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Post by Fiddler on Sept 1, 2020 14:43:16 GMT
In total, the data we've collected is crap.
What you consistently ignore is that THAT^ is by design. It is part of Trump's need for chaos ...
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Post by rabbitreborn on Sept 1, 2020 15:17:57 GMT
Cases? Cool. Testing early on, when NY and NJ were getting slammed, was far lower than it is today. Millions of New Yorkers had it and were never tested. Why not measure deaths instead? |
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Post by Lomelis on Sept 1, 2020 15:47:44 GMT
Cases? Cool. Testing early on, when NY and NJ were getting slammed, was far lower than it is today. Millions of New Yorkers had it and were never tested. Why not measure deaths instead? Because then it doesn't look as bad and looks like there may have been a massive over reaction? I mean after the brilliant ones figured out it was inappropriate to send infected old people back to the nursing homes and that it was basically medical malpractice to hook everyone up to ventilators. |
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Post by Fiddler on Sept 1, 2020 16:49:13 GMT
Why not measure deaths instead?  |
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Post by petep on Sept 1, 2020 16:58:13 GMT
Oh boy. This is getting interesting. One side believes it benefits from crushing the economy and now its coming out overall deaths have not increased much at all over predicted pre covid levels.
Can’t really spin this data.
Guess they’d sell all of us out, to gain political power.
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Post by Greg55_99 on Sept 1, 2020 17:00:47 GMT
Oh boy. This is getting interesting. One side believes it benefits from crushing the economy and now its coming out overall deaths have not increased much at all over predicted pre covid levels. Can’t really spin this data. Guess they’d sell all of us out, to gain political power.
… and Herman Cain is still dead.
Greg
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Post by petep on Sept 1, 2020 17:10:34 GMT
There is some number that shutting down the entire us economy may make sense. I don’t know the number, but I know what it is not. Especially based on the profile of those who did die.
What is coming out strong and clear is the solutions did not match the problem. Not even close
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Post by thor on Sept 1, 2020 17:24:45 GMT
Oh boy. This is getting interesting. One side believes it benefits from crushing the economy and now its coming out overall deaths have not increased much at all over predicted pre covid levels. Can’t really spin this data. Guess they’d sell all of us out, to gain political power.
… and Herman Cain is still dead.
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Post by Greg55_99 on Sept 1, 2020 17:26:47 GMT
There is some number that shutting down the entire us economy may make sense. I don’t know the number, but I know what it is not. Especially based on the profile of those who did die. What is coming out strong and clear is the solutions did not match the problem. Not even close
TRANSLATION: "If I'm NOT in the group most likely to die, everything should be as normal."
Trouble is... You don't know what group you're in until you get it.
Greg
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Post by petep on Sept 1, 2020 17:29:10 GMT
I find the intolerance of blacks to other blacks who are moderates or conservatives and successful quite fascinating. Why is that. Why is a german Cain, or Allen west, or king, or Ben Carson hated so much.
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Post by petep on Sept 1, 2020 17:31:29 GMT
There is some number that shutting down the entire us economy may make sense. I don’t know the number, but I know what it is not. Especially based on the profile of those who did die. What is coming out strong and clear is the solutions did not match the problem. Not even close
TRANSLATION: "If I'm NOT in the group most likely to die, everything should be as normal."
Trouble is... You don't know what group you're in until you get it.
Greg
You do realize this data exists greg right. Like in makneof the 100 plus people who died, almost all over 80, almost all in nursing homes, almost all with prior conditions, almost all over 75. As many have died in car accidents. On paper, driving or being in a car poses far more of a threat to the average person. |
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Post by Greg55_99 on Sept 1, 2020 17:31:52 GMT
I find the intolerance of blacks to other blacks who are moderates or conservatives and successful quite fascinating. Why is that. Why is a german Cain, or Allen west, or king, or Ben Carson hated so much.
Well then. Why do you hate Hillary Clinton so much? I find THAT quite fascinating. She is White y'know. Why such intolerance?
Greg
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Post by Greg55_99 on Sept 1, 2020 17:32:57 GMT
TRANSLATION: "If I'm NOT in the group most likely to die, everything should be as normal."
Trouble is... You don't know what group you're in until you get it.
Greg
You do realize this data exists greg right. Like in makneof the 100 plus people who died, almost all over 80, almost all in nursing homes, almost all with prior conditions, almost all over 75. As many have died in car accidents. On paper, driving or being in a car poses far more of a threat to the average person.
How do YOU think your body will respond to the virus IF you get it? You sure you'll be OK?
Can you tell me?
Greg
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Post by petep on Sept 1, 2020 17:41:59 GMT
I tested positive for antibodies. Not sure if I ever had it. Never had symptoms.
My niece tested negative for it, tested positive for antibodies, then later tested negative for antibodies.
I’d have to take actions based on the data available.
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Post by Greg55_99 on Sept 1, 2020 17:46:08 GMT
I tested positive for antibodies. Not sure if I ever had it. Never had symptoms. My niece tested negative for it, tested positive for antibodies, then later tested negative for antibodies. I’d have to take actions based on the data available.
Can you say for sure that you did NOT give it to someone else at some point?
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Post by Odysseus on Sept 1, 2020 17:49:29 GMT
I tested positive for antibodies. Not sure if I ever had it. Never had symptoms. My niece tested negative for it, tested positive for antibodies, then later tested negative for antibodies. I’d have to take actions based on the data available.
Can you say for sure that you did NOT give it to someone else at some point?
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I doubt he cares if he is/was a superspreader.
It's very Trumpian.
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Post by william on Sept 1, 2020 17:59:23 GMT
TRANSLATION: "If I'm NOT in the group most likely to die, everything should be as normal."
Trouble is... You don't know what group you're in until you get it.
Greg
You do realize this data exists greg right. Like in makneof the 100 plus people who died, almost all over 80, almost all in nursing homes, almost all with prior conditions, almost all over 75. As many have died in car accidents. On paper, driving or being in a car poses far more of a threat to the average person. But are they really car deaths since most of them had underlying conditions? Fucking right wingers will spin anything. |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Sept 1, 2020 18:06:21 GMT
You do realize this data exists greg right. Like in makneof the 100 plus people who died, almost all over 80, almost all in nursing homes, almost all with prior conditions, almost all over 75. As many have died in car accidents. On paper, driving or being in a car poses far more of a threat to the average person.
How do YOU think your body will respond to the virus IF you get it? You sure you'll be OK?
Can you tell me?
Greg
There is risk in life, Greg. Time is scarce to all of us, and it's up to us to manage the risk of day-to-day life. Continued biological existence at 100% certainty while holed up on house arrest is not preferable to me than 99.99% certainty of existence while doing what I want and what brings me joy. |
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Post by Greg55_99 on Sept 1, 2020 18:33:21 GMT
How do YOU think your body will respond to the virus IF you get it? You sure you'll be OK?
Can you tell me?
Greg
There is risk in life, Greg. Time is scarce to all of us, and it's up to us to manage the risk of day-to-day life. Continued biological existence at 100% certainty while holed up on house arrest is not preferable to me than 99.99% certainty of existence while doing what I want and what brings me joy.
… and Herman Cain is still dead....
Greg
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Post by phillip on Sept 1, 2020 18:35:19 GMT
There is risk in life, Greg. Time is scarce to all of us, and it's up to us to manage the risk of day-to-day life. Continued biological existence at 100% certainty while holed up on house arrest is not preferable to me than 99.99% certainty of existence while doing what I want and what brings me joy.
… and Herman Cain is still dead....
Greg
But he still communicates to us through his Twitter account. Shucky Ducky! |
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