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Post by Lomelis on Nov 17, 2024 21:48:34 GMT
In the last year alone it is estimated that Russia has taken over 900 square miles. apnews.com/article/ukraine-russia-war-f7f56e494df1dbbcdec1853001796c45The following article was released on November 1. Since then Russia has made even more gains. Wrap up of the last few months: "Russia has captured 1,146 square kilometers (442 square miles) in Ukraine since Aug. 6, about a quarter more than in the first seven months of the year, the media outlet said. The Russian military also advanced by 200 square kilometers (77 square miles) over the past week, Bloomberg reported.
As Russia makes gains on the battlefield, Ukrainian officials are growing more despondent about the future course of the war, according to one official close to President Volodymyr Zelensky's office who spoke to Bloomberg.
Meanwhile, according to Estonian intelligence, Moscow has seized 150 square kilometers (58 square miles) in the Donetsk sector of the front line over the past week."kyivindependent.com/russia-seizes-more-territory-over-past-week-than-at-any-time-in-2024-during-same-period-bloomberg-reports/You obviously have no idea what's going on over there.  Poor Shitbag. Forced to...  Lmao. You poor dumb brain damaged imbecile. -You- said they've only captured 14 square kilometers. Blahahahahahahahahaha They've captured over 1100 square kilometers since last August alone. Why do you do this to yourself?  Owned again x infinity |
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Post by Lomelis on Nov 17, 2024 21:51:43 GMT
Lol. They never actually made it to Kyiv to perform a direct land assault. By -your- rational any sort of attack on a country's city implies the attacker intends to take that city. That's -your- thought process dumbo. Goddam you are fucking stupid. They tried to seize the airport next to Kyiv via vertical envelopment, you dumb fuck. Do you think their intent was to remain there, dipshit? Why do you think they would want to seize a fucking airhead, dipshit? Remember, I was a paratrooper, and we did this shit all the time in training. To put it in terms you might be more familiar with (because your are a brain-dead moron) - do you think Marines are ever going to make a direct assault over the beach if they don't have to, or will they use their Ospreys? Why do you think it might be a good idea to have an intact airport, dumbshit? If you want me to keep schooling your ass, please, continue. Goddam, you're dumb. And I'm the one with a TBI. I command you to respond, Shitbag. Your fwagile widdle ego demands it. I don't know why you are arguing against yourself you idiot. Hahaha it was -your- logic and you're too stupid to realize it. And BTW you were never a paratrooper. Call of Duty doesn't count. Lmao. You really are this stupid. |
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Post by thor on Nov 17, 2024 22:04:05 GMT
Goddam you are fucking stupid. They tried to seize the airport next to Kyiv via vertical envelopment, you dumb fuck. Do you think their intent was to remain there, dipshit? Why do you think they would want to seize a fucking airhead, dipshit? Remember, I was a paratrooper, and we did this shit all the time in training. To put it in terms you might be more familiar with (because your are a brain-dead moron) - do you think Marines are ever going to make a direct assault over the beach if they don't have to, or will they use their Ospreys? Why do you think it might be a good idea to have an intact airport, dumbshit? If you want me to keep schooling your ass, please, continue. Goddam, you're dumb. And I'm the one with a TBI. I command you to respond, Shitbag. Your fwagile widdle ego demands it. I don't know why you are arguing against yourself you idiot. Hahaha it was -your- logic and you're too stupid to realize it. And BTW you were never a paratrooper. Call of Duty doesn't count. Lmao. You really are this stupid. Ass kicked into orbit, Shitbag sounds the retreat...  |
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Post by Lomelis on Nov 17, 2024 22:09:18 GMT
I don't know why you are arguing against yourself you idiot. Hahaha it was -your- logic and you're too stupid to realize it. And BTW you were never a paratrooper. Call of Duty doesn't count. Lmao. You really are this stupid. Ass kicked into orbit, Shitbag sounds the retreat... Nope I'm still waiting to know where you got that 14 square kilometer thing from. Talk about being wrong, holy shit. This was a bigger fail than your thinking that fluoride in the drinking water prevented cholera fail thread that you ran away from. Blahahaha Once again, why do you do this to yourself? |
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Post by petep on Nov 17, 2024 22:13:00 GMT
Nope I'm still waiting to know where you got that 14 square kilometer thing from. Talk about being wrong, holy shit. This was a bigger fail than your thinking that fluoride in the drinking water prevented cholera fail thread that you ran away from. Blahahaha Once again, why do you do this to yourself? Why do you engage with that moron? |
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Post by Lomelis on Nov 17, 2024 22:19:57 GMT
Nope I'm still waiting to know where you got that 14 square kilometer thing from. Talk about being wrong, holy shit. This was a bigger fail than your thinking that fluoride in the drinking water prevented cholera fail thread that you ran away from. Blahahaha Once again, why do you do this to yourself? Why do you engage with that moron? He desires to be a fool, to be mocked and laughed at. I'm a humanitarian at heart so it is my duty to give him what he wants and craves, negative attention and derision. He will respond to this with animal porn in order to be laughed at even more. |
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Post by thor on Nov 17, 2024 22:39:08 GMT
