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Post by thor on Nov 14, 2023 0:33:22 GMT
Ohio state Republican lawmakers are once again trying to overturn the will of the people, after a devastating loss on abortion rights. Ohioans overwhelmingly chose to enshrine abortion protections in the state Constitution earlier this week. Republicans had tried multiple times to block the referendum, called Issue 1, but they were handily defeated every time. So on Friday, the state GOP unveiled a new tactic: stopping the courts from allowing the new amendment to take effect. “To prevent mischief by pro-abortion courts with Issue 1, Ohio legislators will consider removing jurisdiction from the judiciary over this ambiguous ballot initiative,” Republican state representatives said in a press release. “The Ohio legislature alone will consider what, if any, modifications to make to existing laws based on public hearings and input from legal experts on both sides.”
This^ is how stupid the left is. The earlier blockage of the Ohio ban on abortion by the un-elected, unaccountable courts was far more egregious than the efforts of these Republicans who are representing the people that elected them and who are directly accountable to their constituents, unlike the robed oligarchs that have blocked abortion restrictions across the country. Evidently, Stupid Boy, they don't represent the will of the people. They were crushed by the opposition. Did you miss that, dumbass? More evidence, as if we needed any, that the American Fascist Party doesn't want to represent - they want to rule.
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Post by Paleocon on Nov 14, 2023 14:13:22 GMT
This^ is how stupid the left is. The earlier blockage of the Ohio ban on abortion by the un-elected, unaccountable courts was far more egregious than the efforts of these Republicans who are representing the people that elected them and who are directly accountable to their constituents, unlike the robed oligarchs that have blocked abortion restrictions across the country. Evidently, Stupid Boy, they don't represent the will of the people. They were crushed by the opposition. Did you miss that, dumbass? More evidence, as if we needed any, that the American Fascist Party doesn't want to represent - they want to rule. Did you miss the fact that we're not a democracy, which means that the direct will of the mob is not how we are governed. No, as a liberal, you're too f*cking stupid and lack the integrity to care about such things. You WANT the mob to rule....law of the jungle for leftist animals.
You talk of "the people" as if they're a monolith instead of a diversity of opinions that all need to be represented. If we follow your pussy logic, the "will of the people" is that the U.S. House is controlled by the Republicans so that means that the Democrats in the House are supposed to roll over and show their bellies.
How'd you get to be this stupid, dumbass?
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Post by thecitizen on Nov 14, 2023 14:23:15 GMT
Evidently, Stupid Boy, they don't represent the will of the people. They were crushed by the opposition. Did you miss that, dumbass? More evidence, as if we needed any, that the American Fascist Party doesn't want to represent - they want to rule. Did you miss the fact that we're not a democracy, which means that the direct will of the mob is not how we are governed. No, as a liberal, you're too f*cking stupid and lack the integrity to care about such things. You WANT the mob to rule....law of the jungle for leftist animals.
You talk of "the people" as if they're a monolith instead of a diversity of opinions that all need to be represented. If we follow your pussy logic, the "will of the people" is that the U.S. House is controlled by the Republicans so that means that the Democrats in the House are supposed to roll over and show their bellies.
How'd you get to be this stupid, dumbass? You are really stupid. Hitler would love you. We are a democracy, idiot. We are a representative democracy which means we elect who we want to represent us. That means all the people who present us must come together and compromise and make concessions for all of the people. That means nobody gets everything they want. To think you should get everything you want is a very childish way of thinking. Mob rule is majority rule you stupid idiot
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Post by petep on Nov 14, 2023 14:32:27 GMT
Did you miss the fact that we're not a democracy, which means that the direct will of the mob is not how we are governed. No, as a liberal, you're too f*cking stupid and lack the integrity to care about such things. You WANT the mob to rule....law of the jungle for leftist animals.
You talk of "the people" as if they're a monolith instead of a diversity of opinions that all need to be represented. If we follow your pussy logic, the "will of the people" is that the U.S. House is controlled by the Republicans so that means that the Democrats in the House are supposed to roll over and show their bellies.
