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Post by Paleocon on Sept 19, 2024 13:56:27 GMT
The International Brotherhood of Teamsters declined to endorse a presidential candidate on Wednesday after releasing internal polling that showed a majority of its members supported former President Donald Trump over Vice President Kamala Harris.
Ahead of the decision, the Teamsters shared internal data showing that a majority of members supported Trump over Harris. According to an electronic member poll that was initiated after President Joe Biden withdrew from the race, about 60% of members believed the union should endorse Trump while 34% supported Harris. About 6% said they supported another candidate.
Harris is slipping with blacks and now she's losing the working class/union vote? Never in my lifetime did I expect such a realignment.
With all of these defections from the Democrats, who's left to vote for Kamala?
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Post by thecitizen on Sept 19, 2024 14:00:09 GMT
Poor teamsters, they will cut off their nose to spite their face
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Post by freonbale on Sept 19, 2024 14:00:39 GMT
The International Brotherhood of Teamsters declined to endorse a presidential candidate on Wednesday after releasing internal polling that showed a majority of its members supported former President Donald Trump over Vice President Kamala Harris.
Ahead of the decision, the Teamsters shared internal data showing that a majority of members supported Trump over Harris. According to an electronic member poll that was initiated after President Joe Biden withdrew from the race, about 60% of members believed the union should endorse Trump while 34% supported Harris. About 6% said they supported another candidate.
Harris is slipping with blacks and now she's losing the working class/union vote? Never in my lifetime did I expect such a realignment.
With all of these defections from the Democrats, who's left to vote for Kamala?
If those numbers are accurate, why would they endorse no one, with such a clear inclination towards Donald? Ask yourself that question, Paleo. Why would they not try to help their own candidate? There IS a reason. Freon
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Post by Greg55_99 on Sept 19, 2024 14:02:52 GMT
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Post by Paleocon on Sept 19, 2024 14:46:26 GMT
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Post by Paleocon on Sept 19, 2024 14:49:20 GMT
The International Brotherhood of Teamsters declined to endorse a presidential candidate on Wednesday after releasing internal polling that showed a majority of its members supported former President Donald Trump over Vice President Kamala Harris.
Ahead of the decision, the Teamsters shared internal data showing that a majority of members supported Trump over Harris. According to an electronic member poll that was initiated after President Joe Biden withdrew from the race, about 60% of members believed the union should endorse Trump while 34% supported Harris. About 6% said they supported another candidate.
Harris is slipping with blacks and now she's losing the working class/union vote? Never in my lifetime did I expect such a realignment.
With all of these defections from the Democrats, who's left to vote for Kamala?
If those numbers are accurate, why would they endorse no one, with such a clear inclination towards Donald? Ask yourself that question, Paleo. Why would they not try to help their own candidate? There IS a reason. Freon Most of the Teamster leadership are leftists, while the rank and file support Trump. The leftists are trying not to burn bridges.
Perhaps you need to ask why the Teamsters released their internal polling numbers at all when they showed Trump was favored.
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Post by freonbale on Sept 19, 2024 14:53:46 GMT
If those numbers are accurate, why would they endorse no one, with such a clear inclination towards Donald? Ask yourself that question, Paleo. Why would they not try to help their own candidate? There IS a reason. Freon Most of the Teamster leadership are leftists, while the rank and file support Trump. The leftists are trying not to burn bridges.
Perhaps you need to ask why the Teamsters released their internal polling numbers at all when they showed Trump was favored.
So the vast majority of Teamsters, who supposedly are all Donald supporters, elected 'Leftist' leaders? You don't see a problem with that explanation? Freon
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Post by Greg55_99 on Sept 19, 2024 15:06:47 GMT
From YOUR article: That 26% number is bogus as the election gets closer. Black voters are going all in on Harris. Wish and hope for slippage all you want, it ain't happening. Greg
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Post by Paleocon on Sept 19, 2024 15:10:33 GMT
Most of the Teamster leadership are leftists, while the rank and file support Trump. The leftists are trying not to burn bridges.
Perhaps you need to ask why the Teamsters released their internal polling numbers at all when they showed Trump was favored.
So the vast majority of Teamsters, who supposedly are all Donald supporters, elected 'Leftist' leaders? You don't see a problem with that explanation? Freon Those Teamster leaders have been in place for a while, so it's the rank and file that are becoming disillusioned with Democrats and their perverted policies favoring the rich elitists.
You're witnessing a major political realignment, where the working class folks are shifting away from an increasingly radical Democratic Party that embraces sexual filth, caters to the wealthy and supports foreign entanglements.
But I see that you are so embedded in your cult that you refuse to believe the polling that the Teamsters did themselves.
Pretending that you were ever a Republican is a joke now.
