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Post by freonbale on Nov 12, 2024 5:30:21 GMT
It is. AND he is. You are confusing the person for the system. Are you willing to state your position on this issue? Or just pick at others, as always... Freon I’ve stated my position quite clearly in the thread I linked to and in other the threads on this same topic. Feel free to actually read my posts. And lol at “you’re confusing the person for the system.” Go back and read that thread where I talk about fascism as a system and you want to focus solely on Trump. Very relevant Paxton quote in there for you. Would be a good refresher for you. The restate your position here. Mine is clear. Freon |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Nov 12, 2024 11:03:27 GMT
Trump in his first term actually pardoned or commuted the sentence of a lot of people who wouldn’t fit into your model. How do you deal with that? More fascism? Why do you keep trying to change the subject? I didn’t. In the informal trial of Trump pardoning or commuting sentences, and whether or not he would be a fascist releasing only his violent buddies and supporters, it’s important to consider who he pardoned or commuted the sentence of previously. |
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Post by archie on Nov 12, 2024 14:45:45 GMT
Jail birds get "get out of jail free cards"... It's like your "republic" has become a fucking game of monopoly... Dave. That is what Harris did more than once. She wanted to defund the police, and many times let serious criminals out of jail. Look up her history but look out. It might give you an upset stomach. |
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Post by queshank on Nov 12, 2024 15:02:02 GMT
Yeah. Has to come after a year of the people in that House rhetorically and in some cases forcibly dividing and enraging the People who own said House.
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Very specific and weird.
It's like you want things to be fascist that only you think are fascist and so can't provide a reasonable definition.
Yeah. Exactly as specific and weird as your only wanting things to be fascist that you think are fascist and so can't provide a reasonable definition.
There's something to that ... I think you're on to something ... like the problem with the word "fascism" as it's used in today's lexicon.
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Post by Fiddler on Nov 12, 2024 15:02:18 GMT
"The police used to watch over the people. Now they're watching the people." - Me since my first day posting on LNF in 2002.
Yes Q.. The Democrats forced Right-Wing media to exaggerate crime statistics to help Republicans implement "Tough on Crime" policies .. Isn't it obvious. ?
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Post by queshank on Nov 12, 2024 15:04:22 GMT
"The police used to watch over the people. Now they're watching the people." - Me since my first day posting on LNF in 2002.
Yes Q.. The Democrats forced Right-Wing media to exaggerate crime statistics to help Republicans implement "Tough on Crime" policies .. Isn't it obvious. ?
LOL
Crime goes way up.
Crime slips down a notch in part because of states no longer calling crimes crimes.
"Crime is on the way down!"
And you fell for it.
My best friend who lives out in California is ecstatic that over Newsom's objections, the people of California overwhelmingly voted to call theft of under $1000 a crime again.
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Post by runswithscissors on Nov 12, 2024 15:07:17 GMT
Jail birds get "get out of jail free cards"... It's like your "republic" has become a fucking game of monopoly... I'm sure keeping out of jail was one of Trumpy's main motives for running again. He was lucky enough to have a lot of help from a number of judges. Yep. If he hadn't won, he'd be going to jail sometime in 2025. He'd have been tried and sentenced on the attempts to overturn the last election and for his taking and refusing to return (for a year and a half) highly classified government documents. Today is the day the little shithead Air National Guard from MA who copied and posted classified government documents on some internet chat forum. The government is asking for 17 years. I wonder if trump will pardon the kid. |
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Post by runswithscissors on Nov 12, 2024 15:12:50 GMT
And since this is all about presidential pardons, consider that Ivanka and Jared's kids are in a very exclusive club.....both their grandfathers are convicted felons. One got a pardon, the other got a conviction and two freebies.
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Post by Fiddler on Nov 12, 2024 15:14:11 GMT
Those Jan 6 insurrectionists, even though found guilty of breaking our laws, will be set free. They will NOT be found innocent. They will simply be let free, even though they are guilty of crime, because a criminal now is in charge. It will not stop there. If he will set them free, he cares more for loyalty than for the law. And that means that YOU care about loyalty over the law. A step closer to fascism, exactly as we've been saying.  |
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Post by demos on Nov 12, 2024 15:16:45 GMT
The restate your position here. Mine is clear. Freon We've had the discussion already in the thread I linked. Just go back and read what I wrote.
