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Post by Lomelis on Oct 2, 2024 22:15:56 GMT
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Post by thor on Oct 2, 2024 22:53:47 GMT
So you are calling out hypocrisy. All right. Since you knew the risks, why have a large gathering? I'm a professional dj, party promoter, and event coordinator. I host a weekly event here in SD. We didnt want to stop, so I set up an outside dj setup underneath my covered deck, complete with lights and a green screen. The first two weeks of covid, we did a Twitch broadcast with myself, my gf, and another dj. By the third week, a lot of people knew about it and wanted to come over. So I limited it to 20 people, byo and a your own cooler, had hand sanitizer everywhere, and nobody was allowed inside except to use the bathroom. I had a huge yard, and not a single person that came over ever got covid from my weekly parties. I didn't twist anybody arm. There were only two DJs who didn't want to do it, and they simply sent a video and audio recording. And yeah, I did throw an outlaw party(illegal rave) about five months into quarantine. Outside in a canyon. Five hundred people prepaid 20 bucks to get in, and another hundred or so people snuck in. But that is beside the point. I never called anybody a murderer for not following covid guidelines. That was somebody else. The highlighted part is unknowable, because people can (and do) become carriers and not know about it. It's called Asymptomatic/Contagious. Further, you threw a large gathering, exposing hundreds of people for a measly thousand bucks (plus, I assume, food and drinks). That is, by orders of magnitude, grossly more irresponsible than what Freon did. All that said, I'm not sure what you think you are 'winning' here. Neither one of you behaved responsibly, and trying to claim moral high ground because Freon (supposedly - I didn't see/don't remember so I can't falsify that claim) called people murderers is silly. And we both know it. |
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Post by greebnurt on Oct 2, 2024 23:11:40 GMT
I'm a professional dj, party promoter, and event coordinator. I host a weekly event here in SD. We didnt want to stop, so I set up an outside dj setup underneath my covered deck, complete with lights and a green screen. The first two weeks of covid, we did a Twitch broadcast with myself, my gf, and another dj. By the third week, a lot of people knew about it and wanted to come over. So I limited it to 20 people, byo and a your own cooler, had hand sanitizer everywhere, and nobody was allowed inside except to use the bathroom. I had a huge yard, and not a single person that came over ever got covid from my weekly parties. I didn't twist anybody arm. There were only two DJs who didn't want to do it, and they simply sent a video and audio recording. And yeah, I did throw an outlaw party(illegal rave) about five months into quarantine. Outside in a canyon. Five hundred people prepaid 20 bucks to get in, and another hundred or so people snuck in. But that is beside the point. I never called anybody a murderer for not following covid guidelines. That was somebody else. The highlighted part is unknowable, because people can (and do) become carriers and not know about it. It's called Asymptomatic/Contagious. Further, you threw a large gathering, exposing hundreds of people for a measly thousand bucks (plus, I assume, food and drinks). That is, by orders of magnitude, grossly more irresponsible than what Freon did. All that said, I'm not sure what you think you are 'winning' here. Neither one of you behaved responsibly, and trying to claim moral high ground because Freon (supposedly - I didn't see/don't remember so I can't falsify that claim) called people murderers is silly. And we both know it. I claim no moral high ground, so sorry but you're wrong. And yes, it had a bar. In a canyon. 2 4 foot folding tables selling cans(tecates, IPAs, and mixed drjnks). There was no food - it's a fuckig illegal party in a canyon from 10 to 6.if people wanted to sip off each other's drinks, then that's their shitty health habits. And btw, genius, twenty times five hundred is 10 Gs. Party cost me two grand to throw, but I made that back at the bar. |
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Post by greebnurt on Oct 2, 2024 23:12:27 GMT
I'm a professional dj, party promoter, and event coordinator. I host a weekly event here in SD. We didnt want to stop, so I set up an outside dj setup underneath my covered deck, complete with lights and a green screen. The first two weeks of covid, we did a Twitch broadcast with myself, my gf, and another dj. By the third week, a lot of people knew about it and wanted to come over. So I limited it to 20 people, byo and a your own cooler, had hand sanitizer everywhere, and nobody was allowed inside except to use the bathroom. I had a huge yard, and not a single person that came over ever got covid from my weekly parties. I didn't twist anybody arm. There were only two DJs who didn't want to do it, and they simply sent a video and audio recording. And yeah, I did throw an outlaw party(illegal rave) about five months into quarantine. Outside