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Post by demos on Oct 8, 2020 14:27:22 GMT
SourceSo, the good news is that the troop draw down will continue. The bad news is that there doesn't seem to be any real coordination between the President and his administration about how or when to accomplish that.
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Post by MojoJojo on Oct 8, 2020 21:31:07 GMT
Home by Christmas!?
Campaign promise or marching orders?
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Post by demos on Oct 8, 2020 21:33:26 GMT
^ Doubt these are marching orders.
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Post by demos on Oct 12, 2020 15:24:07 GMT
Excerpt from Gen. Milley interview... Source
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Post by MojoJojo on Oct 13, 2020 11:38:03 GMT
Sorry Demos, just throwing out (up) a "what if.."...
What if, Biden wins the GE. I'm curious to see if he continues the wind down, halts it or, escalates. I suspect he'll defer to the brass and we'll maintain, possibly even escalate. One of the very few spoken policies of Trump (stupid wars) I supported and he's dragged his feet maintaining the status quo for four years so the rhetoric doesn't match the actions and the Soleimani assassination was incredibly stupid.
My options aren't too good this cycle on the "foreign wars" front. :/
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Post by Maestro on Oct 13, 2020 11:44:45 GMT
My options aren't too good this cycle on the "foreign wars" front. :/ I agree. Biden's one saving grace in this area is that Biden apparently opposed then Secretary Clinton when it came to adding troops to Afghanistan, intervening in Libya and aiding Syrian rebels. He also called to wait for more info before going after bin Laden. He at least seems to be slightly more wary of going into battle, guns blazing than some in his party. That may or may not mean much if/when he's in the big chair. It's a lot easier to offer advice than it is to act on it.
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Post by demos on Oct 13, 2020 13:50:00 GMT
Sorry Demos, just throwing out (up) a "what if.."... What if, Biden wins the GE. I'm curious to see if he continues the wind down, halts it or, escalates. I suspect he'll defer to the brass and we'll maintain, possibly even escalate. He's saying some of the "right" things on the campaign trail, but when you start looking at the people around him (Susan Rice), I think you're right that we'll be maintaining the status quo in several conflicts. The one that might change is Yemen (since there is already support for ending that in Congress).
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Post by demos on Oct 13, 2020 14:16:32 GMT
Here's why we'll likely not be withdrawing any time soon... SourceThis is essentially what Milley is talking about when he references a conditions based withdrawal. Personally, I don't have any illusions that the Taliban won't eventually gain - or attempt to gain - control over all of Afghanistan. We just can't stay there forever in order to try and prevent that.
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Post by demos on Oct 13, 2020 18:13:15 GMT
Related to Mojo's question... Source
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Post by rabbitreborn on Oct 13, 2020 18:15:21 GMT
Sorry Demos, just throwing out (up) a "what if.."... What if, Biden wins the GE. I'm curious to see if he continues the wind down, halts it or, escalates. I suspect he'll defer to the brass and we'll maintain, possibly even escalate. He's saying some of the "right" things on the campaign trail, but when you start looking at the people around him (Susan Rice), I think you're right that we'll be maintaining the status quo in several conflicts. The one that might change is Yemen (since there is already support for ending that in Congress). Have we "placated the Saudis" enough, then? Hope so.
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Post by demos on Oct 13, 2020 18:22:49 GMT
Have we "placated the Saudis" enough, then? Hope so. One would think.
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Post by demos on Oct 16, 2020 15:15:08 GMT
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Post by demos on Oct 20, 2020 15:38:25 GMT
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Post by demos on Oct 21, 2020 15:09:48 GMT
SourceAlright then, the other NATO members can stay, and they can pay for it.
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Post by demos on Nov 11, 2020 19:23:15 GMT
SourceI'm skeptical this guy is there to actually implement an accelerated withdrawal from Afghanistan. The existence of people like this in Trump's orbit just further bolsters - imo - my argument that there were plenty of restraint advocates around Trump and he instead chose Cabinet members and advisors who supported hegemony, because he has no real, principled commitment to restraint (much less IR realism).
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Post by demos on Nov 15, 2020 16:21:23 GMT
SourceAn important caveat in Miller's letter: " As we prepare for the future. we remain committed to finishing the war that Al Qaida brought to our shores in 2001. This war isn't over. We are on the verge of defeating Al Qaida and its associates, but we must avoid our past strategic error of failing to see the fight through to the finish." That sounds kinda like what Biden has laid out; mentioned in post #8.
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Post by demos on Nov 16, 2020 21:10:42 GMT
SourceBegin planning to do what you were already supposedly planning to do back in October? Ok. And then the Turtle decides to chime in... SourceWe've been there for 19 years. The Taliban has been steadily retaking territory this entire time; our continued military presence is not preventing that. When would Mitch like us to exit? What's the criteria?
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Post by demos on Nov 16, 2020 22:44:27 GMT
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Post by MojoJojo on Nov 17, 2020 0:12:50 GMT
A real shame he waited until the very end to push for this.
I fully support it.
The MIC may not support it but you're the CIC, get 'em all out let Joe deal with the inevitable cries for (((MOAR))) troops.
We're bound to fuck over some allies but is it all that unecpected? Bonus points, Joe gets an easy out...Trump did it, not his fault. LOL
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Post by Maestro on Nov 17, 2020 0:16:20 GMT
SourceAlright then, the other NATO members can stay, and they can pay for it. Given that it’s been two decades, I think I can also rule out a “rushed, early exit.”
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