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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2020 20:41:46 GMT
Oh, ok. They are laughing at us because our leadership didn't go full Mussolini on us?
Your attitude (the attitude of the far-right) concerning the containment of the virus and consideration for others is simply disgusting. I cannot imagine a more unAmerica approach to a crisis. Nationalist idiots have assured that we're seen as abject failures. We deserve the ridicule..
Right. I'm the bad guy. That's how it always goes. Y'all post some b.s. I counter it. You call me something. |
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Post by archie on Aug 9, 2020 21:20:28 GMT
Literally laughing out loud here. They think we are weak because we won't give up our freedoms? Uhhh no Wrongway. Because our leadership is incompetent. You have a lot to learn. I believe we are the third highest population country in the world, so I don’t doubt we have many more cases than some other countries. If you compare our bad numbers to the other countries bad numbers by per million population. We look pretty good. |
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Post by phillip on Aug 9, 2020 21:26:36 GMT
Uhhh no Wrongway. Because our leadership is incompetent. You have a lot to learn. I believe we are the third highest population country in the world, so I don’t doubt we have many more cases than some other countries. If you compare our bad numbers to the other countries bad numbers by per million population. We look pretty good.
In countries with more than 10 million citizens, the United States is 2nd [15,674] in cases per one million behind only Chile [19,498]. So yeah, your doubts are wrong [As usual].
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Post by rabbitreborn on Aug 9, 2020 21:38:17 GMT
You have a lot to learn. I believe we are the third highest population country in the world, so I don’t doubt we have many more cases than some other countries. If you compare our bad numbers to the other countries bad numbers by per million population. We look pretty good.
In countries with more than 10 million citizens, the United States is 2nd [15,674] in cases per one million behind only Chile [19,498]. So yeah, your doubts are wrong [As usual].
Is cases per million more or less important than deaths per million population, in your opinion? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2020 21:41:15 GMT
Uhhh no Wrongway. Because our leadership is incompetent. You have a lot to learn. I believe we are the third highest population country in the world, so I don’t doubt we have many more cases than some other countries. If you compare our bad numbers to the other countries bad numbers by per million population. We look pretty good.
Tell us how this is pretty good.
Answer: It's not. It's an absolute fucking failure. |
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Post by phillip on Aug 9, 2020 21:44:21 GMT
In countries with more than 10 million citizens, the United States is 2nd [15,674] in cases per one million behind only Chile [19,498]. So yeah, your doubts are wrong [As usual].
Is cases per million more or less important than deaths per million population, in your opinion? We’re 8th in the world in that department using the same criteria. So, regardless of which one you prioritize, we’re way above average. Which slaps down Archie’s “doubts.” |
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Post by phillip on Aug 9, 2020 21:46:24 GMT
You have a lot to learn. I believe we are the third highest population country in the world, so I don’t doubt we have many more cases than some other countries. If you compare our bad numbers to the other countries bad numbers by per million population. We look pretty good.
Tell us how this is pretty good.
Answer: It's not. It's an absolute fucking failure. We’re number 1 (In how to not respond to an epidemic). We’re not pretty good, we’re the best (At failing miserably to control it). ‘Murica! |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Aug 9, 2020 21:53:04 GMT
Is cases per million more or less important than deaths per million population, in your opinion? We’re 8th in the world in that department using the same criteria. So, regardless of which one you prioritize, we’re way above average. Which slaps down Archie’s “doubts.” Do you think quality of current government (and specifically just the executive branch) is the most decisive factor in determining how a country’s population will be impacted by the coronavirus? |
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Post by Lomelis on Aug 9, 2020 22:47:03 GMT
We’re 8th in the world in that department using the same criteria. So, regardless of which one you prioritize, we’re way above average. Which slaps down Archie’s “doubts.” Do you think quality of current government (and specifically just the executive branch) is the most decisive factor in determining how a country’s population will be impacted by the coronavirus? According to some here we were doomed once Trump disbanded the super badass NSC secret forces pandemic team. That team would have assassinated the infected bat before it made it's way to the market thus preventing the whole pandemic from ever beginning. Of course health, age, culture, hygiene, economic status mean nothing when it comes to how well a group of people will handle a virus. It all depends on the President. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2020 22:48:46 GMT
We’re 8th in the world in that department using the same criteria. So, regardless of which one you prioritize, we’re way above average. Which slaps down Archie’s “doubts.” Do you think quality of current government (and specifically just the executive branch) is the most decisive factor in determining how a country’s population will be impacted by the coronavirus? How else to explain ours and Brazil's complete failures compared to countries that were proactive in taking steps to mitigate the spread? It's not a deep logic dive. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2020 23:13:38 GMT
Our numbers are inflated. The CDC is including COVID-19 as cause of death in their provisional deaths tally if it was present at the time of death via test, presumption or probability. They also include pneumonia and flu. We've also had about 3% inflation due to false positive tests. If that number holds, roughly 147,000 people have been counted when they never had it. There have also been areas that included presumed infections where people that had been exposed are counted as COVID positive in absence of an actual test. The end result is we know quite a few people have had the virus, but we have no idea how many. There's no way to go back in time and be more accurate. www.medtechdive.com/news/fda-warns-of-false-positives-with-bd-coronavirus-diagnostic/581115/#:~:text=Dive%20Brief%3A,the%20company%20were%20false%20positives. www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/tech_notes.htm |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Aug 9, 2020 23:58:12 GMT
Do you think quality of current government (and specifically just the executive branch) is the most decisive factor in determining how a country’s population will be impacted by the coronavirus? How else to explain ours and Brazil's complete failures compared to countries that were proactive in taking steps to mitigate the spread? It's not a deep logic dive. Chile, Sweden, Italy, Spain, Belgium, UK, Peru. All have worse deaths per capita from COVID compared to both Brazil and the US.. Why? I mean “how else could it be explained” if not the executive branch of government? Derp? |
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 10, 2020 0:20:24 GMT
Our numbers are inflated. The CDC is including COVID-19 as cause of death in their provisional deaths tally if it was present at the time of death via test, presumption or probability. They also include pneumonia and flu. We've also had about 3% inflation due to false positive tests. If that number holds, roughly 147,000 people have been counted when they never had it. There have also been areas that included presumed infections where people that had been exposed are counted as COVID positive in absence of an actual test. The end result is we know quite a few people have had the virus, but we have no idea how many. There's no way to go back in time and be more accurate. www.medtechdive.com/news/fda-warns-of-false-positives-with-bd-coronavirus-diagnostic/581115/#:~:text=Dive%20Brief%3A,the%20company%20were%20false%20positives. www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/tech_notes.htm
Silly boy.