in a canyon. Five hundred people prepaid 20 bucks to get in, and another hundred or so people snuck in. But that is beside the point. I never called anybody a murderer for not following covid guidelines. That was somebody else. The highlighted part is unknowable, because people can (and do) become carriers and not know about it. It's called Asymptomatic/Contagious. Further, you threw a large gathering, exposing hundreds of people for a measly thousand bucks (plus, I assume, food and drinks). That is, by orders of magnitude, grossly more irresponsible than what Freon did. All that said, I'm not sure what you think you are 'winning' here. Neither one of you behaved responsibly, and trying to claim moral high ground because Freon (supposedly - I didn't see/don't remember so I can't falsify that claim) called people murderers is silly. And we both know it. And I'm guessing you're vaccinated? |
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Post by thor on Oct 2, 2024 23:27:10 GMT
The highlighted part is unknowable, because people can (and do) become carriers and not know about it. It's called Asymptomatic/Contagious. Further, you threw a large gathering, exposing hundreds of people for a measly thousand bucks (plus, I assume, food and drinks). That is, by orders of magnitude, grossly more irresponsible than what Freon did. All that said, I'm not sure what you think you are 'winning' here. Neither one of you behaved responsibly, and trying to claim moral high ground because Freon (supposedly - I didn't see/don't remember so I can't falsify that claim) called people murderers is silly. And we both know it. I claim no moral high ground, so sorry but you're wrong. And yes, it had a bar. In a canyon. 2 4 foot folding tables selling cans(tecates, IPAs, and mixed drjnks). There was no food - it's a fuckig illegal party in a canyon from 10 to 6.if people wanted to sip off each other's drinks, then that's their shitty health habits. And btw, genius, twenty times five hundred is 10 Gs. Party cost me two grand to throw, but I made that back at the bar. MB on the maths. So...throwing an event exposing people to a lethal pathogen is OK to you because profit. I see. How is this better? |
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Post by greebnurt on Oct 2, 2024 23:42:33 GMT
I claim no moral high ground, so sorry but you're wrong. And yes, it had a bar. In a canyon. 2 4 foot folding tables selling cans(tecates, IPAs, and mixed drjnks). There was no food - it's a fuckig illegal party in a canyon from 10 to 6.if people wanted to sip off each other's drinks, then that's their shitty health habits. And btw, genius, twenty times five hundred is 10 Gs. Party cost me two grand to throw, but I made that back at the bar. MB on the maths. So...throwing an event exposing people to a lethal pathogen is OK to you because profit. I see. How is this better? Everyone there had an absolute blast and were talking about it for weeks. This wasn't an at risk demographic. Relax, Karen. There was another local DJ, she was smart and got a church charter early in during covid. She threw parties every single weekend, always outdoors, and the locations were sick, usually on the water. She did it under Church of Music, and if the cops showed she could basically tell them to fuck off. Church gathering. The smaller ones were 80 to 100. Larger ones were 500+ Look, if youre part of an at risk group because of age or health issues, then stay tf home. The rest of us wanted to get on with living life. If youre hating on me for that, then you can kindly fuck off. And for the last time, I didnt accuse others of murder. |
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Post by thor on Oct 3, 2024 0:08:21 GMT
MB on the maths. So...throwing an event exposing people to a lethal pathogen is OK to you because profit. I see. How is this better? Everyone there had an absolute blast and were talking about it for weeks. This wasn't an at risk demographic. Relax, Karen. There was another local DJ, she was smart and got a church charter early in during covid. She threw parties every single weekend, always outdoors, and the locations were sick, usually on the water. She did it under Church of Music, and if the cops showed she could basically tell them to fuck off. Church gathering. The smaller ones were 80 to 100. Larger ones were 500+ Look, if youre part of an at risk group because of age or health issues, then stay tf home. The rest of us wanted to get on with living life. If youre hating on me for that, then you can kindly fuck off. And for the last time, I didnt accuse others of murder. So, no consideration of what might have happened after your shindig. You have no way of knowing, and both of us are well aware of that. I am getting the feeling, greeb, that you very much don't like being on the defensive. You know your behavior was far worse than Freon's, but he hurt your feelings, so they are the same, in your estimation. Or something. |
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Post by greebnurt on Oct 3, 2024 1:03:39 GMT
