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Post by archie on Aug 29, 2020 3:36:06 GMT
Do you have any idea of how many burglars and store robbers are shot and killed by the home owners and store owners, or how many car jackers are shot, and did you ever hear of a purse snatcher getting blown away?
Oh, I get it now.
Someone was trying to steal Kyle Rittenhouse's favorite plastic bag, so he shot them dead!
Make so much more sense.
Purse-snatchers try to rob Detroit woman; she shoots and ... www.mlive.com/news/detroit/2009/09/purse... A woman shot and killed a purse-snatcher when he and a suspected accomplice attempted to rob the woman at a gas station early Friday.The 43-year-old Detroit woman was approached a gas station on .. Gun Owners of America states that armed citizens kill at least twice as many criminals as police do every year, 1,527 to 606. GOA also said that: “Of the 2.5 million times citizens use their guns to defend themselves every year, the overwhelming majority merely brandish their gun or fire a warning shot to scare off their attackers. Less than 8 percent of the time, a citizen kills or wounds his/her attacker.” More People Use a Gun in Self-Defense Each Year Than Die ... www.dailysignal.com/2018/07/06/more-people... Jul 06, 2018 · During that five-year period, the Department of Justice confirmed a total of 338,700 defensive gun uses in both violent attacks and property crimes where … |
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Post by archie on Aug 29, 2020 3:37:36 GMT
Good night. I enjoyed watching Trump this evening. He says it like it is.
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 29, 2020 3:54:12 GMT
Good night. I enjoyed watching Trump this evening. He says it like it is.
Enjoy what's left of your freedom, while it lasts, if Trump gets re-elected.
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Post by thor on Aug 29, 2020 4:04:46 GMT
Because the Connecticut Mafia said it was OK.
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Post by Lomelis on Aug 29, 2020 5:48:14 GMT
If it's proven that he acted in self defense then their deaths at his hands wouldn't be crimes at all. Nope. He brought a gun to a riot. He had the intention of using it and he did. [/p]
Greg [/quote] Lol. Seriously that's all you have? Jesus Greg. Unless some video surfaces of him provoking a violent confrontation then the murder charges aren't going to stick. |
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Post by Lomelis on Aug 29, 2020 6:10:01 GMT
People aren't out in the streets protesting for no good reason. We wouldn't be here if the state treated people as humans with dignity and worth. TL there are legitimate types of protest that help a cause and there are shit protests that cause people to turn against it. These people are rioting, destroying property, attacking people, and they have absolutely no clue why. These are not people protesting for a cause. They are being violent shitheads. They don't care about what's going on, this just an excuse for them to show their ass, burn some buildings, and rob people. They are the reason that Trump will likely get reelected. |
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Post by limey² on Aug 29, 2020 7:49:53 GMT
I've been hit by a half brick, a bottle, and 1" hex-nuts during a riot, whilst carrying a 7.62mm self-loading rifle. Didn't shoot anyone.
Is "self-loading" what we call "automatic"?
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 29, 2020 8:36:42 GMT
Is "self-loading" what we call "automatic"?
Yes; not full auto. 1 bang per trigger squeeze.
OK, that's what we call semi-automatic.
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Post by limey² on Aug 29, 2020 9:07:29 GMT
Yes; not full auto. 1 bang per trigger squeeze.
OK, that's what we call semi-automatic.
Ah. So, in US terms, I didn't shoot anyone dead with my semi-automatic rifle when hit with objects thrown by rioters. |
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 29, 2020 9:22:11 GMT
OK, that's what we call semi-automatic.
Ah. So, in US terms, I didn't shoot anyone dead with my semi-automatic rifle when hit with objects thrown by rioters.
As you wish.
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Post by limey² on Aug 29, 2020 13:19:32 GMT
Ah. So, in US terms, I didn't shoot anyone dead with my semi-automatic rifle when hit with objects thrown by rioters.
As you wish.