Covid-19 mostly kills by weakening the lungs to the point where pneumonia is a given.
So if you exclude pneumonia then you are ignoring a large portion of Covid-19 caused deaths.
Typical.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2020 1:28:39 GMT
How else to explain ours and Brazil's complete failures compared to countries that were proactive in taking steps to mitigate the spread? It's not a deep logic dive. Chile, Sweden, Italy, Spain, Belgium, UK, Peru. All have worse deaths per capita from COVID compared to both Brazil and the US.. Why? I mean “how else could it be explained” if not the executive branch of government? Derp? How are they doing on the Covid curve compared to us? |
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Post by phillip on Aug 10, 2020 2:37:22 GMT
We’re 8th in the world in that department using the same criteria. So, regardless of which one you prioritize, we’re way above average. Which slaps down Archie’s “doubts.” Do you think quality of current government (and specifically just the executive branch) is the most decisive factor in determining how a country’s population will be impacted by the coronavirus?
Trump is the one with the "I alone can fix it" viewpoint of Executive Power. Maybe he was wrong?
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Post by phillip on Aug 10, 2020 2:44:53 GMT
Our numbers are inflated. The CDC is including COVID-19 as cause of death in their provisional deaths tally if it was present at the time of death via test, presumption or probability. They also include pneumonia and flu. We've also had about 3% inflation due to false positive tests. If that number holds, roughly 147,000 people have been counted when they never had it. There have also been areas that included presumed infections where people that had been exposed are counted as COVID positive in absence of an actual test. The end result is we know quite a few people have had the virus, but we have no idea how many. There's no way to go back in time and be more accurate. www.medtechdive.com/news/fda-warns-of-false-positives-with-bd-coronavirus-diagnostic/581115/#:~:text=Dive%20Brief%3A,the%20company%20were%20false%20positives. www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/tech_notes.htm
Silly boy.
Covid-19 mostly kills by weakening the lungs to the point where pneumonia is a given.
So if you exclude pneumonia then you are ignoring a large portion of Covid-19 caused deaths.
Typical.
Pneumonia is a big word for the everyday Trumper.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2020 12:56:47 GMT
Our numbers are inflated. The CDC is including COVID-19 as cause of death in their provisional deaths tally if it was present at the time of death via test, presumption or probability. They also include pneumonia and flu. We've also had about 3% inflation due to false positive tests. If that number holds, roughly 147,000 people have been counted when they never had it. There have also been areas that included presumed infections where people that had been exposed are counted as COVID positive in absence of an actual test. The end result is we know quite a few people have had the virus, but we have no idea how many. There's no way to go back in time and be more accurate. www.medtechdive.com/news/fda-warns-of-false-positives-with-bd-coronavirus-diagnostic/581115/#:~:text=Dive%20Brief%3A,the%20company%20were%20false%20positives. www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/tech_notes.htm
Silly boy.
Covid-19 mostly kills by weakening the lungs to the point where pneumonia is a given.
So if you exclude pneumonia then you are ignoring a large portion of Covid-19 caused deaths.
Typical.
But not all pneumonia cases are COVID 19. This is simple logic. The CDC is allowing flu and pneumonia to be counted as COVID even if it is not confirmed via a test. Their reasoning is that some of the symptoms are similar so COVID might be confused for the others. So, again, our numbers are inflated because we are adding suspected COVID cases that haven't been confirmed via test. |
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Post by Fiddler on Aug 10, 2020 14:52:43 GMT
Using ksu logic HIV/AIDS numbers are HUGELY inflated ..
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Post by limey² on Aug 10, 2020 15:29:51 GMT
“The world is laughing at us.” Wasn’t true when originally said but valid now. Since 2016. |
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Post by limey² on Aug 10, 2020 15:35:02 GMT
We’re 8th in the world in that department using the same criteria. So, regardless of which one you prioritize, we’re way above average. Which slaps down Archie’s “doubts.” Do you think quality of current government (and specifically just the executive branch) is the most decisive factor in determining how a country’s population will be impacted by the coronavirus? Good question. I'd suggest that this is one of the rare occasions when leadership, rather than management, is needed. From the UK, the US looks great; but only because you make our buffoon in chief look less bad. Leadership would have included telling hard truths, and offering difficult alternatives. Neither your clown nor our buffoon were up to the task. Behavioural norms can be modified by leadership, clarity of message, a sense of unity. Yes, I think a strong, intelligent administration can be central to this. |
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