Nope I'm still waiting to know where you got that 14 square kilometer thing from. Talk about being wrong, holy shit. This was a bigger fail than your thinking that fluoride in the drinking water prevented cholera fail thread that you ran away from. Blahahaha Once again, why do you do this to yourself? Check the source you cited, dumbass. How many Marines went without sue to your stupidity and incompetence, Shitbag? |
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Post by thor on Nov 17, 2024 22:40:13 GMT
Nope I'm still waiting to know where you got that 14 square kilometer thing from. Talk about being wrong, holy shit. This was a bigger fail than your thinking that fluoride in the drinking water prevented cholera fail thread that you ran away from. Blahahaha Once again, why do you do this to yourself? Why do you engage with that moron? Do you want some of this ass-kicking, PP? Do you want me to rub your nose in your droppings again? |
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Post by thor on Nov 17, 2024 22:42:27 GMT
Why do you engage with that moron? He desires to be a fool, to be mocked and laughed at. I'm a humanitarian at heart so it is my duty to give him what he wants and craves, negative attention and derision. He will respond to this with animal porn in order to be laughed at even more. I am still waiting for you to answer my questions, Shitbag. You ran away once you got rekt. Gonna come back? |
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Post by RWB on Nov 17, 2024 23:27:00 GMT
ROFLMAO @ the little brain damaged retarded boy Thor who's actually kicking his own ass BUT is so damn stupid he thinks he's kicking other people's asses 😒
Wish I knew which mental hospital he was in id call the doctor and tell him he needs to up Thor's meds before he hurts himself.
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Post by thor on Nov 18, 2024 0:20:40 GMT
ROFLMAO @ the little brain damaged retarded boy Thor who's actually kicking his own ass BUT is so damn stupid he thinks he's kicking other people's asses 😒 Wish I knew which mental hospital he was in id call the doctor and tell him he needs to up Thor's meds before he hurts himself.  |
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Post by RWB on Nov 18, 2024 1:27:27 GMT
ROFLMAO @ the little brain damaged retarded boy Thor who's actually kicking his own ass BUT is so damn stupid he thinks he's kicking other people's asses 😒 Wish I knew which mental hospital he was in id call the doctor and tell him he needs to up Thor's meds before he hurts himself. STILL kicking your own ass 😁 You are such a pathetic Looooooser 🙄 |
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Post by MojoJojo on Nov 18, 2024 12:57:33 GMT
What, exactly, was so bad about Biden's approach to Russia's invasion of Ukraie? It was predictable and weak. It was a riding the fence approach providing enough weaponry and intelligence to keep them from being completely overrun but not providing enough to effectively push Russia out early in the war. There hasn't been enough pressure on either side to come to the table to negotiate and there has been an unwillingness to negotiate directly with Russia about Ukrainian entry into NATO. I'm not sure if people are really paying attention to what's going on over there right now but Ukrainian is losing along the eastern lines. Russia is steadily taking eastern Ukraine a mile at a time and Ukraine has a massive manpower shortage. It can't get enough people to fight. www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-took-196-square-km-ukraine-last-week-agentstvo-media-says-2024-10-29/deepstatemap.live/en#8/49.2552575/35.5847168The map can be used to watch how Russia has been picking Ukraine apart. Again, what should Biden have done differently? The libertarian faction thinks he should have let Ukraine stand, then fall, on its own, to save lives. The left and old right believe he should have given MORE arms, sooner, and with less restrictions. Both with the intention of ending the war sooner. |
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Post by petep on Nov 18, 2024 15:09:06 GMT
It was predictable and weak. It was a riding the fence approach providing enough weaponry and intelligence to keep them from being completely overrun but not providing enough to effectively push Russia out early in the war. There hasn't been enough pressure on either side to come to the table to negotiate and there has been an unwillingness to negotiate directly with Russia about Ukrainian entry into NATO. I'm not sure if people are really paying attention to what's going on over there right now but Ukrainian is losing along the eastern lines. Russia is steadily taking eastern Ukraine a mile at a time and Ukraine has a massive manpower shortage. It can't get enough people to fight. www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-took-196-square-km-ukraine-last-week-agentstvo-media-says-2024-10-29/deepstatemap.live/en#8/49.2552575/35.5847168The map can be used to watch how Russia has been picking Ukraine apart. Again, what should Biden have done differently? The libertarian faction thinks he should have let Ukraine stand, then fall, on its own, to save lives. The left and old right believe he should have given MORE arms, sooner, and with less restrictions. Both with the intention of ending the war sooner. The real question is what should the electorate have done differently. Not put weak leaders like Biden Harris in the White House. Biden Harris are simply ineffective. “They” could not have done anything different. It’s akin to putting me in as quarterback at the Super Bowl and after a loss asking what I could have done different. The only answer is not put me in the game. Does everyone believe it just happened that Putin waited till they were in the White House. |
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Post by demos on Nov 18, 2024 16:30:06 GMT
Again, what should Biden have done differently? Should've tried negotiations in November/December 2021. Could've made an offer to take NATO membership off the table (that's still not happening despite all the talk), and let him keep Crimea and either let Donbas become a breakaway region or let it be annexed (Ukraine was never getting that back; they'd been trying for ~8 years before 2022).
