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Post by oldtrapper on Apr 7, 2024 5:05:22 GMT
Naw. You are just lying as you need to do along with your gawd. What is the lie? Now run along like you usually do coward. As N have said more times then you are capable of understanding, I never run from liars like you, PocketPussy, Stupid, etc. And the lie is you thinking you are intelligent enough to "victimize" anyone once they are out of the crib, or ended sucking on their mothers tit.
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Post by Odysseus on Apr 7, 2024 6:08:05 GMT
What if I were coming by boat? I mined the sea lanes.
Did you mine the sea lanes, or did you mime the sea lanes?
There is probably a difference...
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Post by Mercy for All on Apr 7, 2024 8:33:16 GMT
I didn't say "it's not wrong." I said you need to show that it's worse than violence inflicted "not because of religion." My point about Genghis Khan was that he was not religiously motivated. And he didn't rally his armies with religion. That people who claim religion do bad things does not make it "the common denominator" any more than breathing oxygen is a "common denominator." The issue is whether their religious belief motivated them to do those things. If an Irish Catholic killed a room full of Protestant kids, were they motivated by their religious belief? Or were they motivated by the desire for retribution based on prior and present injustice? There's no question that people are divided by religious belief. That doesn't guarantee that what they do is based on their religious belief. Especially when these kinds of actions are also perpetrated by those without religious belief. The only thing you can legitimately make a claim about is when people claim that their actions are motivated by religious beliefs (e.g., the Crusades). We seen to be misunderstanding each other. Let me say this: if your religion, whatever it is, gives you comfort, purpose, inspiration, and optimism about yourself, I think that's great. I'm just telling you that religion has been an excuse for untold horrendous activity for centuries. I'm not discounting the fact that human greed and lust for power. ala Genghis Khan, don't come into play in any of this, just that more often than not religion is used to justify whatever the goal of the manipulator is. I hope you've not bought a trump bible, but I'd like your take on his bible promotion. There’s a thread on it on which I’ve contributed. I would link it but difficult to do on the phone.
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Post by Monster Man on Apr 7, 2024 13:38:40 GMT
What is the lie? Now run along like you usually do coward. As N have said more times then you are capable of understanding, I never run from liars like you, PocketPussy, Stupid, etc. And the lie is you thinking you are intelligent enough to "victimize" anyone once they are out of the crib, or ended sucking on their mothers tit. How are you this stupid? That isn’t what a lie is.
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Post by freonbale on Apr 7, 2024 15:23:21 GMT
Don't care what the world thinks. That sounds like a you thing. Faith is self-evident, unless you only subscribe to how others define it. Which you do. Did you ever ask a child what it means? Superior? You say I don't know you, but you don't me either. That term is meaningless to me. But I AM enlightened. Not bragging, just have no other word for it. I have resolved the conflicts I see in most people regarding science and religion, where I am fully trained in both. Most have training in only one or the other, and with training in one, tend to reject the other. I have found a path that allows them, in their full revelation, to coexist and reinforce each other. Do you remember when you found Faith? Do you remember how amazing it was? Do you remember how you used to be, vs how you were after? Can you say it did not change you? Now imagine that happening for both G-d AND Science, at two separate points in your life. You've felt 50% of what I have, and I am happy for you. but you are clueless regarding the other 50%, and that makes us VERY different. Do you have a better name for what I have obtained? Delusion? lol. Arrogance? Confidence? Peace? I call it enlightenment, but I'm cool if you go in another direction. Freon How do you know any of that is true? Like...that I've only felt 50% of what you've felt? Like...how could you know that? Please be specific. Because I've heard you talk science, and you are generally mistaken, or over-simplified, regarding it. You don't even know how much you don't know about it, that's how little you know about it. Freon
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Post by Monster Man on Apr 7, 2024 15:43:08 GMT
How do you know any of that is true? Like...that I've only felt 50% of what you've felt? Like...how could you know that? Please be specific. Because I've heard you talk science, and you are generally mistaken, or over-simplified, regarding it. You don't even know how much you don't know about it, that's how little you know about it. Freon After bragging about going out shopping while knowingly infected with COVID, you don't have much room to talk about knowing much about science.
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Post by petep on Apr 7, 2024 16:38:00 GMT
How do you know any of that is true? Like...that I've only felt 50% of what you've felt? Like...how could you know that? Please be specific. Because I've heard you talk science, and you are generally mistaken, or over-simplified, regarding it. You don't even know how much you don't know about it, that's how little you know about it. Freon Anyone who believed natural immunity only lasts two months and further believed the cdc’s claim that the vaccines prevented the infection and spread of an rna virus knows absolutely nothing about biological and chemical sciences. Of course you may be speaking about other scientific disciplines. I’m not sure which ones. But certainly not biological or bioChemistry.