How'd you get to be this stupid, dumbass? You are really stupid. Hitler would love you. We are a democracy, idiot. We are a representative democracy which means we elect who we want to represent us. That means all the people who present us must come together and compromise and make concessions for all of the people. That means nobody gets everything they want. To think you should get everything you want is a very childish way of thinking. Mob rule is majority rule you stupid idiot We are a republic. The constitutional rule of law trumps what the majority want. It’s why Biden’s attack on free speech was overturned. Just because he is president doesn’t mean he can take away our first amendment rights.
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Post by thecitizen on Nov 14, 2023 14:40:15 GMT
You are really stupid. Hitler would love you. We are a democracy, idiot. We are a representative democracy which means we elect who we want to represent us. That means all the people who present us must come together and compromise and make concessions for all of the people. That means nobody gets everything they want. To think you should get everything you want is a very childish way of thinking. Mob rule is majority rule you stupid idiot We are a republic. The constitutional rule of law trumps what the majority want. It’s why Biden’s attack on free speech was overturned. Just because he is president doesn’t mean he can take away our first amendment rights. No, stupid. We are a democratic republic. Look it up and learn. In some republics, the representatives are appointed by the leader of the country. In our republic, we elect our leaders and representatives. The only branch in the federal government that is appointed is the judiciary branch with the approval of the senate. In many states such as Ohio, their judges are elected as well. Ohio GOP wants to take away the power of the people, that would mean that the people would not have any control. That is not a democracy. You must have fail civics
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Post by petep on Nov 14, 2023 14:56:13 GMT
We are a republic. The constitutional rule of law trumps what the majority want. It’s why Biden’s attack on free speech was overturned. Just because he is president doesn’t mean he can take away our first amendment rights. No, stupid. We are a democratic republic. Look it up and learn. In some republics, the representatives are appointed by the leader of the country. In our republic, we elect our leaders and representatives. The only branch in the federal government that is appointed is the judiciary branch with the approval of the senate. In many states such as Ohio, their judges are elected as well. Ohio GOP wants to take away the power of the people, that would mean that the people would not have any control. That is not a democracy. You must have fail civics Civics 101. We are a constitutional republic. Representatives are elected via a democratic process. Wads, please stop doubling down on stupid. How many times does this have to happen.
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Post by Paleocon on Nov 14, 2023 15:22:21 GMT
Did you miss the fact that we're not a democracy, which means that the direct will of the mob is not how we are governed. No, as a liberal, you're too f*cking stupid and lack the integrity to care about such things. You WANT the mob to rule....law of the jungle for leftist animals.
You talk of "the people" as if they're a monolith instead of a diversity of opinions that all need to be represented. If we follow your pussy logic, the "will of the people" is that the U.S. House is controlled by the Republicans so that means that the Democrats in the House are supposed to roll over and show their bellies.
How'd you get to be this stupid, dumbass? You are really stupid. Hitler would love you. We are a democracy, idiot. We are a representative democracy which means we elect who we want to represent us. That means all the people who present us must come together and compromise and make concessions for all of the people. That means nobody gets everything they want. To think you should get everything you want is a very childish way of thinking. Mob rule is majority rule you stupid idiot You have got to be the dumbest poster that has ever infested any discussion forum. We have never been a democracy, nor are we a "democratic republic". We have no direct role in making laws or passing legislation. And the fact that "nobody gets everything they want" doesn't mean that the opposition is supposed to give up and not take every legal step to oppose what the majority has imposed.
And there is no requirement that representatives "must come together and compromise and make concessions"; in fact, this republic was designed to make it difficult to get anything done when there is no consensus. The hurdles were put in place by the Founders to insure that the system was as far from a democracy as possible.
