Flu & COVID Vaccine

And then he spent who knows how many threads and posts trying to obfuscate, deny, and deflect from what he did before he was smart enough to go read the CDC recommendations and try to find some legal loophole to argue he was following. 

Here it is, Freon did follow the guidelines in place at the time, almost a year ago.



Nov 26, 2023 16:10:59 GMT -4 freonbale said:
Sigh. Thanksgiving day. Had to cancel the whole thing.

On Paxlovid now, symptoms definitely improving, but still sick.

Had to get shopping done today, but wore a mask to protect others. I am SURE other people were infectious and not wearing masks.

Going to take a few more of these pandemics for people to truly take them seriously.

On Friday, when I contacted my doctor to get the Paxlovid prescription, was told eight other people had done so the same day, and ALL of them were first time Covid infectees, just like me.

Just a warning to everyone, that Covid is still very much a disease we need to worry about. For the last 4+ months, the hospital system I work at has been at our highest level of alert (code Orange, level 1, if you care), indicating no beds are left for new patients. Hearing this is the condition across the country.

Please self-test, and if you are positive, please mask.

Freon

No, the guidelines were to stay home and isolate at the time. 

Go out and go shopping was not... 

This was all explained then. You don't get to retcon this. 

Bullshit.

The number one guideline was that if you test positive for covid, isolate/quarantine. That is and was the number one guideline. Number two was that IF YOU MUST GO OUT, wear a mask and social distance. There is no necessity to go out for groceries in California, unless you live in some isolated, backwoods part of the state.

He might as well have gone to the mall for some new jeans.

I need to go back. I don't think its been a year, but maybe 9 months.

I took an employer provided flu shot for the first time in many yeats about 1990. A couple months later, Upper Management and both kids, 11 and 6, got the flu at the same time. No one died, but good heavens were they sick. I never had the first symptom. Stayed home and did sick care.

I've only had the flu once. I felt like I was going to die. This was before 1990. My joints felt like they were separating. I had a fairly high fever.

But I still didn't routinely take the flu shot until that 1990 episode. That episode convinced me the shot was a good thing to get. I did miss a year now and then, wife never takes it because she LOATHES needles. She's played the odds and been succesul except for that one episode. I play it a little safer.

I just got updated flu and 'rona shots at pharmacy. Arm a little sore. Felt a little reaction, which, as another poster says, is good. You cannot get flu or 'rona from the vaccine though people SWEAR they do. They don't.

Upper Management likely will not get either. Son might not. Don't know about his kids, don't pry. Daughter and kids will - she's a nurse.

Deep in Trumpworld where I live there are lots of antivaxxers, largely due to that debunked link to autism. Devotion to Trump seems to be one of their traits. Some believe 'rona is just a cold. Rush Limbaugh claimed that. Maybe a bad cold, but just a cold. Pastor at my church believed that first time around. Don't know about now. He is not devoted to Trump, but he's committed rather strongly. Some call it a "plandemic," a result of a conspiracy. They're mostly in Trumpworld, too.

Polio and other all but eliminated diseases like measles and chickenpox are on the uptick due to vaccine resistance. Trumpanistas mainly lead that group, too. There have been deaths likely attributable to it, but certainly there has been unnecessary disease and suffering.

I do trust science. Conspiracists are mostly lodged in Trumpworld.

What's weird is it's THE flu.  Not flu. I know of no other disease with the definite article THE in its name.  No THE polio.  No THE cancer.  Of course there's more than one kind of cancer.  But there are also varieties of flu.  Maybe it's because flu is short for influenza.  No one would say THE influenza.

No, He never offered any explanation for why it was a necessity. You see, we already had all those bases covered for how you can get groceries or what not... 

LOL when will the wingnuts take responsibility for the shit they do

He went grocery shopping. Are you saying services like Instacart are magically non-existent in his area. Explain this to me.

And btw, how do you know that he said it was a necessity? Earlier in this thread you were asking for a link that this actually happened. Now you're saying that you know for a fact it was a necessity? Why are you trying to create cover for his stupidity?