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Post by Mercy for All on Apr 30, 2024 13:44:02 GMT
Serious yawn. Do you have any insults that a grown-up might find offensive? I cannot take that one seriously. Freon
I also find Greebnurt to be very immature.
Glad I'm not the only one.
I guess even Gaston has his Le Fou.
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Post by freonbale on Apr 30, 2024 14:30:23 GMT
I'm still waiting for you two to calm down. Freon Let's keep score here: 1) You claim to have only played the "asking the right question" game with me. Proven wrong. It wasn't too hard to find examples of you doing that to a few others. 2) You keep accusing me of responding according to "dogma." When pressed, the "dogma" equates to something like "believing that there is only one perspective on anything." Which is obviously and demonstrably not true. 3) You keep accusing me of weighing in on science while being completely unqualified. When pressed, you could offer no examples. 4) Now you're stuck with a deficient "scientific" justification for claiming that something could be its own opposite—and then refuse to acknowledge that you are running away from the question. What's your next play here? Let's not. I have no interest in beating you, Mercy, I find that to be childish. We have a disagreement here, and then there is the truth. It's that simple. You've brought up what you consider supporting arguments for your perspective, and I consider them inaccurate primarily due to lack of context. I've explained, for each one, why, but since you still disagree, that tells me that people who are incapable of understanding context, cannot be convinced, or trained, to do so. At least by me. Therefore, there is no reason to continue this. You will continue to not understand context, and I will continue to point out that you don't, and that your inability to understand the world, yourself, and the human condition, all tie back to that one factor. I will try to come up with better strategies to enlighten people like you, and I will practice those strategies ON you. And you will continue to think you've got a clue, and I am playing games. And the Earth will continue to spin. Sounds like Tuesday, to me. Freon
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Post by greebnurt on Apr 30, 2024 15:32:28 GMT
Fucking douche. Try acting like a normal person. Serious yawn. Do you have any insults that a grown-up might find offensive? I cannot take that one seriously. Freon You play word games ad nauseum. I refuse to take you seriously or treat you like an adult. Go spread some more covid. Sorry not sorry.
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Post by greebnurt on Apr 30, 2024 15:33:13 GMT
No, you play word games. You're just now being called out on it by everybody. Only to someone not very bright, would my words be construed as a game. Is that what you are acknowledging? That you're not too bright? Do you really think you should be telling us all that so clearly? Freon You're a really funny person. You don't mean to be, but you are.
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Post by greebnurt on Apr 30, 2024 15:34:54 GMT
I also find Greebnurt to be very immature.
Glad I'm not the only one.
Agree. When he first came here, I couldn't tell his political bent, purely because the maturity level was similar to the emotional far righties. Freon Yeah, because this is the type of political site one should take seriously.
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Post by Mercy for All on Apr 30, 2024 15:40:20 GMT
Let's keep score here: 1) You claim to have only played the "asking the right question" game with me. Proven wrong. It wasn't too hard to find examples of you doing that to a few others. 2) You keep accusing me of responding according to "dogma." When pressed, the "dogma" equates to something like "believing that there is only one perspective on anything." Which is obviously and demonstrably not true. 3) You keep accusing me of weighing in on science while being completely unqualified. When pressed, you could offer no examples. 4) Now you're stuck with a deficient "scientific" justification for claiming that something could be its own opposite—and then refuse to acknowledge that you are running away from the question. What's your next play here? Let's not. I have no interest in beating you, Mercy, I find that to be childish. We have a disagreement here, and then there is the truth. It's that simple. You've brought up what you consider supporting arguments for your perspective, and I consider them inaccurate primarily due to lack of context. I've explained, for each one, why, but since you still disagree, that tells me that people who are incapable of understanding context, cannot be convinced, or trained, to do so. At least by me. Therefore, there is no reason to continue this. You will continue to not understand context, and I will continue to point out that you don't, and that your inability to understand the world, yourself, and the human condition, all tie back to that one factor. I will try to come up with better strategies to enlighten people like you, and I will practice those strategies ON you. And you will continue to think you've got a clue, and I am playing games. And the Earth will continue to spin. Sounds like Tuesday, to me. Freon But you don't give explanation. Unsupported accusation is not explanation. Games.
