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Post by stugatze on Nov 8, 2024 17:58:59 GMT
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Post by Fiddler on Nov 9, 2024 0:19:22 GMT
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Post by Maestro on Nov 9, 2024 0:35:31 GMT
You're...bragging about this? Earlier this year he was praising Biden for being more experienced than Trump and said he would prefer he stay in office over Trump. Putin almost certainly crafts his quotes about our politics in such a way as to create maximum dissention and controversy among our political factions. It benefits him when we're yelling at each other and he's fully aware that his praise for one party's officer is a foul stench to the opposition. It's best not to pay a great deal of attention to these attempted manipulations. |
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Post by petep on Nov 9, 2024 1:12:48 GMT
Sure would be nice if Russia Ukraine were back in the 2019 era.
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Post by stugatze on Nov 9, 2024 6:25:36 GMT
Sure would be nice if Russia Ukraine were back in the 2019 era.
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Post by thor on Nov 9, 2024 13:20:42 GMT
Sure would be nice if Russia Ukraine were back in the 2019 era.  Like this, PP?  |
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Post by stugatze on Nov 9, 2024 13:58:09 GMT
Sure would be nice if Russia Ukraine were back in the 2019 era. Like this, PP?
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Dear ThorCUCK, .. but, you did NOT have any problem with the Hillary bitch when she was Secretary of State, and SELLING America's URANIUM reserves to Russia's Putin,  and THAT should NOT have EVER happened  because Uranium is a STRATEGIC resource.
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Post by thor on Nov 9, 2024 17:30:36 GMT
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Dear ThorCUCK, .. but, you did NOT have any problem with the Hillary bitch when she was Secretary of State, and SELLING America's URANIUM reserves to Russia's Putin, and THAT should NOT have EVER happened because Uranium is a STRATEGIC resource.
So, .. what about that, .. you HYPOCRITE turd? Quisling, Reek came out of that meeting - a meeting where no other Americans were present. Why did you trade your country for a red hat, Quisling?  |
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Post by RWB on Nov 9, 2024 17:41:39 GMT
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Dear ThorCUCK, .. but, you did NOT have any problem with the Hillary bitch when she was Secretary of State, and SELLING America's URANIUM reserves to Russia's Putin, and THAT should NOT have EVER happened because Uranium is a STRATEGIC resource.
So, .. what about that, .. you HYPOCRITE turd? Quisling, Reek came out of that meeting - a meeting where no other Americans were present. Why did you trade your country for a red hat, Quisling? Be careful Cuck your commander in chief comrade Putin doesn't like his cock holsters talking bad about him. |
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Post by thor on Nov 9, 2024 17:53:35 GMT
Quisling, Reek came out of that meeting - a meeting where no other Americans were present. Why did you trade your country for a red hat, Quisling? Be careful Cuck your commander in chief comrade Putin doesn't like his cock holsters talking bad about him. Three-time Trump guy sez wut? |
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Post by RWB on Nov 9, 2024 18:47:58 GMT
Be careful Cuck your commander in chief comrade Putin doesn't like his cock holsters talking bad about him. Three-time Trump guy sez wut? not 3 time only 1 time this time. |
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Post by thor on Nov 9, 2024 19:03:22 GMT
Three-time Trump guy sez wut? not 3 time only 1 time this time. Don't lie, Cuck.  |
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Post by RWB on Nov 9, 2024 20:22:28 GMT
not 3 time only 1 time this time. Don't lie, Cuck. I'm not like you a Democrat so no need to lie I admit I voted for trump this time because he was definitely the lesser of two evils. |
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Post by limey² on Nov 9, 2024 23:33:54 GMT
Ermmmm.... you think this is good? |
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Post by petep on Nov 9, 2024 23:47:21 GMT
Ermmmm.... you think this is good? I suspect all would agree that 2016-2020 was, in terms of world peace, a much better time. For whatever the reason. |
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Post by limey² on Nov 10, 2024 10:56:50 GMT
Ermmmm.... you think this is good? I suspect all would agree that 2016-2020 was, in terms of world peace, a much better time. For whatever the reason. Doesn't really address my point. ..and "peace"≠"absence of fighting". |
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Post by MojoJojo on Nov 10, 2024 11:52:41 GMT
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Post by petep on Nov 10, 2024 11:56:35 GMT
I suspect all would agree that 2016-2020 was, in terms of world peace, a much better time. For whatever the reason. Doesn't really address my point. ..and "peace"≠"absence of fighting". Absence of fighting is generally better than fighting. I suspect having relations - talking at least - with world authoritarians is better than ignoring what they are doing. I don’t think it’s coincidence that we saw authoritarians acting very aggressive during the Obama biden years. Then taking a break. Then acting up again during the Biden Harris years. |
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Post by limey² on Nov 10, 2024 16:20:42 GMT
Doesn't really address my point. ..and "peace"≠"absence of fighting". Absence of fighting is generally better than fighting. I suspect having relations - talking at least - with world authoritarians is better than ignoring what they are doing. I don’t think it’s coincidence that we saw authoritarians acting very aggressive during the Obama biden years. Then taking a break. Then acting up again during the Biden Harris years. And yet, Mr. Trump tells us - and therefore aggressors- that the US won't get involved in overseas wars, to paraphrase. So Taiwan and Ukraine are fucked. They can have an absence of fighting, & an end to their national identities & democratic ambitions. Hopefully, other allies, who understand strategic realities & the advantages to freedom & prosperity tied up in supporting freedom-seekers, will step in. The US learned last century that isolationism hurts it. That lesson has been forgotten. Taiwan can be kept free with a few SSNs or modern diesel/electric subs. The Aussie, Singaporean, South Korean & Royal Navies can probably do it, although it might make Elon & Mr. Trump grumpy. |
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Post by demos on Nov 10, 2024 16:36:26 GMT
If Ukraine had followed Chamberlain's strategy in early 2022, they'd be much better positioned in the future:
But because the foreign policy establishment likes to use appeasement as a cudgel (see McFaul's blathering on Twitter over the weekend) rather having any historical understanding of it as a policy (both its successes and failures), we can't have a real debate about what should be done.
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