For example, something that was suggested in November 2021:
"Where the United States does have significant leverage is with Ukraine — and this leverage is largely untapped. Rather than focusing only on coercing Russia, the Biden administration should also push Kyiv to take steps toward implementing its obligations under the Minsk II agreement, which Ukraine has shown little desire to do since the deal was brokered six years ago. Ukrainian steps toward complying with the agreement, flawed as it is, might actually invite de-escalation from Russia and reinvigorate the languishing peace process... But the bargain has never been realized on the ground. Ukraine has resisted entreaties to implement the political provisions of Minsk II. For example, rather than adopt a new constitution codifying new powers for Russia’s Donbas allies, the Ukrainian parliament passed a constitutional amendment enshrining the strategic goal of NATO and EU membership. Russia has taken advantage of Ukraine’s foot-dragging to justify its ongoing refusal to fulfill its side of the bargain." ( Source)
Maybe that works, or maybe it doesn't. We'll never know because it wasn't tried.
Instead, EVERYONE has led Ukraine along into a war no one else wanted to fight while covering their own asses. New story from Bloomberg this morning:
France’s LNG Imports From Russia Hit Record With German Help
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Post by limey² on Nov 18, 2024 18:08:37 GMT
That would be good news for all. Certainly much better than the Biden Harris just ignore problems approach. Well, they've finally made moves to give Ukraine flexibility over long range weapon use. Hopefully they'll get some good hardware transferred physically before January. Once the equipment is there it can be used. |
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Post by limey² on Nov 18, 2024 18:11:31 GMT
Is the Kursk Oblast the Russian capitol? 'Mainland Russia'? So. Fucking. Dumb. I want my tax dollars back. So your argument is that it only applies to capitals? If one warring nation attacks the capital of their opponent nation, that means they want to control and take possession of the capital. But other parts of the country? That’s different somehow. You can attack other parts for other reasons. You should write a book. Thor on War. Or the Art of Thor. Something boldly titled to reflect your military genius. The original attack by Russia intended to overthrow Ukraine's government and install a Belorussian-style Moscow puppet autocracy. I'm sure you'd be keen to avoid a similar situation in your country, and would fight against its imposition..... erm..... |
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Post by demos on Nov 18, 2024 18:22:29 GMT
The original attack by Russia intended to overthrow Ukraine's government and install a Belorussian-style Moscow puppet autocracy. When I made this argument 2 years ago, I was told I was an idiot. |
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Post by limey² on Nov 18, 2024 18:47:39 GMT
The original attack by Russia intended to overthrow Ukraine's government and install a Belorussian-style Moscow puppet autocracy. When I made this argument 2 years ago, I was told I was an idiot. Not by me, you weren't. It was very obvious |
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Post by Lomelis on Nov 18, 2024 19:40:29 GMT
Nope I'm still waiting to know where you got that 14 square kilometer thing from. Talk about being wrong, holy shit. This was a bigger fail than your thinking that fluoride in the drinking water prevented cholera fail thread that you ran away from. Blahahaha Once again, why do you do this to yourself? Check the source you cited, dumbass. How many Marines went without sue to your stupidity and incompetence, Shitbag? None of my sources say anything about 14 square kilometers. It's like you just pulled this random number from your ass and are too stupid to let it go. The fact is Russia has taken way more land than that, even subtracting Crimea and the Donbass region that they've basically controlled since 2014. |
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