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Post by freonbale on Apr 30, 2024 15:58:39 GMT
Serious yawn. Do you have any insults that a grown-up might find offensive? I cannot take that one seriously. Freon You play word games ad nauseum. I refuse to take you seriously or treat you like an adult. Go spread some more covid. Sorry not sorry. I've checked, and then double-checked, just to be sure, and turns out I'm fine with you not taking me seriously. Do you have anything meaningful you'd like to say? Your post basically says nothing. Freon
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Post by freonbale on Apr 30, 2024 16:00:41 GMT
Only to someone not very bright, would my words be construed as a game. Is that what you are acknowledging? That you're not too bright? Do you really think you should be telling us all that so clearly? Freon You're a really funny person. You don't mean to be, but you are. Are you serious? I'm ALWAYS joking in here. Just some of you can't seem to hear it. So I mean to be, and I appreciate you acknowledging that I am. Freon
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Post by freonbale on Apr 30, 2024 16:02:02 GMT
Agree. When he first came here, I couldn't tell his political bent, purely because the maturity level was similar to the emotional far righties. Freon Yeah, because this is the type of political site one should take seriously. Oh, is there only a single proper way to interface on this type of site? Please, elaborate, I'm sure we ALL want to know your wisdom on this. Freon
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Post by freonbale on Apr 30, 2024 16:02:44 GMT
Let's not. I have no interest in beating you, Mercy, I find that to be childish. We have a disagreement here, and then there is the truth. It's that simple. You've brought up what you consider supporting arguments for your perspective, and I consider them inaccurate primarily due to lack of context. I've explained, for each one, why, but since you still disagree, that tells me that people who are incapable of understanding context, cannot be convinced, or trained, to do so. At least by me. Therefore, there is no reason to continue this. You will continue to not understand context, and I will continue to point out that you don't, and that your inability to understand the world, yourself, and the human condition, all tie back to that one factor. I will try to come up with better strategies to enlighten people like you, and I will practice those strategies ON you. And you will continue to think you've got a clue, and I am playing games. And the Earth will continue to spin. Sounds like Tuesday, to me. Freon But you don't give explanation. Unsupported accusation is not explanation. Games. Ok. Thank you two for telling me how you feel. Freon
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Post by Mercy for All on Apr 30, 2024 17:05:57 GMT
But you don't give explanation. Unsupported accusation is not explanation. Games. Ok. Thank you two for telling me how you feel. Freon It's not how I feel. It's what I think.
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Post by freonbale on Apr 30, 2024 18:19:19 GMT
Ok. Thank you two for telling me how you feel. Freon It's not how I feel. It's what I think. You are not correcting me, Mercy, I said what I said because that's what I meant. You say truly naive things, like art and science are separate, because in your ignorance, you cannot see where they embrace and support each other like lovers. I cannot converse with someone who not only doesn't know the basics of our world, but cannot face the emotions of being 'wrong', to the point that they take pride in their ignorant world view. I want to know. I don't care if I'm wrong. My pride is in always SEEKING the truth, not whether I actually know it or not. Your pride is in believing you KNOW the truth, and therefore, you do not seek it, because if you ever found that your truth was inaccurate, it would destroy your pride. Freon
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Post by Lomelis on Apr 30, 2024 19:15:18 GMT
It's not how I feel. It's what I think. You are not correcting me, Mercy, I said what I said because that's what I meant. You say truly naive things, like art and science are separate, because in your ignorance, you cannot see where they embrace and support each other like lovers. I cannot converse with someone who not only doesn't know the basics of our world, but cannot face the emotions of being 'wrong', to the point that they take pride in their ignorant world view. I want to know. I don't care if I'm wrong. My pride is in always SEEKING the truth, not whether I actually know it or not. Your pride is in believing you KNOW the truth, and therefore, you do not seek it, because if you ever found that your truth was inaccurate, it would destroy your pride. Freon Blahahaha.
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Post by freonbale on Apr 30, 2024 19:34:33 GMT
You are not correcting me, Mercy, I said what I said because that's what I meant. You say truly naive things, like art and science are separate, because in your ignorance, you cannot see where they embrace and support each other like lovers. I cannot converse with someone who not only doesn't know the basics of our world, but cannot face the emotions of being 'wrong', to the point that they take pride in their ignorant world view. I want to know. I don't care if I'm wrong. My pride is in always SEEKING the truth, not whether I actually know it or not. Your pride is in believing you KNOW the truth, and therefore, you do not seek it, because if you ever found that your truth was inaccurate, it would destroy your pride. Freon Blahahaha. You see, Mercy for All, your people feel exactly as you do. Freon
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Post by Mercy for All on Apr 30, 2024 20:17:40 GMT
It's not how I feel. It's what I think. You are not correcting me, Mercy, I said what I said because that's what I meant. You say truly naive things, like art and science are separate, because in your ignorance, you cannot see where they embrace and support each other like lovers. I cannot converse with someone who not only doesn't know the basics of our world, but cannot face the emotions of being 'wrong', to the point that they take pride in their ignorant world view. I want to know. I don't care if I'm wrong. My pride is in always SEEKING the truth, not whether I actually know it or not. Your pride is in believing you KNOW the truth, and therefore, you do not seek it, because if you ever found that your truth was inaccurate, it would destroy your pride. Freon Except that it's just games. You've said you're always laughing while you're posting. It's just games. Everything, at some level, "embraces everything else." Art and science are hardly "equivalent." They certainly are...separate. If I'm doing some kind of appraisal of van Gogh's Starry Night, it's hardly a "scientific endeavour." Or would you argue that it is? And do you still insist that colour is only a function of wavelength?