If you have a better explanation, let's hear it.
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Post by Paleocon on Sept 19, 2024 15:13:44 GMT
From YOUR article: That 26% number is bogus as the election gets closer. Black voters are going all in on Harris. Wish and hope for slippage all you want, it ain't happening. Greg No one said that Trump would get a majority of black votes. The black community is full of stupid racists that will vote for Kamala's skin color rather than see her incompetence.
But Trump is on track to better his black vote percentage in 2024 and any votes lost by Democrats, even a sliver, is bad news for y'all and good news for us.
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Post by demos on Sept 19, 2024 15:25:20 GMT
If those numbers are accurate, why would they endorse no one, with such a clear inclination towards Donald? Ask yourself that question, Paleo. Why would they not try to help their own candidate? There IS a reason. Freon Probably because the leadership doesn't really support Trump (they have been critical of some of his comments and policies) and you have some locals that have endorsed Harris; the national leadership doesn't want to piss off the membership. It's not that complicated.
This is the first Presidential race they haven't endorsed in since 1996, only the 3rd time it's happened since 1960:
Teamsters union skips endorsement in presidential race for first time since 1996
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Post by Greg55_99 on Sept 19, 2024 15:30:09 GMT
From YOUR article: That 26% number is bogus as the election gets closer. Black voters are going all in on Harris. Wish and hope for slippage all you want, it ain't happening. Greg No one said that Trump would get a majority of black votes. The black community is full of stupid racists that will vote for Kamala's skin color rather than see her incompetence.
But Trump is on track to better his black vote percentage in 2024 and any votes lost by Democrats, even a sliver, is bad news for y'all and good news for us.
Wish in one hand and shit in the other. See which one fills up the fastest. Looks like you got just as dumb as Stuey when it comes to Black voters. Trump will NOT be increasing his number of Black voters. He is about to be overwhelmed by Black voters showing up at Obama levels for Harris. Count on it. Greg
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Post by freonbale on Sept 19, 2024 15:31:54 GMT
So the vast majority of Teamsters, who supposedly are all Donald supporters, elected 'Leftist' leaders? You don't see a problem with that explanation? Freon Those Teamster leaders have been in place for a while, so it's the rank and file that are becoming disillusioned with Democrats and their perverted policies favoring the rich elitists.
You're witnessing a major political realignment, where the working class folks are shifting away from an increasingly radical Democratic Party that embraces sexual filth, caters to the wealthy and supports foreign entanglements.
But I see that you are so embedded in your cult that you refuse to believe the polling that the Teamsters did themselves.
Pretending that you were ever a Republican is a joke now.
If you have a better explanation, let's hear it.
I've been consistent and made clear I don't trust ANY polling, not just this. I do agree with you that a major realignment is taking place, though. It's just not going to end up the way you think or want. Freon
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Post by freonbale on Sept 19, 2024 15:35:11 GMT
If those numbers are accurate, why would they endorse no one, with such a clear inclination towards Donald? Ask yourself that question, Paleo. Why would they not try to help their own candidate? There IS a reason. Freon Probably because the leadership doesn't really support Trump (they have been critical of some of his comments and policies) and you have some locals that have endorsed Harris; the national leadership doesn't want to piss off the membership. It's not that complicated.
This is the first Presidential race they haven't endorsed in since 1996, only the 3rd time it's happened since 1960:
Teamsters union skips endorsement in presidential race for first time since 1996Now didn't the head of the Teamsters speak at the RNC? Hardly someone who does not support Donald. Yet no endorsement. How do you resolve that discrepancy? Freon
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Post by demos on Sept 19, 2024 15:48:51 GMT
Now didn't the head of the Teamsters speak at the RNC? Hardly someone who does not support Donald. Yet no endorsement. Yeah, he spoke, and then came out and criticized him over his comments to Musk (that's in the link). He wasn't exactly effusive at the RNC either. Exactly as I said: "Probably because the leadership doesn't really support Trump (they have been critical of some of his comments and policies) and you have some locals that have endorsed Harris; the national leadership doesn't want to piss off the membership. It's not that complicated."
Some of the locals are endorsing Harris, while obviously a large number of the rank and file support Trump.
It's not as if they've never endorsed a Republican; the last one was George H. W. Bush. But there's clearly a divide within the union. Easiest way to avoid conflict and not piss off your members is to not endorse and let the locals and rank and file do what they want.
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Post by freonbale on Sept 19, 2024 16:49:16 GMT
Now didn't the head of the Teamsters speak at the RNC? Hardly someone who does not support Donald. Yet no endorsement. Yeah, he spoke, and then came out and criticized him over his comments to Musk (that's in the link). He wasn't exactly effusive at the RNC either. Exactly as I said: "Probably because the leadership doesn't really support Trump (they have been critical of some of his comments and policies) and you have some locals that have endorsed Harris; the national leadership doesn't want to piss off the membership. It's not that complicated."
