an assertion about Jesus as Messiah, because his opinion is "what he was always taught." I don't even understand what you just accused me of, lol. Instead of speaking Christian, can you please speak English. Freon What you always accuse me of—only holding opinions that “I was taught.” That’s your response when it comes to the Messiah question, no? What you believe is what you were taught to believe, but look it up on Google because you haven’t memorized the passages? Something like that? |
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Post by freonbale on May 13, 2024 22:00:11 GMT
I stand by my statement. You can look up web sites to your heart's content, but you will remain naive. Freon Are you shocked? Why would I be shocked? Freon |
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Post by freonbale on May 13, 2024 22:22:07 GMT
I don't even understand what you just accused me of, lol. Instead of speaking Christian, can you please speak English. Freon What you always accuse me of—only holding opinions that “I was taught.” That’s your response when it comes to the Messiah question, no? What you believe is what you were taught to believe, but look it up on Google because you haven’t memorized the passages? Something like that? Why do you let someone like me bother you so much, Mercy? Freon |
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Post by Mercy for All on May 13, 2024 23:00:46 GMT
Why would I be shocked? Freon "I would be shocked if that was the view of other scientists." |
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Post by Mercy for All on May 13, 2024 23:01:15 GMT
What you always accuse me of—only holding opinions that “I was taught.” That’s your response when it comes to the Messiah question, no? What you believe is what you were taught to believe, but look it up on Google because you haven’t memorized the passages? Something like that? Why do you let someone like me bother you so much, Mercy? Freon You don't bother me. But...nice deflection. |
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Post by freonbale on May 13, 2024 23:37:56 GMT
Why would I be shocked? Freon "I would be shocked if that was the view of other scientists." Yes, so why would I be shocked, lol? You think you can just look up a web site, and that represents how the scientific community views that topic? That's naive on top of naive. You do not possess the knowledge or skill to be able to find the answer you are looking for. You are demonstrating the Dunning-Krueger effect. You don't know how much you don't know. If you did, you would be humbled. Freon |
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Post by freonbale on May 13, 2024 23:40:09 GMT
Why do you let someone like me bother you so much, Mercy? Freon You don't bother me. But...nice deflection. Ohhh, I didn't realize I was talking to your pridefulness. But then, I'm always talking to your pridefulness. Isn't that a sin, you sinning, sinner? Go ahead. Resist me. Freon |
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Post by Mercy for All on May 13, 2024 23:48:57 GMT
"I would be shocked if that was the view of other scientists." Yes, so why would I be shocked, lol? You think you can just look up a web site, and that represents how the scientific community views that topic? That's naive on top of naive. You do not possess the knowledge or skill to be able to find the answer you are looking for. You are demonstrating the Dunning-Krueger effect. You don't know how much you don't know. If you did, you would be humbled. Freon Well, it's certainly the view of "other scientists," isn't it? It's not like I just fabricated the idea. It's pretty common. You know, among scientists. As for "finding the answer I was looking for," I certainly did, didn't I? It was easy to find. Because I already knew about it. You said you'd be shocked if it was the view of other scientists. It is. Here's some more help: "Theoretical physicist Michio Kaku said, “The human brain has 100 billion neurons, each neuron connected to 10,000 other neurons. Sitting on your shoulders is the most complicated object in the known universe.”" today.uconn.edu/2018/03/complicated-object-universe/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michio_KakuHe's a scientist. Does he count? Shocked yet? Here's an idea...find Michio Kaku's contact info, look him up, and tell him he's wrong. |
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Post by Mercy for All on May 13, 2024 23:50:47 GMT
You don't bother me. But...nice deflection. Ohhh, I didn't realize I was talking to your pridefulness. But then, I'm always talking to your pridefulness. Isn't that a sin, you sinning, sinner? Go ahead. Resist me. Freon Still deflection. Because once again, you see in me a reflection of yourself. All the things you accuse me of...you do them. Then, when caught, you just deflect and try to change the subject. More games. But, see, I haven't lost track of the conversation. So...in light of these games and your conversation with your mirror image, it's your own pridefulness you're addressing. |
