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Post by demos on Apr 22, 2022 19:24:50 GMT
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Post by petep on Apr 22, 2022 19:28:30 GMT
talks - ukraine has been decimated...
whats to talk about...
that the russians will decrease the number of women they rape before killing them?
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Post by demos on Apr 22, 2022 19:34:44 GMT
Ending the conflict. How do you think it's going to end (especially since neither party is capable of overwhelmingly defeating the other)? |
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Post by demos on Apr 25, 2022 16:14:13 GMT
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Post by demos on Apr 26, 2022 17:45:03 GMT
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Post by demos on Apr 26, 2022 19:15:29 GMT
SourceSimilar to NATO membership, EU membership cannot be negotiated unless the current members unanimously agree.
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Post by petep on Apr 26, 2022 19:19:54 GMT
I'd imagine the EU has something already in their charter regarding how a country may become a member...
why these foreign countries are getting press regarding their opinions is absurd...its up to ukraine and the eu what they will do...
now, my history is a bit fuzzy...what happened to austria in the late 1930's...and why are we listening to them now?
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Post by demos on Apr 26, 2022 19:25:01 GMT
I'd imagine the EU has something already in their charter regarding how a country may become a member... They do; see here. Particularly relevant: "Membership negotiations cannot start until all EU governments agree, in the form of a unanimous decision by the EU Council, on a framework or mandate for negotiations with the candidate country." Yeah, why would an EU member, such as Austria, have any say in what the EU does. Curious that. More relevant: what happened to Austria after WW2. Because they're an EU member expressing they won't support Ukraine's membership, even though Austria has been proposed in negotiations as a model for Ukrainian neutrality? Seems relevant. |
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Post by petep on Apr 26, 2022 19:37:45 GMT
well i suppose its a non issue then...they have a process and they will either be admitted or not...
whats bothersome is any country making a decision based on what russia thinks...at this point, who really cares what a country who is intentionally targeting and killing civilians thinks - they have destroyed another nation, for no reason...the russians are scum at this point...and they will have that status for many years to come...
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Post by wyattstorch on Apr 26, 2022 19:42:06 GMT
at this point, who really cares what a country who is intentionally targeting and killing civilians thinks
Anyone who has an interest in lessening the amount of death and destruction going forward.
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Post by demos on Apr 26, 2022 19:43:29 GMT
well i suppose its a non issue then...they have a process and they will either be admitted or not... Looking like not. They're making decisions based on their own interests ( just like Israel). Austria has also provided assistance to Ukraine; is that a decision based on what Russia thinks? |
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Post by petep on Apr 26, 2022 19:46:14 GMT
sounds like the best solution is over time rid the world of a country hell bent on killing neighbors....or at least weaken them so much thru isolation they can fight with sticks and stones...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2022 19:49:21 GMT
sounds like the best solution is over time rid the world of a country hell bent on killing neighbors....or at least weaken them so much thru isolation they can fight with sticks and stones... You couldn't do it when they were communists. What makes you think you'll succeed now that they're capitalists? |
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Post by demos on Apr 27, 2022 15:11:35 GMT
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Post by limey² on Apr 27, 2022 21:19:10 GMT
at this point, who really cares what a country who is intentionally targeting and killing civilians thinks
Anyone who has an interest in lessening the amount of death and destruction going forward.
Isn't that a remarkably simplistic view? |
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Post by limey² on Apr 27, 2022 21:21:20 GMT
sounds like the best solution is over time rid the world of a country hell bent on killing neighbors....or at least weaken them so much thru isolation they can fight with sticks and stones... You couldn't do it when they were communists. What makes you think you'll succeed now that they're capitalists? They're not capitalists. If they were capitalists, 1. They'd have a shit ton more money 2. They'd have made damn' sure the State had a decent military, to protect and enhance the above. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2022 22:50:13 GMT
You couldn't do it when they were communists. What makes you think you'll succeed now that they're capitalists? They're not capitalists. If they were capitalists, 1. They'd have a shit ton more money 2. They'd have made damn' sure the State had a decent military, to protect and enhance the above. What are they, then? |
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Post by limey² on Apr 27, 2022 23:16:59 GMT
They're not capitalists. If they were capitalists, 1. They'd have a shit ton more money 2. They'd have made damn' sure the State had a decent military, to protect and enhance the above. What are they, then? Some vile spawn of gangsterism, authoritarian hardman and corporate robber baron. Let's not give it a name. |
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Post by wyattstorch on Apr 27, 2022 23:39:33 GMT
Anyone who has an interest in lessening the amount of death and destruction going forward.
Isn't that a remarkably simplistic view?
No, the one I was responding to is.
In fantasy-land, we can ignore people - or nations...though, in fantasy-land there would be "no countries" as John Lennon explained to us - we don't like and all is well. In the real world, where those we don't like are actively killing and have the power to kill a lot more, we can't be so simplistic. We have to consider what those that do evil are thinking to better respond to that evil.
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