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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 14:17:32 GMT
Fucking Academy of Pediatrics and their gullibility. Fuckers must have gotten taken in by one of those email chain letters. Ignorant savages.
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Post by Odysseus on Jun 29, 2020 14:30:07 GMT
No. It's not. You've been fed a bunch of horseshit and are incapable of looking at the data reasonably and logically. Fear has taken hold and you can't think straight. Your fear has made us worse off than ever before. Fear? That is a baseless claim that YOU have been fed. Considering my age and demographics, I likely have already contracted COVID-19, or if I did contract it, would likely have little difficulty in defeating it. So my mask wearing has ZERO to do with my own safety. I wear a mask because I am a likely vector, a carrier of a disease that is highly virulent to certain demographics of a society I share with others. If there is even a tiny chance of my preventing harm to others by wearing a mask, I will wear it happily. You, on the other hand, seem to care only about your personal situation, and not about your fellow citizens. If that is not indicative of a larger problem, I can think of nothing that is. Freon Lomello is a Trumpuppet through and through.
Ignorant, selfish, egotistical, and just bad news.
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Post by Lomelis on Jun 29, 2020 14:31:26 GMT
No. It's not. You've been fed a bunch of horseshit and are incapable of looking at the data reasonably and logically. Fear has taken hold and you can't think straight. Your fear has made us worse off than ever before. Fear? That is a baseless claim that YOU have been fed. Considering my age and demographics, I likely have already contracted COVID-19, or if I did contract it, would likely have little difficulty in defeating it. So my mask wearing has ZERO to do with my own safety. I wear a mask because I am a likely vector, a carrier of a disease that is highly virulent to certain demographics of a society I share with others. If there is even a tiny chance of my preventing harm to others by wearing a mask, I will wear it happily. You, on the other hand, seem to care only about your personal situation, and not about your fellow citizens. If that is not indicative of a larger problem, I can think of nothing that is. Freon You are doing it because you were told to. That's the only reason. Like a good unquestioning little Egor to the state. Yes master, whatever you say master. Did you say the world is flat master? Oh yes then the world is flat. Master says the world is round now? Oh yes master the world is no longer flat, it is now round. That's you. You aren't really thinking about the data at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 14:54:47 GMT
One of the (many) reasons I don't wear a mask is because it compels the fearful to stay 6 feet away from me on the rare occasions I leave my house. I prefer people stay *at least* 6 feet away from me in the best of times.
Plus I'm pretty good at covering my mouth when I sneeze and cough. Not forming a tube to blow through like the demonstrators in CNN videos. I was raised in the Midwest so it must just be forgotten lore from the frontier days only we Midwesterners held onto.
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Post by freonbale on Jun 29, 2020 15:26:44 GMT
You are doing it because you were told to. That's the only reason. Like a good unquestioning little Egor to the state. Yes master, whatever you say master. Did you say the world is flat master? Oh yes then the world is flat. Master says the world is round now? Oh yes master the world is no longer flat, it is now round. That's you. You aren't really thinking about the data at all. You are just wrong. I work for a hospital system, and I get weekly live updates from our epidemiologists who show us the numbers and the science and make a strong argument based on data. My team works directly with COVID patients, and I personally have helped implement a cloud AI system to analyze radiology data to look for symptoms so our overwhelmed radiology staff can more effectively do their jobs. This is real. You can be a part of the solution, or you can put your partisan beliefs ahead of the safety of your fellow citizens. Freon
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Post by MojoJojo on Jun 29, 2020 16:32:19 GMT
Sending the kids back to school this Fall will trigger the third wave. Speaking of sending kids back to school this fall, what does the American Academy of Pediatrics .... you know ... "experts" ... have to say about keeping kids out of school? Aside from the fact that keeping the kids out of school is doing more harm .... Man I wish the pro lockdown crowd would start paying attention to "the science," don't you? How long have we known kids were fine from this? Was it January or February we knew that? I forget.
With the above principles in mind, the AAP strongly advocates that all policy considerations for the coming school year should start with a goal of having students physically present in school. The importance of inperson learning is well-documented, and there is already evidence of the negative impacts on children because of school closures in the spring of 2020. Lengthy time away from school and associated interruption of supportive services often results in social isolation, making it difficult for schools to identify and address important learning deficits as well as child and adolescent physical or sexual abuse, substance use, depression, and suicidal ideation. This, in turn, places children and adolescents at considerable risk of morbidity and, in some cases, mortality. Beyond the educational impact and social impact of school closures, there has been substantial impact on food security and physical activity for children and families.