I'm curious about the right wing view on this. Should I have started dropping Republican* rioters? My life was certainly in danger. * in this context, anti-British people from Northern Ireland |
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Post by archie on Aug 29, 2020 13:40:29 GMT
I'm curious about the right wing view on this. Should I have started dropping Republican* rioters? My life was certainly in danger. * in this context, anti-British people from Northern Ireland Yes Limey. If your life was in danger of serious injury or death, and especially by people against your country do what your military should do. Open fire. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2020 15:17:10 GMT
People aren't out in the streets protesting for no good reason. We wouldn't be here if the state treated people as humans with dignity and worth. TL there are legitimate types of protest that help a cause and there are shit protests that cause people to turn against it. These people are rioting, destroying property, attacking people, and they have absolutely no clue why. These are not people protesting for a cause. They are being violent shitheads. They don't care about what's going on, this just an excuse for them to show their ass, burn some buildings, and rob people. They are the reason that Trump will likely get reelected. Attempts to write this protest off mirror what pro-apartheid types said about MLK and his movement. They supported the Birmingham PD for the exact same reasons. Yes, sometimes a few folks get violent but there is a reason people are pissed off enough to burn down a police station. At the end of the day, a protest isn't supposed to be orderly. |
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Post by limey² on Aug 29, 2020 15:41:47 GMT
I'm curious about the right wing view on this. Should I have started dropping Republican* rioters? My life was certainly in danger. * in this context, anti-British people from Northern Ireland Yes Limey. If your life was in danger of serious injury or death, and especially by people against your country do what your military should do. Open fire. Orders were (I paraphrase) "lethal force is authorised where a threat to life exists, and there is no other way to prevent this". In a riot it's very difficult to pick out the actual guilty parties. Deliberately so in NI, where an aim of the Irish terrorists was provocation, to gain propaganda. They practised techniques intended to cause "innocent" people on their side to get arrested/injured, maybe killed, by legitimate Crown forces. We would have been doing their work for them by casually killing some kid throwing a petrol bomb. See Bloody Sunday and the repercussions of the Paratroopers killing numerous peaceful marchers. You always seem keen on mass killing by the State. |
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Post by thor on Aug 29, 2020 16:06:34 GMT
Yes Limey. If your life was in danger of serious injury or death, and especially by people against your country do what your military should do. Open fire. Orders were (I paraphrase) "lethal force is authorised where a threat to life exists, and there is no other way to prevent this". In a riot it's very difficult to pick out the actual guilty parties. Deliberately so in NI, where an aim of the Irish terrorists was provocation, to gain propaganda. They practised techniques intended to cause "innocent" people on their side to get arrested/injured, maybe killed, by legitimate Crown forces. We would have been doing their work for them by casually killing some kid throwing a petrol bomb. See Bloody Sunday and the repercussions of the Paratroopers killing numerous peaceful marchers. You always seem keen on mass killing by the State.It's part of the masturbatory fantasy that many right-wingers have in this country. |
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Post by thor on Aug 29, 2020 16:13:21 GMT
TL there are legitimate types of protest that help a cause and there are shit protests that cause people to turn against it. These people are rioting, destroying property, attacking people, and they have absolutely no clue why. These are not people protesting for a cause. They are being violent shitheads. They don't care about what's going on, this just an excuse for them to show their ass, burn some buildings, and rob people. They are the reason that Trump will likely get reelected. Attempts to write this protest off mirror what pro-apartheid types said about MLK and his movement. They supported the Birmingham PD for the exact same reasons. Yes, sometimes a few folks get violent but there is a reason people are pissed off enough to burn down a police station. At the end of the day, a protest isn't supposed to be orderly. What is interesting about this situation is that the Right-winger is pulling out ALL the stops to equate ALL protestors with looters and rioters. Just as they did back in the 60s. When our Super-Patriots here on LNF squeak about how they are ready for revolution, I roll my eyes and say 'No, you aren't'. They see blatant injustice and do nothing - perhaps looking for ways to blame the victim. In short, they are full of shit. |
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Post by Fiddler on Aug 29, 2020 16:32:55 GMT
When we discussed that subject, you lost, and it's happening again. Sorry that you are ignorant of that fact. As in that monument discussion, your illogical opinions are becoming painfully farcical. It's hard to watch. Is that how you remember it? I have a different recollection. I remember you getting shut down on point after point, over and over again. You dismissed everything which cut against your narrative, just like you dismiss the Cornerstone Speech and the various state ordinances and declarations. I don't recall a single poster finding your arguments persuasive.
That's how he recalls it too .. Weird how his sense of pride forces him to choose embarrassment over enlightenment ..
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Post by Lomelis on Aug 29, 2020 16:54:58 GMT
TL there are legitimate types of protest that help a cause and there are shit protests that cause people to turn against it. These people are rioting, destroying property, attacking people, and they have absolutely no clue why. These are not people protesting for a cause. They are being violent shitheads. They don't care about what's going on, this just an excuse for them to show their ass, burn some buildings, and rob people. They are the reason that Trump will likely get reelected. Attempts to write this protest off mirror what pro-apartheid types said about MLK and his movement. They supported the Birmingham PD for the exact same reasons. Yes, sometimes a few folks get violent but there is a reason people are pissed off enough to burn down a police station. At the end of the day, a protest isn't supposed to be orderly. I'm talking specifically about rioters burning, looting, and committing violence against people, businesses, and neighborhoods. These are not legitimate protesters. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2020 17:45:29 GMT
Attempts to write this protest off mirror what pro-apartheid types said about MLK and his movement. They supported the Birmingham PD for the exact same reasons. Yes, sometimes a few folks get violent but there is a reason people are pissed off enough to burn down a police station. At the end of the day, a protest isn't supposed to be orderly. I'm talking specifically about rioters burning, looting, and committing violence against people, businesses, and neighborhoods. These are not legitimate protesters. I'm not a fan of that either but I think there is an element of it that is unavoidable given the situation. And it was also going on during the civil rights struggles of MLK's day as well. But look at the change that came in the wake of that movement. Even an imperfect protest can have beneficial results. |
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Post by Lomelis on Aug 29, 2020 18:09:14 GMT
I'm talking specifically about rioters burning, looting, and committing violence against people, businesses, and neighborhoods. These are not legitimate protesters. I'm not a fan of that either but I think there is an element of it that is unavoidable given the situation. And it was also going on during the civil rights struggles of MLK's day as well. But look at the change that came in the wake of that movement. Even an imperfect protest can have beneficial results. The problem is that you are lumping the rioters in with legitimate protesters. You are downplaying, justifying, and outright in many cases defending the violent behavior. There is little difference between a rioter who is burning down a car lot and attacking anyone that might heaven forbid want to protect their property and a police officer abusing someone on the street. The only difference is that the officer has a state sanctioned license to loot and pillage while the rioter does not. |
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