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Post by thecitizen on Nov 14, 2023 15:50:14 GMT
No, stupid. We are a democratic republic. Look it up and learn. In some republics, the representatives are appointed by the leader of the country. In our republic, we elect our leaders and representatives. The only branch in the federal government that is appointed is the judiciary branch with the approval of the senate. In many states such as Ohio, their judges are elected as well. Ohio GOP wants to take away the power of the people, that would mean that the people would not have any control. That is not a democracy. You must have fail civics Civics 101. We are a constitutional republic. Representatives are elected via a democratic process. Wads, please stop doubling down on stupid. How many times does this have to happen. LOL, what is it that I said that you don’t understand You repeat what I said and then called me stupid. I just can’t believe you. Now what the fuck do you mean by a constitutional republic. Paleocon says we are not a democracy. I said we were. You are so dead set on following along with your comrades that you can’t even think. You are just as much an idiot as he is
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Post by thecitizen on Nov 14, 2023 15:51:44 GMT
You are really stupid. Hitler would love you. We are a democracy, idiot. We are a representative democracy which means we elect who we want to represent us. That means all the people who present us must come together and compromise and make concessions for all of the people. That means nobody gets everything they want. To think you should get everything you want is a very childish way of thinking. Mob rule is majority rule you stupid idiot You have got to be the dumbest poster that has ever infested any discussion forum. We have never been a democracy, nor are we a "democratic republic". We have no direct role in making laws or passing legislation. And the fact that "nobody gets everything they want" doesn't mean that the opposition is supposed to give up and not take every legal step to oppose what the majority has imposed.
And there is no requirement that representatives "must come together and compromise and make concessions"; in fact, this republic was designed to make it difficult to get anything done when there is no consensus. The hurdles were put in place by the Founders to insure that the system was as far from a democracy as possible.
Jesus, why even argue with an idiot that does not understand what a representative democracy is
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Post by Fiddler on Nov 14, 2023 16:15:37 GMT
Evidently, Stupid Boy, they don't represent the will of the people. They were crushed by the opposition. Did you miss that, dumbass? More evidence, as if we needed any, that the American Fascist Party doesn't want to represent - they want to rule. Did you miss the fact that we're not a democracy, which means that the direct will of the mob is not how we are governed. No, as a liberal, you're too f*cking stupid and lack the integrity to care about such things. You WANT the mob to rule....law of the jungle for leftist animals.
You talk of "the people" as if they're a monolith instead of a diversity of opinions that all need to be represented. If we follow your pussy logic, the "will of the people" is that the U.S. House is controlled by the Republicans so that means that the Democrats in the House are supposed to roll over and show their bellies.
How'd you get to be this stupid, dumbass? Perfect.. I knew that if any of the hardcore misogynists would be triggered into saying something stupid it would be Lom and you .. and I got both. .. but rest assured .. as usual.. yours is the most ignorant.. the snowflakiest ... the whiniest ..
Let's hear you blubber about it again .. "They made us vote.. We lost.. Democracy sucks.. "
As you treasonous rioters demonstrated at the capitol .. no one other than you bottom dwellers wants mob rule.. That's why it was put up for a vote you stupid bastard.
You fuckers lost.. Body autonomy won.
The vote was about the right to “make and carry out one’s own reproductive decisions,” precisely the kind of individual freedom despised by yourself and the other right-wing douchebags ..
When you idiots asked the right-wing activist SCOTUS to slaughter your cash cow, I predicted .. (hell everyone outside your bubble predicted ) the backlash would result in strengthening individual rights.. codify the right to healthcare .. Your monumental fuckup continues to make things better for women.. How unfortunate for you..
Hurry and crawl back under your rock where it's safe ..
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Post by thor on Nov 14, 2023 19:51:57 GMT
Evidently, Stupid Boy, they don't represent the will of the people. They were crushed by the opposition. Did you miss that, dumbass? More evidence, as if we needed any, that the American Fascist Party doesn't want to represent - they want to rule. Did you miss the fact that we're not a democracy, which means that the direct will of the mob is not how we are governed. No, as a liberal, you're too f*cking stupid and lack the integrity to care about such things. You WANT the mob to rule....law of the jungle for leftist animals.
You talk of "the people" as if they're a monolith instead of a diversity of opinions that all need to be represented. If we follow your pussy logic, the "will of the people" is that the U.S. House is controlled by the Republicans so that means that the Democrats in the House are supposed to roll over and show their bellies.