Some of the locals are endorsing Harris, while obviously a large number of the rank and file support Trump.
It's not as if they've never endorsed a Republican; the last one was George H. W. Bush. But there's clearly a divide within the union. Easiest way to avoid conflict and not piss off your members is to not endorse and let the locals and rank and file do what they want.
Thank you, demos. You came to the conclusion I was trying to get Paleo to see. There is (obviously) a divide within the union, and though that poll suggests that it is an unequal divide, the reality is that it is likely much closer to equal, and so an endorsement of one side or the other would misrepresent, and anger, a good half of the union. Freon
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Post by Fiddler on Sept 19, 2024 19:51:01 GMT
Most of the Teamster leadership are leftists, while the rank and file support Trump. The leftists are trying not to burn bridges.
Perhaps you need to ask why the Teamsters released their internal polling numbers at all when they showed Trump was favored.
So the vast majority of Teamsters, who supposedly are all Donald supporters, elected 'Leftist' leaders? You don't see a problem with that explanation? Freon
LMAO.. THAT'S gonna leave a mark ..
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Post by Fiddler on Sept 19, 2024 19:56:29 GMT
So 60% rank and file support the Orange Douche but the Teamsters won't endorse him.. LOL ..
Shows that they understand what kind of a worthless piece of shit he is ..
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Post by Paleocon on Sept 19, 2024 19:56:50 GMT
Yeah, he spoke, and then came out and criticized him over his comments to Musk (that's in the link). He wasn't exactly effusive at the RNC either. Exactly as I said: "Probably because the leadership doesn't really support Trump (they have been critical of some of his comments and policies) and you have some locals that have endorsed Harris; the national leadership doesn't want to piss off the membership. It's not that complicated."
Some of the locals are endorsing Harris, while obviously a large number of the rank and file support Trump.
It's not as if they've never endorsed a Republican; the last one was George H. W. Bush. But there's clearly a divide within the union. Easiest way to avoid conflict and not piss off your members is to not endorse and let the locals and rank and file do what they want.
Thank you, demos. You came to the conclusion I was trying to get Paleo to see. There is (obviously) a divide within the union, and though that poll suggests that it is an unequal divide, the reality is that it is likely much closer to equal, and so an endorsement of one side or the other would misrepresent, and anger, a good half of the union. Freon Yeah, that's SOOOO completely different from what I said:
"Most of the Teamster leadership are leftists, while the rank and file support Trump. The leftists are trying not to burn bridges." - Paleo.
Here's the real point of the union's lack of endorsement:
From April 9-July 3, nearly 300 Teamsters local unions nationwide conducted first-of-their-kind Presidential town halls, soliciting endorsement preferences from members via straw polls. The in-person voting was held prior to Biden’s withdrawal from the race. The Teamsters’ polling data shows members backed Biden 44.3 percent to Trump’s 36.3 percent.
Following the Republican National Convention and Biden’s campaign exit, the Teamsters commissioned a national electronic poll of its 1.3 million members, overseen by an independent third party. During a voting window from July 24-Sept. 15, rank-and-file Teamsters voted 59.6 percent for the union to endorse Trump, compared to 34 percent for Harris.
In the past week, following the Democratic National Convention and recent Presidential debate, the Teamsters commissioned independent polling firm Lake Research Partners to conduct the union’s final national survey. In the poll ending Sept. 15, Teamsters selected Trump by 58 percent for endorsement over 31 percent for Harris.
According to the Teamsters, Harris is toxic and getting more so. Biden was up on Trump in Teamster poling before he was forced out, with only 36.3% for Trump vs Biden. Biden would have likely carried the Teamsters and gotten the endorsement of the union if he'd stayed in the race. Only when fake, incompetent Harris became the pick did the Teamsters support for the Democrats crater.
This is a potential sign of the hidden majority that has rejected Harris and have a sour taste because she was anointed as the candidate.
I was trying to get YOU to understand the deeper meaning that I just educated you on, but as usual, shallow thinkers like you come to shallow conclusions. Your narrative is so weak that you had to make up the "though that poll suggests that it is an unequal divide, the reality is that it is likely much closer to equal" fiction rather than look at the real facts.
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Post by Fiddler on Sept 19, 2024 20:03:55 GMT
This is hilarious .. The Cult is so desperate that they'll rejoice over the Teamsters NOT endorsing anyone .. even with a 60% edge for Trump ..
Meanwhile .. In battleground Pennsylvania ..
Kamala Harris endorsed by Western Pennsylvania Teamsters
Teamsters Joint Council No. 40 says it has endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris, the Democratic nominee for president.
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