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Post by freonbale on Apr 7, 2024 17:42:30 GMT
Because I've heard you talk science, and you are generally mistaken, or over-simplified, regarding it. You don't even know how much you don't know about it, that's how little you know about it. Freon After bragging about going out shopping while knowingly infected with COVID, you don't have much room to talk about knowing much about science. You could not have just made my point more perfectly, thank you. People who are clueless about science, really shouldn't make comments about it. Freon
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Post by freonbale on Apr 7, 2024 17:47:49 GMT
Because I've heard you talk science, and you are generally mistaken, or over-simplified, regarding it. You don't even know how much you don't know about it, that's how little you know about it. Freon Anyone who believed natural immunity only lasts two months and further believed the cdc’s claim that the vaccines prevented the infection and spread of an rna virus knows absolutely nothing about biological and chemical sciences. Of course you may be speaking about other scientific disciplines. I’m not sure which ones. But certainly not biological or bioChemistry. Lol, like I just told MM, you could not have made my point more perfectly. Because there ARE pathogens where immunity would be very low, and at the time, we knew very little about that strain. Turned out that time-frame was inaccurate, but that was determined empirically, after enough data was collected and interpreted. YOU thought it was true because your news told you so. Which is fine, if you want to be a guinea pig. You made a life and death decision based on too little info, because you thought you understood how science works. Best let the professionals do their thing, and rely on their massive difference in knowledge and training. I will do the EXACT same next time. But I bet so will you. Freon
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Post by petep on Apr 7, 2024 17:53:16 GMT
Anyone who believed natural immunity only lasts two months and further believed the cdc’s claim that the vaccines prevented the infection and spread of an rna virus knows absolutely nothing about biological and chemical sciences. Of course you may be speaking about other scientific disciplines. I’m not sure which ones. But certainly not biological or bioChemistry. Lol, like I just told MM, you could not have made my point more perfectly. Because there ARE pathogens where immunity would be very low, and at the time, we knew very little about that strain. Turned out that time-frame was inaccurate, but that was determined empirically, after enough data was collected and interpreted. YOU thought it was true because your news told you so. Which is fine, if you want to be a guinea pig. You made a life and death decision based on too little info, because you thought you understood how science works. Best let the professionals do their thing, and rely on their massive difference in knowledge and training. I will do the EXACT same next time. But I bet so will you. Freon We e been studying coronaviruses for over 40 years. By the time the vaccines came out we had an inordinate amount of data. The science community was aghast at the claims Pfizer and the government were making.
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Post by Fiddler on Apr 7, 2024 18:16:43 GMT
Because I've heard you talk science, and you are generally mistaken, or over-simplified, regarding it. You don't even know how much you don't know about it, that's how little you know about it. Freon Anyone who believed natural immunity only lasts two months and further believed the cdc’s claim that the vaccines prevented the infection and spread of an rna virus knows absolutely nothing about biological and chemical sciences. Of course you may be speaking about other scientific disciplines. I’m not sure which ones. But certainly not biological or bioChemistry.
Didn't require CDC 'belief" .. The Facts and Data proved that the vaccines were highly effective ..
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Post by freonbale on Apr 7, 2024 18:17:53 GMT
Lol, like I just told MM, you could not have made my point more perfectly. Because there ARE pathogens where immunity would be very low, and at the time, we knew very little about that strain. Turned out that time-frame was inaccurate, but that was determined empirically, after enough data was collected and interpreted. YOU thought it was true because your news told you so. Which is fine, if you want to be a guinea pig. You made a life and death decision based on too little info, because you thought you understood how science works. Best let the professionals do their thing, and rely on their massive difference in knowledge and training. I will do the EXACT same next time. But I bet so will you. Freon We e been studying coronaviruses for over 40 years. By the time the vaccines came out we had an inordinate amount of data. The science community was aghast at the claims Pfizer and the government were making. That first line you wrote is wrong. Not a little wrong, or part wrong, it is COMPLETE wrong. Just because a pathogen comes from a class of organism, does NOT mean all in that class behave the same. That is, frankly, an ignorant statement which, again, proves that you have no clue how science works. Wow. Freon
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Post by Monster Man on Apr 7, 2024 18:39:07 GMT
After bragging about going out shopping while knowingly infected with COVID, you don't have much room to talk about knowing much about science. You could not have just made my point more perfectly, thank you. People who are clueless about science, really shouldn't make comments about it. Freon Then stop commenting.