Policy makers must also consider the mounting evidence regarding COVID-19 in children and adolescents, including the role they may play in transmission of the infection. SARS-CoV-2 appears to behave differently in children and adolescents than other common respiratory viruses, such as influenza, on which much of the current guidance regarding school closures is based. Although children and adolescents play a major role in amplifying influenza outbreaks, to date, this does not appear to be the case with SARS-CoV-2. Although many questions remain, the preponderance of evidence indicates that children and adolescents are less likely to be symptomatic and less likely to have severe disease resulting from SARS-CoV-2 infection. In addition, children may be less likely to become infected and to spread infection. Policies to mitigate the spread of COVID-19 within schools must be balanced with the known harms to children, adolescents, families, and the community by keeping children at home.
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The kids'll return to school, get the infection and spread it to others. Not sure why this is such a difficult point to understand. I'm not worried about the kids and COVID, the vast majority will be fine with a few sad exceptions. Their role as a carrier is what I'm addressing. Yes, the lockdowns are hardest on the kids but that doesn't negate what I'm saying, the kids are spreaders.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 16:49:21 GMT
Speaking of sending kids back to school this fall, what does the American Academy of Pediatrics .... you know ... "experts" ... have to say about keeping kids out of school? Aside from the fact that keeping the kids out of school is doing more harm .... Man I wish the pro lockdown crowd would start paying attention to "the science," don't you? How long have we known kids were fine from this? Was it January or February we knew that? I forget.
With the above principles in mind, the AAP strongly advocates that all policy considerations for the coming school year should start with a goal of having students physically present in school. The importance of inperson learning is well-documented, and there is already evidence of the negative impacts on children because of school closures in the spring of 2020. Lengthy time away from school and associated interruption of supportive services often results in social isolation, making it difficult for schools to identify and address important learning deficits as well as child and adolescent physical or sexual abuse, substance use, depression, and suicidal ideation. This, in turn, places children and adolescents at considerable risk of morbidity and, in some cases, mortality. Beyond the educational impact and social impact of school closures, there has been substantial impact on food security and physical activity for children and families.
Policy makers must also consider the mounting evidence regarding COVID-19 in children and adolescents, including the role they may play in transmission of the infection. SARS-CoV-2 appears to behave differently in children and adolescents than other common respiratory viruses, such as influenza, on which much of the current guidance regarding school closures is based. Although children and adolescents play a major role in amplifying influenza outbreaks, to date, this does not appear to be the case with SARS-CoV-2. Although many questions remain, the preponderance of evidence indicates that children and adolescents are less likely to be symptomatic and less likely to have severe disease resulting from SARS-CoV-2 infection. In addition, children may be less likely to become infected and to spread infection. Policies to mitigate the spread of COVID-19 within schools must be balanced with the known harms to children, adolescents, families, and the community by keeping children at home.
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The kids'll return to school, get the infection and spread it to others. Not sure why this is such a difficult point to understand. I'm not worried about the kids and COVID, the vast majority will be fine with a few sad exceptions. Their role as a carrier is what I'm addressing. Yes, the lockdowns are hardest on the kids but that doesn't negate what I'm saying, the kids are spreaders. sounds like somebody needs to explain that to the American Association of pediatrics. it’s them you have a beef with. I even bolded the relevant portions for your convenience and you still skipped it. Queshank
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Post by petep on Jun 29, 2020 16:55:51 GMT
Yes. USC and Los Angeles county published a study documenting this a couple months ago. It’s been buried by the legacy media.
Add covid to the long list. Stormy, collusion, racism etc.
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Post by Mercy for All on Jun 29, 2020 16:57:21 GMT
It's not a complicated solution. Lockdown. Support people financially. With what? The money the government collects from taxes. That is "the people's money." But it's all spoken for?
Simple. Pull a paltry hundred billion out of defence spending...no, not soldiers' salaries. Pull it out of that money budgeted for research and development of death and destruction technology, a field in which the U.S. not only leads the way by miles, but actually pushes forward everybody else's death and destruction capability (as they follow the trails brilliantly forged by the U.S.).
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Post by MojoJojo on Jun 29, 2020 17:01:59 GMT
The kids'll return to school, get the infection and spread it to others. Not sure why this is such a difficult point to understand. I'm not worried about the kids and COVID, the vast majority will be fine with a few sad exceptions. Their role as a carrier is what I'm addressing. Yes, the lockdowns are hardest on the kids but that doesn't negate what I'm saying, the kids are spreaders. sounds like somebody needs to explain that to the American Association of pediatrics. it’s them you have a beef with. I even bolded the relevant portions for your convenience and you still skipped it. Queshank That's 'cause my answer was pre-loaded. You're right though, I didn't read the bold section at the end, my bad and that's encouraging. If it's indeed valid (they suck at spreading) then I take it back. Send the lil heathens to school. Apologies.