Everyone there had an absolute blast and were talking about it for weeks. This wasn't an at risk demographic. Relax, Karen. There was another local DJ, she was smart and got a church charter early in during covid. She threw parties every single weekend, always outdoors, and the locations were sick, usually on the water. She did it under Church of Music, and if the cops showed she could basically tell them to fuck off. Church gathering. The smaller ones were 80 to 100. Larger ones were 500+ Look, if youre part of an at risk group because of age or health issues, then stay tf home. The rest of us wanted to get on with living life. If youre hating on me for that, then you can kindly fuck off. And for the last time, I didnt accuse others of murder. So, no consideration of what might have happened after your shindig. You have no way of knowing, and both of us are well aware of that. I am getting the feeling, greeb, that you very much don't like being on the defensive. You know your behavior was far worse than Freon's, but he hurt your feelings, so they are the same, in your estimation. Or something. Its not a matter of "hurt feelings". It was a matter of calling somebody out who was speaking in a condescending tone and accusing others of being murderers. It's that simple. If you want to play arm chair psychologist, have at. I've been clear about my stance on covid from the beginning. If you have a pre existing condition - you're old, weakened immune, fat fuck - then stay tf home. The rest of society had effects similar to a cold. The death numbers were higher with covid, because if you're in the group I just mentioned, then yeah it was far more deadly. The rest of us wanted to go o with life. Attitudes like yours kept things shut down for longer. Do I hold you responsible for increased suicide, drug use, businesses being forced to shut down, fucked up learning and societal results in children? Think about it. Are you the irresponsible one for your beliefs And again, I didnt force a single person to come to my parties. This basic fact seems to keep slipping your mind. You want to stay home during covid and obey? That's all you. I was throwing parties and surfing empty point breaks in Baja. Boo hoo, Karen. Boo hoo. |
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Post by johnnybgood on Oct 3, 2024 1:33:14 GMT
"It teaches your body how to defend" Your body isn't going to do it without the "training". Basically it helps the body defend. Lol. Did the huge vast majority of unvaccinated people that were infected die or did their bodies fight it off without the "training"? They didn't get as sick. When its fighting you're probably going to be sick. When I got COVID my nose itched (I had vaccine). My sister was in bed for a week. (The vaccine wasn't out yet). I don't know how many people died. Were they old, or a mix of ages? I don't understand what you're arguing with me about. |
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Post by thor on Oct 3, 2024 2:04:27 GMT
So, no consideration of what might have happened after your shindig. You have no way of knowing, and both of us are well aware of that. I am getting the feeling, greeb, that you very much don't like being on the defensive. You know your behavior was far worse than Freon's, but he hurt your feelings, so they are the same, in your estimation. Or something. It's that simple. If you want to play arm chair psychologist, have at. I've been clear about my stance on covid from the beginning. If you have a pre existing condition - you're old, weakened immune, fat fuck - then stay tf home. The rest of society had effects similar to a cold. The death numbers were higher with covid, because if you're in the group I just mentioned, then yeah it was far more deadly. The rest of us wanted to go o with life. Attitudes like yours kept things shut down for longer. Do I hold you responsible for increased suicide, drug use, businesses being forced to shut down, fucked up learning and societal results in children? Think about it. Are you the irresponsible one for your beliefs And again, I didnt force a single person to come to my parties. This basic fact seems to keep slipping your mind. You want to stay home during covid and obey? That's all you. I was throwing parties and surfing empty point breaks in Baja. Boo hoo, Karen. Boo hoo. I don't need to 'play arm chair psychologist'. You already outed yourself, and when YOU got called out, you are trying various Post Hoc rationalizations for your behavior: 'But I made money!' 'But people had a good time!' Your sauce is weak, greeb. And as you like to remind us, cry is free. |
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Post by greebnurt on Oct 3, 2024 5:40:37 GMT