How'd you get to be this stupid, dumbass? Poor Stupid Boy. You are desperately trying to ignore that the people of Ohio spoke and sent a clear message. It is the duty of their representatives to see their will enacted. That is what a representative democracy is, you retarded fuck. Your Mom and Dad were Brother and Sister, weren't they?
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Post by thor on Nov 14, 2023 19:55:38 GMT
You are really stupid. Hitler would love you. We are a democracy, idiot. We are a representative democracy which means we elect who we want to represent us. That means all the people who present us must come together and compromise and make concessions for all of the people. That means nobody gets everything they want. To think you should get everything you want is a very childish way of thinking. Mob rule is majority rule you stupid idiot We are a republic. The constitutional rule of law trumps what the majority want. It’s why Biden’s attack on free speech was overturned. Just because he is president doesn’t mean he can take away our first amendment rights. kONsTitUShuNaL sKOlAr PP. More evidence, as if we needed any, that the American Fascist Party doesn't want to represent - they want to rule.
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Post by petep on Nov 14, 2023 20:47:30 GMT
We are a republic. The constitutional rule of law trumps what the majority want. It’s why Biden’s attack on free speech was overturned. Just because he is president doesn’t mean he can take away our first amendment rights. kONsTitUShuNaL sKOlAr PP. More evidence, as if we needed any, that the American Fascist Party doesn't want to represent - they want to rule. Which crappy public school did you attend
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Post by thecitizen on Nov 14, 2023 21:05:11 GMT
kONsTitUShuNaL sKOlAr PP. More evidence, as if we needed any, that the American Fascist Party doesn't want to represent - they want to rule. Which crappy public school did you attend Obviously not the one you went to. You can’t even comprehend what you post
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Post by petep on Nov 14, 2023 22:42:03 GMT
Which crappy public school did you attend Obviously not the one you went to. You can’t even comprehend what you post Wads does it ever occur to you that perhaps you need to find a forum your own speed. Just how many times can one person be shown to be wrong. On so many topics.
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Post by thecitizen on Nov 14, 2023 22:55:07 GMT
Obviously not the one you went to. You can’t even comprehend what you post Wads does it ever occur to you that perhaps you need to find a forum your own speed. Just how many times can one person be shown to be wrong. On so many topics. So only you and Paleocon think we are not a democracy. Well I guess that is what you think and you are telling me that this forum is not my speed? You are such a joke. Now respond to my post where I responded to your constitutional democracy thing and tell me where I said anything different from what you said
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Post by Lomelis on Nov 15, 2023 20:38:43 GMT
Lol you thought it was an email and don't know how to copy and paste into the address bar. How did that feel when you realized you goofed? You are a dumb idiot I wasn't the one who thought it was an email and couldn't figure out how to copy and paste.
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Post by thecitizen on Nov 15, 2023 20:52:59 GMT
I wasn't the one who thought it was an email and couldn't figure out how to copy and paste. I was not the one who couldn’t figure out how to link
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Post by petep on Nov 15, 2023 20:55:17 GMT
Wads does it ever occur to you that perhaps you need to find a forum your own speed. Just how many times can one person be shown to be wrong. On so many topics. So only you and Paleocon think we are not a democracy. Well I guess that is what you think and you are telling me that this forum is not my speed? You are such a joke. Now respond to my post where I responded to your constitutional democracy thing and tell me where I said anything different from what you said We are a constitutional republic. Not your made up term
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Post by thecitizen on Nov 15, 2023 23:55:22 GMT
So only you and Paleocon think we are not a democracy. Well I guess that is what you think and you are telling me that this forum is not my speed? You are such a joke. Now respond to my post where I responded to your constitutional democracy thing and tell me where I said anything different from what you said We are a constitutional republic. Not your made up term So what is a constitutional demoncracy and how is that different from a democratic republic or a representative democracy? BTW I did not make up that term, you idiot. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representative_democracy
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