And since you now want to focus on systems, you can look at this post specifically (using your own checklist).
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Post by Fiddler on Nov 12, 2024 15:34:10 GMT
Yes Q.. The Democrats forced Right-Wing media to exaggerate crime statistics to help Republicans implement "Tough on Crime" policies .. Isn't it obvious. ?
Crime slips down a notch in part because of states no longer calling crimes crimes.
Oh good grief.. . Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining ..
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Post by freonbale on Nov 12, 2024 15:39:53 GMT
Why do you keep trying to change the subject? I didn’t. In the informal trial of Trump pardoning or commuting sentences, and whether or not he would be a fascist releasing only his violent buddies and supporters, it’s important to consider who he pardoned or commuted the sentence of previously. You did. I am focusing on an upcoming, clearly fascist, choice Donald is going to make. You are looking at his past choices. I am willing to discuss those AFTER the topic this entire thread is about is addressed. Do you support the release of his Jan 6 loyalist criminals? Freon |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Nov 12, 2024 15:47:39 GMT
I didn’t. In the informal trial of Trump pardoning or commuting sentences, and whether or not he would be a fascist releasing only his violent buddies and supporters, it’s important to consider who he pardoned or commuted the sentence of previously. You did. I am focusing on an upcoming, clearly fascist, choice Donald is going to make. You are looking at his past choices. I am willing to discuss those AFTER the topic this entire thread is about is addressed. Do you support the release of his Jan 6 loyalist criminals? Freon The ones who were non violent and were convicted of trespassing on public grounds and have already been incarcerated for a disproportionate amount of time, yes. |
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Post by freonbale on Nov 12, 2024 15:49:23 GMT
You did. I am focusing on an upcoming, clearly fascist, choice Donald is going to make. You are looking at his past choices. I am willing to discuss those AFTER the topic this entire thread is about is addressed. Do you support the release of his Jan 6 loyalist criminals? Freon The ones who were non violent and were convicted of trespassing on public grounds and have already been incarcerated for a disproportionate amount of time, yes. He'll release them all. Count on it. And you will say NOTHING. Count on that too. Freon |
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Post by queshank on Nov 12, 2024 15:51:12 GMT
Crime goes way up.
Crime slips down a notch in part because of states no longer calling crimes crimes.
Oh good grief.. . Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining ..
/eyeroll
Speaking of pissing on legs.
We're talking about crime ... you set the context ... and you try to slip in a "violent crime" change of topic.
You really are a Democrat through and through ain'tcha?
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Post by freonbale on Nov 12, 2024 15:52:51 GMT
The restate your position here. Mine is clear. Freon We've had the discussion already in the thread I linked. Just go back and read what I wrote.
And since you now want to focus on systems, you can look at this post specifically (using your own checklist).
You are misunderstanding me. I want to know if you support Donald. I want to know if you are part of the mess this country is about to have happen to it. Clear? Freon |
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Post by demos on Nov 12, 2024 15:53:58 GMT
I want to know if you support Donald. I want to know if you are part of the mess this country is about to have happen to it. Clear? Freon Really? How many times has this been answered on this forum (and its previous iterations)?
Start paying attention man.
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Post by queshank on Nov 12, 2024 15:55:20 GMT
I want to know if you support Donald. I want to know if you are part of the mess this country is about to have happen to it. Clear? Freon Really? How many times has this been answered on this forum (and its previous iterations)?
Start paying attention man.
He can't. It's what makes him so eminently "freon."
He thinks I just became a Trump supporter last week roflmao
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Post by freonbale on Nov 12, 2024 15:56:09 GMT
I want to know if you support Donald. I want to know if you are part of the mess this country is about to have happen to it. Clear? Freon Really? How many times has this been answered on this forum (and its previous iterations)?
Start paying attention man.
We don't talk much, so I don't read your posts much. In that same post telling me to pay more attention to you, you could have simply answered the question. Freon |
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Post by demos on Nov 12, 2024 16:03:15 GMT
We don't talk much, so I don't read your posts much. In that same post telling me to pay more attention to you, you could have simply answered the question. Freon You have asked me this question of me multiple times, and I've answered it.
But just to reiterate one more time. No, I don't support Trump. I have voted against him 5 times: 2 times in primary elections, and 3 times in general elections.
Bookmark this so you won't have to ask again.
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