Its not a matter of "hurt feelings". It was a matter of calling somebody out who was speaking in a condescending tone and accusing others of being murderers. It's that simple. If you want to play arm chair psychologist, have at. I've been clear about my stance on covid from the beginning. If you have a pre existing condition - you're old, weakened immune, fat fuck - then stay tf home. The rest of society had effects similar to a cold. The death numbers were higher with covid, because if you're in the group I just mentioned, then yeah it was far more deadly. The rest of us wanted to go o with life. Attitudes like yours kept things shut down for longer. Do I hold you responsible for increased suicide, drug use, businesses being forced to shut down, fucked up learning and societal results in children? Think about it. Are you the irresponsible one for your beliefs And again, I didnt force a single person to come to my parties. This basic fact seems to keep slipping your mind. You want to stay home during covid and obey? That's all you. I was throwing parties and surfing empty point breaks in Baja. Boo hoo, Karen. Boo hoo. I don't need to 'play arm chair psychologist'. You already outed yourself, and when YOU got called out, you are trying various Post Hoc rationalizations for your behavior: 'But I made money!' 'But people had a good time!' Your sauce is weak, greeb. And as you like to remind us, cry is free. This response is what's weak. Maybe try harder? The current covid infection rate in SD is similar to that in 2020 when I threw my big party. Do you think every business owner - bar, restaurant, retail, child care, coffee shop, movie theater, etc - should shut down their business? Or have we actually learned from the past? Think about it for a second. |
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Post by thor on Oct 3, 2024 20:39:11 GMT
I don't need to 'play arm chair psychologist'. You already outed yourself, and when YOU got called out, you are trying various Post Hoc rationalizations for your behavior: 'But I made money!' 'But people had a good time!' Your sauce is weak, greeb. And as you like to remind us, cry is free. This response is what's weak. Maybe try harder? The current covid infection rate in SD is similar to that in 2020 when I threw my big party. Do you think every business owner - bar, restaurant, retail, child care, coffee shop, movie theater, etc - should shut down their business? Or have we actually learned from the past? Think about it for a second. The 'NO U' defense is pro....well....no it isn't. I expect more from you greeb. Do better. |
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Post by Fiddler on Oct 3, 2024 21:08:30 GMT
Denying that the Covid vaccines were and are remarkably successful is a religion .. Colorectally extracted dogma straight from Poop Don the Orange . If there's schadenfreude to be had * .. it's in the fact that deaths in Red States from Covid were considerably higher than those in Blue States ... the result of a deadly mixture of ignorance, gullibility, and obstinance.. * Yes.. In a Darwin Awards sense .. I'm OK with deaths brought on by ones own stupidity .. Ya gott'a be tough if you're gonna be stupid .. |
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Post by RWB on Oct 3, 2024 21:42:22 GMT
Nah. You can keep that clot shot. im on Eliquis. 😜 I’ve had x2 Autologus stem cell transplants. I’ve had at least 10 COVID vaccinations. Three before my TP and three after and boosters. I’m a retired nurse. I’m not scared. I believe in science. The cemeteries are filled with kids prior to vaccines. Polio is on the rise thanks to Trump who is a buffoon. are you being sarcastic or just trying to out stupid WADS the shotgun is a long range weapon statement? |
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Post by greebnurt on Oct 3, 2024 21:55:53 GMT
This response is what's weak. Maybe try harder? The current covid infection rate in SD is similar to that in 2020 when I threw my big party. Do you think every business owner - bar, restaurant, retail, child care, coffee shop, movie theater, etc - should shut down their business? Or have we actually learned from the past? Think about it for a second. The 'NO U' defense is pro....well....no it isn't. I expect more from you greeb. Do better. Way to gloss over the actual content of my post, ace. How convenient for you. |
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Post by Lomelis on Oct 5, 2024 6:55:45 GMT
Lol. Did the huge vast majority of unvaccinated people that were infected die or did their bodies fight it off without the "training"? They didn't get as sick. When its fighting you're probably going to be sick. When I got COVID my nose itched (I had vaccine). My sister was in bed for a week. (The vaccine wasn't out yet). I don't know how many people died. Were they old, or a mix of ages? I don't understand what you're arguing with me about. It's ok Johnny, I know that you didn't understand the conversation. |
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Post by Lomelis on Oct 5, 2024 8:16:46 GMT
This response is what's weak. Maybe try harder? The current covid infection rate in SD is similar to that in 2020 when I threw my big party. Do you think every business owner - bar, restaurant, retail, child care, coffee shop, movie theater, etc - should shut down their business? Or have we actually learned from the past? Think about it for a second. The 'NO U' defense is pro....well....no it isn't. I expect more from you greeb. Do better. How about actually addressing the questions instead of running away like a dipshit loser? |
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Post by thor on Oct 5, 2024 21:17:01 GMT