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Post by Mercy for All on Apr 30, 2024 20:18:13 GMT
Blahahaha. You see, Mercy for All , your people feel exactly as you do. Freon "Your people." You're so tribalist. That kind of tribalism is part of what's wrong with the world.
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Post by freonbale on Apr 30, 2024 20:41:02 GMT
You are not correcting me, Mercy, I said what I said because that's what I meant. You say truly naive things, like art and science are separate, because in your ignorance, you cannot see where they embrace and support each other like lovers. I cannot converse with someone who not only doesn't know the basics of our world, but cannot face the emotions of being 'wrong', to the point that they take pride in their ignorant world view. I want to know. I don't care if I'm wrong. My pride is in always SEEKING the truth, not whether I actually know it or not. Your pride is in believing you KNOW the truth, and therefore, you do not seek it, because if you ever found that your truth was inaccurate, it would destroy your pride. Freon Except that it's just games. You've said you're always laughing while you're posting. It's just games. Everything, at some level, "embraces everything else." Art and science are hardly "equivalent." They certainly are...separate. If I'm doing some kind of appraisal of van Gogh's Starry Night, it's hardly a "scientific endeavour." Or would you argue that it is? And do you still insist that colour is only a function of wavelength? It seems rather pathetic, if you KNOW I'm playing games with you (I'm not), that you would continue conversing with me. I call bullshit. There is another reason, if you were honest with yourself about it. Art and science do not merely touch each other at some level, they are integral to each other. There is no art, without science. The painters of history made their own dyes, and coveted their chemistry so no others could compete with them. That theme has always been true, and is still true. One must understand the medium they are transforming into art, to be an artist, and that takes knowledge of science. The cutting edge of technology today, NFTs, AI, Blockchain, are all being leveraged by Artists. I never responded to your color question, and I'm finding it amusing how you are trying to make it seem like I have. Three, maybe four posts now, trying to corner me with the fantasy that I responded to you. YOU are playing games, Mercy. If I was, lol, you would never know. Freon
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Post by Mercy for All on Apr 30, 2024 20:44:24 GMT
Except that it's just games. You've said you're always laughing while you're posting. It's just games. Everything, at some level, "embraces everything else." Art and science are hardly "equivalent." They certainly are...separate. If I'm doing some kind of appraisal of van Gogh's Starry Night, it's hardly a "scientific endeavour." Or would you argue that it is? And do you still insist that colour is only a function of wavelength? It seems rather pathetic, if you KNOW I'm playing games with you (I'm not), that you would continue conversing with me. I call bullshit. There is another reason, if you were honest with yourself about it. Art and science do not merely touch each other at some level, they are integral to each other. There is no art, without science. The painters of history made their own dyes, and coveted their chemistry so no others could compete with them. That theme has always been true, and is still true. One must understand the medium they are transforming into art, to be an artist, and that takes knowledge of science. The cutting edge of technology today, NFTs, AI, Blockchain, are all being leveraged by Artists. I never responded to your color question, and I'm finding it amusing how you are trying to make it seem like I have. Three, maybe four posts now, trying to corner me with the fantasy that I responded to you. YOU are playing games, Mercy. If I was, lol, you would never know. Freon Well, you know, I keep hoping for honesty and meaningful conversation. As for "never responding to your color question"... You insist that purple is yellow. Purple CAN be yellow, depending on the filter over your eyes. And what a wonderful metaphor that is as well. Please stop trying to use science, you're REALLY bad at it. Freon I would encourage you to offer an example of when I “overstepped my bounds” on scientific knowledge. Please be specific. To what end, Mercy? Even your comments regarding purple and yellow light in this very thread, demonstrate the most basic understanding of physics. And that's barely high school level. As an experiment, I just asked my 15 year old the same question. I asked, 'where could yellow light be construed as purple, or vice versa', and his response was, 'on another planet, with a different color sun?'. Yeah, nailed it. Why didn't you? You think a high school training in science puts you anywhere even close to what a fully trained scientists knows, Mr. Dunning–Kruger? Freon Your 15-year-old son "nailed it." So...what exactly did he "nail"? Cue the prevarication and insults...and possibly a retreat.
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Post by freonbale on Apr 30, 2024 20:45:22 GMT
You see, Mercy for All , your people feel exactly as you do. Freon "Your people." You're so tribalist. That kind of tribalism is part of what's wrong with the world. Yes, clearly I should be imprisoned for my unique tribalist views. Thank you for your moral authoritativeness. Freon
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Post by Mercy for All on Apr 30, 2024 20:47:15 GMT
"Your people." You're so tribalist. That kind of tribalism is part of what's wrong with the world. Yes, clearly I should be imprisoned for my unique tribalist views. Thank you for your moral authoritativeness. Freon "Imprisoned"? Who even hinted at implying that? Weird. Even...paranoid. Or...just more games?
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