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Post by freonbale on May 14, 2024 0:00:32 GMT
Yes, so why would I be shocked, lol? You think you can just look up a web site, and that represents how the scientific community views that topic? That's naive on top of naive. You do not possess the knowledge or skill to be able to find the answer you are looking for. You are demonstrating the Dunning-Krueger effect. You don't know how much you don't know. If you did, you would be humbled. Freon Well, it's certainly the view of "other scientists," isn't it? It's not like I just fabricated the idea. It's pretty common. You know, among scientists. As for "finding the answer I was looking for," I certainly did, didn't I? It was easy to find. Because I already knew about it. You said you'd be shocked if it was the view of other scientists. It is. Here's some more help: "Theoretical physicist Michio Kaku said, “The human brain has 100 billion neurons, each neuron connected to 10,000 other neurons. Sitting on your shoulders is the most complicated object in the known universe.”" today.uconn.edu/2018/03/complicated-object-universe/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michio_KakuHe's a scientist. Does he count? Shocked yet? Here's an idea...find Michio Kaku's contact info, look him up, and tell him he's wrong. I see you truly believe you've made a point. I'm fine with that. If you don't understand why you're embarrassing yourself, there is nothing I can say that will change that. Freon |
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Post by freonbale on May 14, 2024 0:01:56 GMT
Ohhh, I didn't realize I was talking to your pridefulness. But then, I'm always talking to your pridefulness. Isn't that a sin, you sinning, sinner? Go ahead. Resist me. Freon Still deflection. Because once again, you see in me a reflection of yourself. All the things you accuse me of...you do them. Then, when caught, you just deflect and try to change the subject. More games. But, see, I haven't lost track of the conversation. So...in light of these games and your conversation with your mirror image, it's your own pridefulness you're addressing. You didn't resist me, Mercy. But I am bored of you. Freon |
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Post by Mercy for All on May 14, 2024 0:34:20 GMT
Well, it's certainly the view of "other scientists," isn't it? It's not like I just fabricated the idea. It's pretty common. You know, among scientists. As for "finding the answer I was looking for," I certainly did, didn't I? It was easy to find. Because I already knew about it. You said you'd be shocked if it was the view of other scientists. It is. Here's some more help: "Theoretical physicist Michio Kaku said, “The human brain has 100 billion neurons, each neuron connected to 10,000 other neurons. Sitting on your shoulders is the most complicated object in the known universe.”" today.uconn.edu/2018/03/complicated-object-universe/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michio_KakuHe's a scientist. Does he count? Shocked yet? Here's an idea...find Michio Kaku's contact info, look him up, and tell him he's wrong. I see you truly believe you've made a point. I'm fine with that. If you don't understand why you're embarrassing yourself, there is nothing I can say that will change that. Freon I'm surprised you're not shocked. Actually I'm not. |
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Post by Mercy for All on May 14, 2024 0:34:34 GMT
Still deflection. Because once again, you see in me a reflection of yourself. All the things you accuse me of...you do them. Then, when caught, you just deflect and try to change the subject. More games. But, see, I haven't lost track of the conversation. So...in light of these games and your conversation with your mirror image, it's your own pridefulness you're addressing. You didn't resist me, Mercy. But I am bored of you. Freon Just games. |
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Post by freonbale on May 14, 2024 2:25:36 GMT
So would someone who is an ACTUAL devout Christian, please answer my question. What is the lure of Jesus? Why is having Jesus involved superior to just believing in G-d? What made you choose that path, when it seems like there are many inconsistencies in the Jesus story you also have to believe, to call Jesus your savior.
Remember, I'm Jewish, so for me, I just believe in G-d. Super simple. Going the Jesus route seems MUCH more complicated to me, and I respect that you went that way, but I'm just trying to understand why that is more appealing than simply believing in G-d, and following all G-d's rules, most of which are identical to Jesus'.
The only person I refuse to listen to on this subject is Mercy, who clearly has no practical religious knowledge or experience at all.