The 'NO U' defense is pro....well....no it isn't. I expect more from you greeb. Do better. Way to gloss over the actual content of my post, ace. How convenient for you. The content was yet another whine try and excuse your behavior, in the light of your own hypocrisy. Again, your (admitted, and proudly claimed) behavior was far more egregiously bad than what Freon did. By orders of magnitude. And done for the worst possible of reasons. I'm sorry you are so delicate that Freon hurt your feelings. All the houses, cars and lewt won't heal that hole in your persona. Cry is free, greeb. |
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Post by greebnurt on Oct 5, 2024 21:54:36 GMT
Way to gloss over the actual content of my post, ace. How convenient for you. The content was yet another whine try and excuse your behavior, in the light of your own hypocrisy. Again, your (admitted, and proudly claimed) behavior was far more egregiously bad than what Freon did. By orders of magnitude. And done for the worst possible of reasons. I'm sorry you are so delicate that Freon hurt your feelings. All the houses, cars and lewt won't heal that hole in your persona. Cry is free, greeb. Fuck, you really suck at this, Karen. Again, current covid levels in San Diego are close to what they were when I threw my party in 2020. I personally know quite a few people who either have or have had covid recently. So, in light of that, you believe that every business owner in San Diego should close down shop, right? Or have we learned from the past? You seem to be having difficulty addressing this point. I'd also like to ask you if you think that the at risk demographic for covid hospitalizations are hiking half a mile into a canyon in the middle of the night to do drugs and party until the sun comes up? One more thing you seem to be glossing over is the fact that I didn't force a single person to come to this party. Are you also against free will? Now if you'll excuse me, I'm headed to a giant house warming party that I'm gonna dj. Huge property, big ass pool, beautiful place. I'll be sure and let the owner, a former Marine, know that you think he's an asshole for being so selfish as to throw a party while SD is going through another covid "crisis". Cry is free, Karen, and your tears happen to be the saltiest. |
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Post by thor on Oct 5, 2024 22:40:49 GMT
The content was yet another whine try and excuse your behavior, in the light of your own hypocrisy. Again, your (admitted, and proudly claimed) behavior was far more egregiously bad than what Freon did. By orders of magnitude. And done for the worst possible of reasons. I'm sorry you are so delicate that Freon hurt your feelings. All the houses, cars and lewt won't heal that hole in your persona. Cry is free, greeb. Fuck, you really suck at this, Karen. Again, current covid levels in San Diego are close to what they were when I threw my party in 2020. I personally know quite a few people who either have or have had covid recently. So, in light of that, you believe that every business owner in San Diego should close down shop, right? Or have we learned from the past? You seem to be having difficulty addressing this point. I'd also like to ask you if you think that the at risk demographic for covid hospitalizations are hiking half a mile into a canyon in the middle of the night to do drugs and party until the sun comes up? One more thing you seem to be glossing over is the fact that I didn't force a single person to come to this party. Are you also against free will? Now if you'll excuse me, I'm headed to a giant house warming party that I'm gonna dj. Huge property, big ass pool, beautiful place. I'll be sure and let the owner, a former Marine, know that you think he's an asshole for being so selfish as to throw a party while SD is going through another covid "crisis". Cry is free, Karen, and your tears happen to be the saltiest. Damn, your feelings are fully hurt, aren't they? Your Post Hoc rationalizations don't excuse your own hypocrisy, Bro. You lost your privilege to criticize anyone once you admitted to far, Far, FAR more risky behavior (to yourself, and more importantly, others) for the weaksauce reasons given. And that's a fact. Whether that hurts your feels or not. Your Marine buddy (there are no 'former Marines', just ask him) point you are failing to make is irrelevant, and silly. Michael Flynn is a retired general. Does that make him somehow less of a shitbag (this is where you whine about me saying your Marine friend is a shitbag, which I didn't)? That said, 2024 is not 2020, so that doesn't fly either. Appeal to Authority much? Sorry, not sorry. You seem very fixated on material things, given your propensity to tell everyone what you have and how much you are worth. Boring, greeb, it holds no weight with me, because I already made it - years ago. I own my home, the land under it, everything in it, and both of my vehicles. Outright. I owe no one anything. Further, I work because I want to, not because I have to, i.e., I could retire tomorrow. Talk to someone else who might be impressed with your possessions, because it isn't this guy. I can pee in my tears if you want them more salty.  |
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