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Post by CadesCove on Jul 9, 2023 14:46:50 GMT
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Post by freonbale on Jul 9, 2023 14:50:52 GMT
This is interesting, but mass production is always the limiting factor. I track these technologies, and almost every week, I hear about some new breakthrough or another, but rarely does that get transformed into products because the manufacturing process for the technology is simply too expensive, cumbersome, resource-limited, etc. What IS very telling, is that industry seems to be standardizing to the Tesla adapter for recharging. I know of at least four companies that are doing so, and standards are what drives technology adoption more than revolutionary solutions. Freon |
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Post by CadesCove on Jul 9, 2023 15:06:13 GMT
This is interesting, but mass production is always the limiting factor. I track these technologies, and almost every week, I hear about some new breakthrough or another, but rarely does that get transformed into products because the manufacturing process for the technology is simply too expensive, cumbersome, resource-limited, etc. What IS very telling, is that industry seems to be standardizing to the Tesla adapter for recharging. I know of at least four companies that are doing so, and standards are what drives technology adoption more than revolutionary solutions. Freon That's why I qualified my post. As with most innovations it will be expensive and impractical in the beginning. Remember when DVD players were $500 and a 40" HDTV was $2,000? If there's real potential in the technology, the market will eventually make it happen. |
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Post by petep on Jul 9, 2023 15:08:01 GMT
This is interesting, but mass production is always the limiting factor. I track these technologies, and almost every week, I hear about some new breakthrough or another, but rarely does that get transformed into products because the manufacturing process for the technology is simply too expensive, cumbersome, resource-limited, etc. What IS very telling, is that industry seems to be standardizing to the Tesla adapter for recharging. I know of at least four companies that are doing so, and standards are what drives technology adoption more than revolutionary solutions. Freon Great point. A Pulitzer Prize winning book titled the soul of a new machine was the start in standardization of computer platforms and. Compatibility. When that happened things exploded. It’s good to see standardization on charging. |
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Post by freonbale on Jul 9, 2023 15:08:16 GMT
This is interesting, but mass production is always the limiting factor. I track these technologies, and almost every week, I hear about some new breakthrough or another, but rarely does that get transformed into products because the manufacturing process for the technology is simply too expensive, cumbersome, resource-limited, etc. What IS very telling, is that industry seems to be standardizing to the Tesla adapter for recharging. I know of at least four companies that are doing so, and standards are what drives technology adoption more than revolutionary solutions. Freon That's why I qualified my post. As with most innovations it will be expensive and impractical in the beginning. Remember when DVD players were $500 and a 40" HDTV was $2,000? If there's real potential in the technology, the market will eventually make it happen. I'm already a full believer in pure electric vehicles, so I'm with you on your prediction. But specifically to Toyota's 'breakthrough', I will be surprised if it actually turns into a product. That said, I would LOVE their new hybrid Sienna  Freon |
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Post by freonbale on Jul 9, 2023 15:15:28 GMT
An interesting related article. linkFreon |
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Post by archie on Jul 9, 2023 16:29:10 GMT
I am traveling to Connecticut in November with my two dogs to a wedding. At most in that 1300 mile trip I will stop four times for gas. It will take me ten minutes to fill my tank and be on the way again. Maybe a bit longer if I get a cup of coffee and a treat for my dogs. If you go with an electric car, how far before you have to charge it, and how long will that take? |
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Post by Mercy for All on Jul 9, 2023 17:02:05 GMT
I am traveling to Connecticut in November with my two dogs to a wedding. At most in that 1300 mile trip I will stop four times for gas. It will take me ten minutes to fill my tank and be on the way again. Maybe a bit longer if I get a cup of coffee and a treat for my dogs. If you go with an electric car, how far before you have to charge it, and how long will that take? You should look it up. You might be surprised. |
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Post by petep on Jul 9, 2023 18:17:49 GMT
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Post by Lomelis on Jul 9, 2023 18:57:52 GMT
Hydrogen powered vehicles are already here. It's only a matter of time before the infrastructure is built out and hydrogen becomes cheaper than gas.
EV's will never replace gas powered. Millions of people live in apartments and condos that will not be able to place electric chargers in every parking place.
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Post by Odysseus on Jul 9, 2023 19:08:14 GMT
Unfortunately so far, all the articles are long on Toyota's EV promises but disappointingly short on details.
Here's one:
But as I read through the article, I could find little detail on just how these new batteries work better.
There's also the fire danger from Lithium batteries:
For more details, watch the video at above link.
Interestingly, the link discusses lithium batteries in devices such as scooters and e-bikes, and cautions against storing an ebike by an exit door, because of the potential for fire hazard.
Now, I'll be looking for stats on just how many battery operated automobiles catch fire.
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Post by CadesCove on Jul 9, 2023 20:05:22 GMT
I am traveling to Connecticut in November with my two dogs to a wedding. At most in that 1300 mile trip I will stop four times for gas. It will take me ten minutes to fill my tank and be on the way again. Maybe a bit longer if I get a cup of coffee and a treat for my dogs. If you go with an electric car, how far before you have to charge it, and how long will that take? Try actually reading the article numbnuts. |
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Post by stugatze on Jul 9, 2023 20:25:30 GMT
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Dear CADES Little Quisling, .. do NOT bet the bank just yet on that,  .. it MIGHT not work the way you think,  .. you silly young little white boy!  |
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Post by CadesCove on Jul 9, 2023 21:30:48 GMT
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Dear CADES Little Quisling, .. do NOT bet the bank just yet on that, .. it MIGHT not work the way you think, .. you silly young little white boy! Do you have comprehension issues Stuey? No one said it's happening any time soon. |
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Post by Mercy for All on Jul 9, 2023 22:37:19 GMT
And tractors and other farm equipment. |
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Post by archie on Jul 10, 2023 1:24:51 GMT
I am traveling to Connecticut in November with my two dogs to a wedding. At most in that 1300 mile trip I will stop four times for gas. It will take me ten minutes to fill my tank and be on the way again. Maybe a bit longer if I get a cup of coffee and a treat for my dogs. If you go with an electric car, how far before you have to charge it, and how long will that take? Try actually reading the article numbnuts. Simple question, how far, and how long to recharge. And I should ask, what does a recharge cost? |
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Post by william on Jul 10, 2023 1:44:01 GMT
As has been said for years, gas powered is soon dead and gone. |
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Post by william on Jul 10, 2023 1:46:35 GMT
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Post by william on Jul 10, 2023 1:50:33 GMT
I am traveling to Connecticut in November with my two dogs to a wedding. At most in that 1300 mile trip I will stop four times for gas. It will take me ten minutes to fill my tank and be on the way again. Maybe a bit longer if I get a cup of coffee and a treat for my dogs. If you go with an electric car, how far before you have to charge it, and how long will that take? You should look it up. You might be surprised. Would it be the end of the world it you had to stop 5 times for 20 minutes each? |
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Post by CadesCove on Jul 10, 2023 1:59:32 GMT
Try actually reading the article numbnuts. Simple question, how far, and how long to recharge. And I should ask, what does a recharge cost? It's a mystery. Except to those who read the article. |
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