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Post by queshank on Apr 20, 2024 13:44:55 GMT
Ukraine gets all the funding they need. If the Democrats were smart they would be hoping they don't. Because when Ukraine continues to lose, there won't be convenient scapegoats to blame their disasters and fuckups on.
People literally are stupid enough to think the Republicans are making Ukraine lose. Literally stupid enough.
Queshank
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Post by bama beau on Apr 20, 2024 14:00:56 GMT
Ukraine gets all the funding they need. If the Democrats were smart they would be hoping they don't. Because when Ukraine continues to lose, there won't be convenient scapegoats to blame their disasters and fuckups on.
People literally are stupid enough to think the Republicans are making Ukraine lose. Literally stupid enough.
Queshank
Or, Republicans increasingly side with Putin, while Americans increasingly side with Ukraine. Putin is a monster. Why carry his water?
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Post by atreyu on Apr 20, 2024 14:08:50 GMT
Ukraine gets all the funding they need. If the Democrats were smart they would be hoping they don't. Because when Ukraine continues to lose, there won't be convenient scapegoats to blame their disasters and fuckups on.
People literally are stupid enough to think the Republicans are making Ukraine lose. Literally stupid enough.
Queshank
Why are you making up positions that don't exist?
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Post by queshank on Apr 20, 2024 14:17:01 GMT
Ukraine gets all the funding they need. If the Democrats were smart they would be hoping they don't. Because when Ukraine continues to lose, there won't be convenient scapegoats to blame their disasters and fuckups on.
People literally are stupid enough to think the Republicans are making Ukraine lose. Literally stupid enough.
Queshank
Or, Republicans increasingly side with Putin, while Americans increasingly side with Ukraine. Putin is a monster. Why carry his water? Joe McCarthy would be proud that Bush the Younger's "You're either with us or against us" rhetoric is working so well on you modern conservatives. Queshank
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Post by runswithscissors on Apr 20, 2024 14:17:24 GMT
Months of non support to the point of Ukraine running low on ammunition sure as hell doesn't help them win.
While Republicans deny urgent requests for support, it only helps Russin and further degrades Ukraine's position.
Looks like Republicans want Ukraine to lose quickly.
Democrats want to give them a fighting chance. Which is the best course of action?
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Post by queshank on Apr 20, 2024 14:17:35 GMT
Ukraine gets all the funding they need. If the Democrats were smart they would be hoping they don't. Because when Ukraine continues to lose, there won't be convenient scapegoats to blame their disasters and fuckups on.
People literally are stupid enough to think the Republicans are making Ukraine lose. Literally stupid enough.
Queshank
Why are you making up positions that don't exist?
Which position am I making up that doesn't exist?
For that matter, which "position" did I reference?
Queshank
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Post by queshank on Apr 20, 2024 14:17:56 GMT
Months of non support to the point of Ukraine running low on ammunition sure as hell doesn't help them win. While Republicans deny urgent requests for support, it only helps Russin and further degrades Ukraine's position. Looks like Republicans want Ukraine to lose quickly. Democrats want to give them a fighting chance. Which is the best course of action? See Autreyu? Queshank
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Post by queshank on Apr 20, 2024 14:19:00 GMT
Looks like Democrats want the Ukrainians to lose slowly. More profit in that.
And death. But hey who cares about death when there's jobs to worry about and elections to win amirite?
Queshank
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Post by atreyu on Apr 20, 2024 14:46:10 GMT
Months of non support to the point of Ukraine running low on ammunition sure as hell doesn't help them win. While Republicans deny urgent requests for support, it only helps Russin and further degrades Ukraine's position. Looks like Republicans want Ukraine to lose quickly. Democrats want to give them a fighting chance. Which is the best course of action? See Autreyu? Queshank
I see you ignoring questions.
The real question is why republicans are sitting on putin's lap? It's not if the war can be won by Ukraine. If Ukraine loses, it's not a disaster or fuck up of democratic policy like you suggest.
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Post by Monster Man on Apr 20, 2024 14:58:58 GMT
Looks like Democrats want the Ukrainians to lose slowly. More profit in that.
And death. But hey who cares about death when there's jobs to worry about and elections to win amirite?
Queshank
So, you want to provide Ukraine more support so they win? Or is it that you just want to see them lose faster?
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Post by RinsePrius on Apr 20, 2024 15:03:40 GMT
Wanting Ukraine to lose quickly is a pro-war position.
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Post by queshank on Apr 20, 2024 15:24:27 GMT
Loving how the talking points are shifting. We've gone from "Russia can't be allowed to win!"
