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Post by Mercy for All on Apr 29, 2024 22:17:32 GMT
History is written by the victors. Do you think the Egyptians would record that? Are you aware of the Bronze Age civilization collapse?
Yeah .. That's it ..
Best archeological evidence says that they weren't in Egypt.. Israelites had a Canaanite origin.. Then what good is Faith if you demand evidence.. Right?
The "best archeological evidence" also says that the Israelites modelled their worship paraphernalia after Egyptian models. So...which is it?
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Post by sokpupet on Apr 29, 2024 22:26:59 GMT
This, for the greater part, explains the successful fusion of church and state. The fusion of church and state was not accomplished through repetition, nutrition and sleep deprivation, loud music, and emotional manipulation. Read what I wrote again. I stand by it.
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Post by sokpupet on Apr 29, 2024 22:30:10 GMT
Muslims & Evangelicals both readily forgive deceit if it suits their agenda. That was my main point. There are probably more religions that could be included; but this started from reading about taqiyya.
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Post by HolyMoly on Apr 29, 2024 23:12:41 GMT
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Post by Mercy for All on Apr 29, 2024 23:25:46 GMT
The fusion of church and state was not accomplished through repetition, nutrition and sleep deprivation, loud music, and emotional manipulation. Read what I wrote again. I stand by it. Saying something doesn’t make it true. Have you studied any history?
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Post by DaveJavu on Apr 29, 2024 23:26:00 GMT
This, for the greater part, explains the successful fusion of church and state. The fusion of church and state was not accomplished through repetition, nutrition and sleep deprivation, loud music, and emotional manipulation. You don't need that when you can work from early childhood with the help of the parents plus peer pressure and a shaming of the ones not abiding by the rules. Christians have been doing it for two millennia.
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Post by DaveJavu on Apr 29, 2024 23:26:34 GMT
Read what I wrote again. I stand by it. Saying something doesn’t make it true. Have you studied any history? Have you?
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Post by sokpupet on Apr 29, 2024 23:27:40 GMT
Read what I wrote again. I stand by it. Saying something doesn’t make it true. Have you studied any history? Yes. It makes it my opinion based on what I’ve read and studied. You are free to disagree.
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Post by Mercy for All on Apr 29, 2024 23:28:55 GMT
If the primary case against the Exodus is the number of people, then it’s not a strong argument. Numbers in ancient Hebrew texts are strong on symbolism, with what we read as the “thousands” number actually signifying numbers of leaders.
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Post by DaveJavu on Apr 29, 2024 23:29:35 GMT
Yeah .. That's it ..
Best archeological evidence says that they weren't in Egypt.. Israelites had a Canaanite origin.. Then what good is Faith if you demand evidence.. Right?
The "best archeological evidence" also says that the Israelites modelled their worship paraphernalia after Egyptian models. So...which is it? That's a lie. The Israelites modelled their culture after the ones that were their masters, IE the caanites.
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Post by Mercy for All on Apr 29, 2024 23:30:23 GMT
The fusion of church and state was not accomplished through repetition, nutrition and sleep deprivation, loud music, and emotional manipulation. You don't need that when you can work from early childhood with the help of the parents plus peer pressure and a shaming of the ones not abiding by the rules. Christians have been doing it for two millennia. Have you studied medieval history? The Roman Catholic Church certainly attempted to accumulate and leverage temporal political power, but it’s not like all of Europe just “went along with it.”
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Post by Mercy for All on Apr 29, 2024 23:31:31 GMT
The "best archeological evidence" also says that the Israelites modelled their worship paraphernalia after Egyptian models. So...which is it? That's a lie. The Israelites modelled their culture after the ones that were their masters, IE the caanites. So all the scholars who claimed Egyptian origin for worship influence were lying? Fabricating it? I’m talking specifically about the utensils, the Ark, etc.
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Post by DaveJavu on Apr 29, 2024 23:33:00 GMT
You don't need that when you can work from early childhood with the help of the parents plus peer pressure and a shaming of the ones not abiding by the rules. Christians have been doing it for two millennia. Have you studied medieval history? The Roman Catholic Church certainly attempted to accumulate and leverage temporal political power, but it’s not like all of Europe just “went along with it.” Enough of it went along with it to make the pope the most powerful despote in history.
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Post by Odysseus on Apr 29, 2024 23:34:50 GMT
LNF has a Religion section.
I move this thread be moved to the Religion section.
Anyone disagree?
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Post by DaveJavu on Apr 29, 2024 23:35:31 GMT
That's a lie. The Israelites modelled their culture after the ones that were their masters, IE the caanites. So all the scholars who claimed Egyptian origin for worship influence were lying? Fabricating it? I’m talking specifically about the utensils, the Ark, etc. Of course people have been lying for millennia in the name of religion. The true believers even when they know they're lying which is rarely the case think deception is ok when it helps the Faith.
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Post by sokpupet on Apr 29, 2024 23:36:25 GMT
LNF has a Religion section. I move this thread be moved to the Religion section. Anyone disagree? Fine by me.
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Post by DaveJavu on Apr 29, 2024 23:37:23 GMT
LNF has a Religion section. I move this thread be moved to the Religion section. Anyone disagree? Give it a rest will you?
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Post by Odysseus on Apr 29, 2024 23:39:50 GMT
LNF has a Religion section. I move this thread be moved to the Religion section. Anyone disagree? Give it a rest will you?
Nope.
I move this thread be moved to the Religion section.
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Post by Mercy for All on Apr 30, 2024 0:06:31 GMT
Saying something doesn’t make it true. Have you studied any history? Have you? Yes, some. Enough to know that not every pope enjoyed and leveraged the kind of power you are implying. Consider this snapshot: www.britannica.com/biography/Saint-Leo-III
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Post by Mercy for All on Apr 30, 2024 0:08:23 GMT
Saying something doesn’t make it true. Have you studied any history? Yes. It makes it my opinion based on what I’ve read and studied. You are free to disagree. There is no evidence that “brainwashing techniques” were used “fuse church and state.” Of course, I can’t prove a negative. But you can provide evidence to support your contention.
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