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Post by Mercy for All on Apr 7, 2024 19:03:50 GMT
How do you know any of that is true? Like...that I've only felt 50% of what you've felt? Like...how could you know that? Please be specific. Because I've heard you talk science, and you are generally mistaken, or over-simplified, regarding it. You don't even know how much you don't know about it, that's how little you know about it. Freon That’s it? You that’s what you base your self-assurance on?
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Post by freonbale on Apr 7, 2024 19:16:52 GMT
Because I've heard you talk science, and you are generally mistaken, or over-simplified, regarding it. You don't even know how much you don't know about it, that's how little you know about it. Freon That’s it? You that’s what you base your self-assurance on? What? Were we talking about self-assurance? You asked how I know you did not have the other 50% awareness in science, and I said because you have no training it, made obvious by your comments in here. A few of us in here ARE trained in science, and it's pretty obvious which ones. We cannot help injecting into the conversation that training. But you don't. You have a basic understanding of science, at best, and it is obvious when you talk about it. But prove me wrong. I'll say I'm wrong, for all to see, if you tell me what training you have in science at a college level or higher. Occupational training would also be acceptable. Freon
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Post by Mercy for All on Apr 8, 2024 0:19:52 GMT
How do you know any of that is true? Like...that I've only felt 50% of what you've felt? Like...how could you know that? Please be specific. Because I've heard you talk science, and you are generally mistaken, or over-simplified, regarding it. You don't even know how much you don't know about it, that's how little you know about it. Freon No, no, no. You said: "Do you remember when you found Faith? Do you remember how amazing it was? Do you remember how you used to be, vs how you were after? Can you say it did not change you? Now imagine that happening for both G-d AND Science, at two separate points in your life. You've felt 50% of what I have, and I am happy for you. but you are clueless regarding the other 50%, and that makes us VERY different. Do you have a better name for what I have obtained?" How do you know what I've felt compared to what you have felt?
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Post by freonbale on Apr 8, 2024 0:25:37 GMT
Because I've heard you talk science, and you are generally mistaken, or over-simplified, regarding it. You don't even know how much you don't know about it, that's how little you know about it. Freon No, no, no. You said: "Do you remember when you found Faith? Do you remember how amazing it was? Do you remember how you used to be, vs how you were after? Can you say it did not change you? Now imagine that happening for both G-d AND Science, at two separate points in your life. You've felt 50% of what I have, and I am happy for you. but you are clueless regarding the other 50%, and that makes us VERY different. Do you have a better name for what I have obtained?" How do you know what I've felt compared to what you have felt? I KNOW you have not felt what I've felt about the world, through the eyes of science. You simply do not have the training. If you truly understood the wonder in the vastness of our physical existence, you could not hide it. It would seep into your conversation, whether you wanted it to, or not. But I strongly believe you have found Faith in G-d. It too, seeps into your conversation. It is the resolution of the two together that I describe. You are saying you have this as well? Freon
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Post by oldtrapper on Apr 8, 2024 0:29:54 GMT
As N have said more times then you are capable of understanding, I never run from liars like you, PocketPussy, Stupid, etc. And the lie is you thinking you are intelligent enough to "victimize" anyone once they are out of the crib, or ended sucking on their mothers tit. How are you this stupid? That isn’t what a lie is. Ignorance really is a condition you mentally challenged revel in.
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Post by Fiddler on Apr 8, 2024 0:35:20 GMT
No, no, no. You said: "Do you remember when you found Faith? Do you remember how amazing it was? Do you remember how you used to be, vs how you were after? Can you say it did not change you? Now imagine that happening for both G-d AND Science, at two separate points in your life. You've felt 50% of what I have, and I am happy for you. but you are clueless regarding the other 50%, and that makes us VERY different. Do you have a better name for what I have obtained?" How do you know what I've felt compared to what you have felt? I KNOW you have not felt what I've felt about the world, through the eyes of science. You simply do not have the training. If you truly understood the wonder in the vastness of our physical existence, you could not hide it. It would seep into your conversation, whether you wanted it to, or not. But I strongly believe you have found Faith in G-d. It too, seeps into your conversation. It is the resolution of the two together that I describe. You are saying you have this as well? Freon
Remarkably accurate ..
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Post by Monster Man on Apr 8, 2024 0:45:36 GMT
How are you this stupid? That isn’t what a lie is. Ignorance really is a condition you mentally challenged revel in. What was the ignorance?
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