To "Ukraine can't be allowed to lose quickly!"
The talking points will shift again. Reality has a way of doing that.
Queshank
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Post by queshank on Apr 20, 2024 16:14:03 GMT
I see you ignoring questions.
The real question is why republicans are sitting on putin's lap? It's not if the war can be won by Ukraine. If you Ukraine loses, it's not a disaster or fuck up of democratic policy like you suggest.
Is that the real question?
I'm not sure what the rest of your post is saying. "if you ukraine loses?"
Queshank
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Post by queshank on Apr 20, 2024 16:23:15 GMT
Looks like Democrats want the Ukrainians to lose slowly. More profit in that.
And death. But hey who cares about death when there's jobs to worry about and elections to win amirite?
Queshank
So, you want to provide Ukraine more support so they win? Or is it that you just want to see them lose faster?
I think after the election, when Biden wins, the talking points will shift and Ukraine will be pressured to reach a settlement deal with Russia. A reality that everyone already acknowledges behind the talking point political spin. The desire to make Ukraine "lose slowly" is predicated entirely on the disaster a Ukrainian capitulation will be for Democrat (read Establocrat) politicians in November and nothing more long sighted than that. Rank and file Democrats will be trained to ignore just how many sons and daughters of Ukraine were sacrificed in a failed bid to open Ukrainian oil and gas deposits to Western contractors, and move on to the next manufactured outrage keeping their focus on their evil neighbors and fellow countrymen. Two years ago I was pointing out that for Ukraine to "win" and reclaim the oil and gas deposits currently lived on by ethnic Russians who want closer ties to Russia, Western troops would have to get involved.
All I can do is thank whatever God each of you wants to consider me thanking that Republicans put enough of a damper on the pro Ukraine fever that was burning out of control that we might just be able to avoid World War III by foregoing involving the aforementioned Western troops. Can you imagine the jingoists posting on the boards like limey and Greg being allowed to infect others with their military adventurism and zealotry? Would the world even survive? (Okay I will still do a *wee* bit of trolling.)
Queshank
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Post by archie on Apr 20, 2024 17:24:57 GMT
Ukraine gets all the funding they need. If the Democrats were smart they would be hoping they don't. Because when Ukraine continues to lose, there won't be convenient scapegoats to blame their disasters and fuckups on.
People literally are stupid enough to think the Republicans are making Ukraine lose. Literally stupid enough.
Queshank
Or, Republicans increasingly side with Putin, while Americans increasingly side with Ukraine. Putin is a monster. Why carry his water? As usual, you got it backwards. Russia was our puppet when Trump was president. Now Biden is the puppet of Russia. Putin has no reason to fear Biden.
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Post by atreyu on Apr 20, 2024 17:51:37 GMT
Loving how the talking points are shifting. We've gone from "Russia can't be allowed to win!"
To "Ukraine can't be allowed to lose quickly!"
The talking points will shift again. Reality has a way of doing that.
Queshank
These are your talking points, not mine.
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Post by queshank on Apr 20, 2024 18:27:29 GMT
Loving how the talking points are shifting. We've gone from "Russia can't be allowed to win!"
To "Ukraine can't be allowed to lose quickly!"
The talking points will shift again. Reality has a way of doing that.
Queshank
These are your talking points, not mine.
Who are you again? Queshank
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Post by thecitizen on Apr 20, 2024 18:52:57 GMT
Ukraine gets all the funding they need. If the Democrats were smart they would be hoping they don't. Because when Ukraine continues to lose, there won't be convenient scapegoats to blame their disasters and fuckups on.
People literally are stupid enough to think the Republicans are making Ukraine lose. Literally stupid enough.
Queshank
Well, since all of the house republicans voted to fund and most of the republicans did not. I think republicans do want them to lose. If you are stupid enough to think that Ukraine’s lost is a lost for democrats, then I can understand why you are a trumper
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Post by thecitizen on Apr 20, 2024 19:00:24 GMT
Or, Republicans increasingly side with Putin, while Americans increasingly side with Ukraine. Putin is a monster. Why carry his water? As usual, you got it backwards. Russia was our puppet when Trump was president. Now Biden is the puppet of Russia. Putin has no reason to fear Biden. No, you got it wrong trump is and will always be Putin’s puppet
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Post by thor on Apr 20, 2024 19:04:01 GMT
Poor Que-Anon.
All that time 'researching' and he doesn't know that members of his own party (the American Fascist Partei) think that some of their peers have been co-opted by the FSB to spread propaganda and disinformation.
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