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Post by DaveJavu on May 14, 2024 5:45:54 GMT
So would someone who is an ACTUAL devout Christian, please answer my question. What is the lure of Jesus? Why is having Jesus involved superior to just believing in G-d? What made you choose that path, when it seems like there are many inconsistencies in the Jesus story you also have to believe, to call Jesus your savior. Remember, I'm Jewish, so for me, I just believe in G-d. Super simple. Going the Jesus route seems MUCH more complicated to me, and I respect that you went that way, but I'm just trying to understand why that is more appealing than simply believing in G-d, and following all G-d's rules, most of which are identical to Jesus'. The only person I refuse to listen to on this subject is Mercy, who clearly has no practical religious knowledge or experience at all. Freon Of all the posters (and former posters) on this site and the former eponymous one, MFA is the most deserving IMO of being called a devout Christian, both in behavior and in knowledge. You'll never get a better one. |
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Post by Mercy for All on May 14, 2024 13:22:15 GMT
So would someone who is an ACTUAL devout Christian, please answer my question. What is the lure of Jesus? Why is having Jesus involved superior to just believing in G-d? What made you choose that path, when it seems like there are many inconsistencies in the Jesus story you also have to believe, to call Jesus your savior. Remember, I'm Jewish, so for me, I just believe in G-d. Super simple. Going the Jesus route seems MUCH more complicated to me, and I respect that you went that way, but I'm just trying to understand why that is more appealing than simply believing in G-d, and following all G-d's rules, most of which are identical to Jesus'. The only person I refuse to listen to on this subject is Mercy, who clearly has no practical religious knowledge or experience at all. Freon Of all the posters (and former posters) on this site and the former eponymous one, MFA is the most deserving IMO of being called a devout Christian, both in behavior and in knowledge. You'll never get a better one. Thanks, it means a lot to me for you to say that. |
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Post by freonbale on May 14, 2024 13:57:27 GMT
So would someone who is an ACTUAL devout Christian, please answer my question. What is the lure of Jesus? Why is having Jesus involved superior to just believing in G-d? What made you choose that path, when it seems like there are many inconsistencies in the Jesus story you also have to believe, to call Jesus your savior. Remember, I'm Jewish, so for me, I just believe in G-d. Super simple. Going the Jesus route seems MUCH more complicated to me, and I respect that you went that way, but I'm just trying to understand why that is more appealing than simply believing in G-d, and following all G-d's rules, most of which are identical to Jesus'. The only person I refuse to listen to on this subject is Mercy, who clearly has no practical religious knowledge or experience at all. Freon Of all the posters (and former posters) on this site and the former eponymous one, MFA is the most deserving IMO of being called a devout Christian, both in behavior and in knowledge. You'll never get a better one. I appreciate your opinion on the matter, but all his knowledge is academic. Feel free to read his responses in this thread. He can tell me the details of any part of Christianity, yet he has no concept of what personal Faith is. There is no emotion in his responses, no journey or personal philosophy, just rote memorization, and that is not the type of question I'm asking. Freon |
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Post by Mercy for All on May 14, 2024 14:41:46 GMT
Of all the posters (and former posters) on this site and the former eponymous one, MFA is the most deserving IMO of being called a devout Christian, both in behavior and in knowledge. You'll never get a better one. I appreciate your opinion on the matter, but all his knowledge is academic. Feel free to read his responses in this thread. He can tell me the details of any part of Christianity, yet he has no concept of what personal Faith is. There is no emotion in his responses, no journey or personal philosophy, just rote memorization, and that is not the type of question I'm asking. Freon You seem to want stories of personal experience, of which I have many, but I will not subject them to your mockery. Suffice it to say, my epistemological journey is informed by experiential and emotional tributaries in addition to intellect and reason. Arguably, these are thalwegs compared to conscious, rational endeavour. |
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Post by DaveJavu on May 14, 2024 14:52:16 GMT
Of all the posters (and former posters) on this site and the former eponymous one, MFA is the most deserving IMO of being called a devout Christian, both in behavior and in knowledge. You'll never get a better one. Thanks, it means a lot to me for you to say that. Credit where credit is due. |
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Post by freonbale on May 14, 2024 15:06:20 GMT
I appreciate your opinion on the matter, but all his knowledge is academic. Feel free to read his responses in this thread. He can tell me the details of any part of Christianity, yet he has no concept of what personal Faith is. There is no emotion in his responses, no journey or personal philosophy, just rote memorization, and that is not the type of question I'm asking. Freon You seem to want stories of personal experience, of which I have many, but I will not subject them to your mockery. Suffice it to say, my epistemological journey is informed by experiential and emotional tributaries in addition to intellect and reason. Arguably, these are thalwegs compared to conscious, rational endeavour. Thalwegs, great word! I was clear in the original post that I did not want an academic explanation. I wanted a personal one. From someone who actually went through the experience. If it takes a whole story to answer my question, I suppose that is fine. I'm not sure why it would, though, I'm just asking for an opinion. Freon |
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