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Worship?
Apr 20, 2024 23:09:52 GMT
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Post by DaveJavu on Apr 20, 2024 23:09:52 GMT
How true, I've never seen you attack anybody... I believe also that there's snow boarding in hell, to use a colloquialism. See? Good thing I stuck around. This is no surprise. We know that a few things are wasted on you |
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Worship?
Apr 21, 2024 13:37:28 GMT
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Post by Monster Man on Apr 21, 2024 13:37:28 GMT
Projection. I am the one actually using the meanings of the words here and every time I pin you down on that you have to pivot to attacking me instead. I provided a dictionary definition of the English word and the etymology of the Greek origin of that word. You just said, "it doesn't mean that." No, that isn’t all you did nor was that my only response. Your latest lame attempt at distortion was to try to conflate worship with attention, ignoring they are two different things with different meanings. The issue isn’t that you didn’t provide definitions, it’s that you are ignoring them. |
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Post by Mercy for All on Apr 22, 2024 16:42:50 GMT
I provided a dictionary definition of the English word and the etymology of the Greek origin of that word. You just said, "it doesn't mean that." No, that isn’t all you did nor was that my only response. Your latest lame attempt at distortion was to try to conflate worship with attention, ignoring they are two different things with different meanings. The issue isn’t that you didn’t provide definitions, it’s that you are ignoring them. I'm not "conflating worship with attention." I'm saying that "giving attention" is an aspect of worship. How you you describe worship...specifically? |
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Post by Monster Man on Apr 22, 2024 16:52:20 GMT
No, that isn’t all you did nor was that my only response. Your latest lame attempt at distortion was to try to conflate worship with attention, ignoring they are two different things with different meanings. The issue isn’t that you didn’t provide definitions, it’s that you are ignoring them. I'm not "conflating worship with attention." I'm saying that "giving attention" is an aspect of worship. How you you describe worship...specifically? What was your point in bringing up what someone pays attention to? We are not having a discussion around the description of worship, it was about your absurdly wrong notion that everyone is a worshipper. |
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Post by Mercy for All on Apr 22, 2024 16:53:33 GMT
I'm not "conflating worship with attention." I'm saying that "giving attention" is an aspect of worship. How you you describe worship...specifically? What was your point in bringing up what someone pays attention to? We are not having a discussion around the description of worship, it was about your absurdly wrong notion that everyone is a worshipper. K, so what's your definition of "worship"? Specifically? How can you claim my notion is "absurdly wrong" without defining it? |
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Post by Monster Man on Apr 22, 2024 17:10:48 GMT
What was your point in bringing up what someone pays attention to? We are not having a discussion around the description of worship, it was about your absurdly wrong notion that everyone is a worshipper. K, so what's your definition of "worship"? Specifically? How can you claim my notion is "absurdly wrong" without defining it? There is no my definition of worship. You already provided a definition which clearly outlined it was in regards to God. I have repeatedly pointed this out to you here... but now you are going to pretend like this is day one of the discussion. |
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Worship?
Apr 22, 2024 17:22:26 GMT
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Post by Mercy for All on Apr 22, 2024 17:22:26 GMT
K, so what's your definition of "worship"? Specifically? How can you claim my notion is "absurdly wrong" without defining it? There is no my definition of worship. You already provided a definition which clearly outlined it was in regards to God. I have repeatedly pointed this out to you here... but now you are going to pretend like this is day one of the discussion. 1. reverent honor and homage paid to God or a sacred personage, or to any object regarded as sacred. OR… Any object regarded as sacred. What does sacred mean? |
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Post by Monster Man on Apr 22, 2024 17:55:04 GMT
There is no my definition of worship. You already provided a definition which clearly outlined it was in regards to God. I have repeatedly pointed this out to you here... but now you are going to pretend like this is day one of the discussion. 1. reverent honor and homage paid to God or a sacred personage, or to any object regarded as sacred. OR… Any object regarded as sacred. What does sacred mean? Seriously? I already asked you to do this, because sacred is STILL in reference to God, or religion. |
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Apr 22, 2024 19:30:18 GMT
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Post by Mercy for All on Apr 22, 2024 19:30:18 GMT
1. reverent honor and homage paid to God or a sacred personage, or to any object regarded as sacred. OR… Any object regarded as sacred. What does sacred mean? Seriously? I already asked you to do this, because sacred is STILL in reference to God, or religion. What is considered sacred. Some people consider the Constitution sacred. Or are you suggesting that whatever anyone considers sacred is actually YHWH? Are you suggesting that idols, considered sacred, no longer exist in our culture? Because you don’t see little statues, idolatry has disappeared? |
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Post by Monster Man on Apr 22, 2024 19:41:53 GMT
What is considered sacred. Some people consider the Constitution sacred. Here we go again with figures of speech and your argument isn't that everyone else thinks something is sacred or not... you are claiming they are Worshipping whether they agree or not as you have been pushing it on to Dave in this very thread. If I go out to eat and have an amazing dessert, and say this piece of cake is simply divine! Do you think I mean the cake literally came from God in the kitchen or am I just exaggerating for effect? No, there are many religions and takes on god and the supernatural... Christianity has no hold on the term Worship or Sacred. And AGAIN, it is you presuming everyone else is Worshipping here, regardless of whatever they consider. No. But not everything anyone does that doesn't believe in the Christian God is idolatry either. [/quote] |
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Apr 23, 2024 0:40:33 GMT
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Post by Mercy for All on Apr 23, 2024 0:40:33 GMT
What is considered sacred. Some people consider the Constitution sacred. Here we go again with figures of speech and your argument isn't that everyone else thinks something is sacred or not... you are claiming they are Worshipping whether they agree or not as you have been pushing it on to Dave in this very thread. If I go out to eat and have an amazing dessert, and say this piece of cake is simply divine! Do you think I mean the cake literally came from God in the kitchen or am I just exaggerating for effect? No, there are many religions and takes on god and the supernatural... Christianity has no hold on the term Worship or Sacred. And AGAIN, it is you presuming everyone else is Worshipping here, regardless of whatever they consider. No. But not everything anyone does that doesn't believe in the Christian God is idolatry either. [/quote] Your starting point is that “not everyone worships.” Thus, you cannot imagine that idolatry exists among those who don’t recognize it in themselves. Frankly, I find your position bizarre. It seems self-evident to me that people wrap their lives around things like pleasure, money, power, etc. That is worship. Worship is not just singing and bowing. |
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