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Post by Fiddler on Jun 29, 2020 17:11:40 GMT
Yes. USC and Los Angeles county published a study documenting this a couple months ago. It’s been buried by the legacy media.
Link please.. . (You're new here so you may not be aware that this is a fact based forum .. )
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Post by RWB on Jun 29, 2020 17:27:51 GMT
Yes. USC and Los Angeles county published a study documenting this a couple months ago. It’s been buried by the legacy media.
Link please.. . (You're new here so you may not be aware that this is a fact based forum .. )
unless you're a Liberal Lunatic than Fake News and Lies Are considered fact.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 17:30:18 GMT
Yes. USC and Los Angeles county published a study documenting this a couple months ago. It’s been buried by the legacy media.
Link please.. . (You're new here so you may not be aware that this is a fact based forum .. )
Stanford did too. Ill provide multiple links after work. The fact that you’re actually requesting links on things that should be common knowledge at least in a forum like this is precisely why you’re the anti science crowd Queshank
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Post by Fiddler on Jun 29, 2020 17:35:13 GMT
Link please.. . (You're new here so you may not be aware that this is a fact based forum .. )
things that should be common knowledge at least in a forum like this is precisely why you’re the anti science crowd
Joke? Right?
Sure.. Send the link once your hair stops burning ..
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Post by MojoJojo on Jun 29, 2020 17:51:38 GMT
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Post by petep on Jun 29, 2020 18:11:58 GMT
Good Lord you people are so stupid.
The fix for worse health outcomes due to loss of employer sponsored health care during an economic downturn is...
A NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE WITH UNIVERSAL COVERAGE
DUH!
Yes. Shut down everything and the govt will take care of us with all of their own money. Yipppppereeee
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Post by MojoJojo on Jun 29, 2020 20:01:11 GMT
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Post by petep on Jun 29, 2020 20:44:00 GMT
Link please.. . (You're new here so you may not be aware that this is a fact based forum .. )
Stanford did too. Ill provide multiple links after work. The fact that you’re actually requesting links on things that should be common knowledge at least in a forum like this is precisely why you’re the anti science crowd Queshank I’ll get the link for the ignorant lad It’s astounding to me that anyone who is posting in this subject can be so in the dark as to the facts and data On another thread one of our resident posters accused me of basically lying when I stated that cases can and have been counted as covid simply on the basis of showing symptoms and not as a result of a test. I had to post the cdc guidelines via a link to show him this fact. How can anyone be so clueless.
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Post by petep on Jun 29, 2020 20:47:55 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 21:11:55 GMT
things that should be common knowledge at least in a forum like this is precisely why you’re the anti science crowd Joke? Right?
Sure.. Send the link once your hair stops burning ..
No. Not a joke at all. The pro lockdown crowd has not only been anti science this entire time, they have actively sought to suppress or drown out studies that do not confirm the political decisions made. This is from Stanford ... in April ... and the article references another performed in Germany: Antibody tests suggest that coronavirus infections vastly exceed official counts - Nature - April 17, 2020The fact that both studies detected much higher rates of infection than official figures suggest is not surprising, says Peter Collignon, a physician and microbiologist at the Australian National University in Canberra. The virus had been spreading in the United States and parts of Europe for at least a month before it was detected as spreading in the community.
USC study from LA Early antibody testing suggests COVID-19 infections in L.A. County greatly exceed documented cases - USC - April 20, 2020USC and the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health on Monday released preliminary results from a collaborative scientific study that suggests infections from the new coronavirus are far more widespread — and the fatality rate much lower — in L.A. County than previously thought.
Here's one of your favorite sources Fids.... livescience mag. 1 in 5 people tested in New York City had antibodies for the coronavirus - Livescience - April 23, 2020Nearly 1 in 7 people in New York who were randomly tested for coronavirus antibodies turned out to have them, Governor Andrew Cuomo announced today (April 23). In New York City, the number is even higher: About 1 in 5 people tested positive for antibodies to SARS-CoV-2. You're welcome to post all of the "drown it out/suppression" examples from the past 2 months since these studies. But more studies keep coming out showing how much longer it's been here and how many more people have it. Proving the "drown it out/suppression" arguments were to defend political decisions. Not science. Queshank
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