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Post by jasmine on Jul 16, 2023 12:11:51 GMT
There is no reason to fathom it. There is no reason to believe Jesus suffered such temptation. Why are you so obsessed with this and what does that say about you? The reason to consider it is that people experience this temptation. And for some reason it’s treated as a “worse thing” than other issues. Those are reasons enough. But how far would you take it? If you think Jesus was tempted by homosexuality, could he also have been tempted to commit pedophilia, too? I’m not sure it would be accurate to say that Jesus was tempted to commit every conceivable specific sin. It’d be sufficient to assume that he was, in general, tempted by sexual sin. |
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Post by Mercy for All on Jul 16, 2023 18:48:43 GMT
The reason to consider it is that people experience this temptation. And for some reason it’s treated as a “worse thing” than other issues. Those are reasons enough. But how far would you take it? If you think Jesus was tempted by homosexuality, could he also have been tempted to commit pedophilia, too? I’m not sure it would be accurate to say that Jesus was tempted to commit every conceivable specific sin. It’d be sufficient to assume that he was, in general, tempted by sexual sin. I wouldn’t say it was impossible. Would you? |
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Post by jasmine on Jul 16, 2023 19:35:48 GMT
But how far would you take it? If you think Jesus was tempted by homosexuality, could he also have been tempted to commit pedophilia, too? I’m not sure it would be accurate to say that Jesus was tempted to commit every conceivable specific sin. It’d be sufficient to assume that he was, in general, tempted by sexual sin. I wouldn’t say it was impossible. Would you? Nothing is impossible, but I would say it's highly unlikely that Jesus was tempted to pedophilia. |
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Post by Monster Man on Jul 16, 2023 19:59:31 GMT
There is no reason to fathom it. There is no reason to believe Jesus suffered such temptation. Why are you so obsessed with this and what does that say about you? The reason to consider it is that people experience this temptation. And for some reason it’s treated as a “worse thing” than other issues. Those are reasons enough. People experience temptation, period. A lifetime of it, surrounded by sin. Jesus doesn't have to have experienced literally every type of temptation and permeation of it for the life he led to be what it was and inspiring to the rest of us. Some sin is treated differently because it is a lifetime of sin, that there is no repentance. Its not like a homosexual just slips up or something, no, it is a lifetime choice for most AND one being pushed by society. It is a big deal because it is a big deal. If society was pushing us to embrace our drunk uncles as great and wonderful, that being drunk all the time is great and wonderful, then we would likely have a lot to say about that too. |
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Post by Mercy for All on Jul 16, 2023 20:32:40 GMT
I wouldn’t say it was impossible. Would you? Nothing is impossible, but I would say it's highly unlikely that Jesus was tempted to pedophilia. What if he was? |
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Post by jasmine on Jul 16, 2023 20:40:38 GMT
Nothing is impossible, but I would say it's highly unlikely that Jesus was tempted to pedophilia. What if he was? Then obviously He resisted that temptation. |
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Post by Mercy for All on Jul 17, 2023 0:01:22 GMT
Then obviously He resisted that temptation. Obviously. |
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Post by jasmine on Jul 17, 2023 0:16:20 GMT
Then obviously He resisted that temptation. Obviously. So can you please summarize the point you are trying to make in this thread? |
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Post by Odysseus on Jul 17, 2023 1:09:08 GMT
This is all rather academic, no? In what way? Something that "could be," "couldn't be," "might be," "not likely," etc., is not just academic (IMO) because of implications for others and the reasons that inform our opinions.
"Academic", in the sense that academia often dwells on subjects of little interest to the general population, sometimes at the waste of time and money.
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Post by jasmine on Jul 17, 2023 1:27:28 GMT
In what way? Something that "could be," "couldn't be," "might be," "not likely," etc., is not just academic (IMO) because of implications for others and the reasons that inform our opinions.
"Academic", in the sense that academia often dwells on subjects of little interest to the general population, sometimes at the waste of time and money.
Dude, you’re describing your own life. |
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Post by Mercy for All on Jul 17, 2023 3:05:19 GMT
In what way? Something that "could be," "couldn't be," "might be," "not likely," etc., is not just academic (IMO) because of implications for others and the reasons that inform our opinions.
"Academic", in the sense that academia often dwells on subjects of little interest to the general population, sometimes at the waste of time and money.
This is the Religion Forum. Obviously it's of interest to those involved in the conversation and has implications that are relevant to today. If you think it's worthless, why contribute? |
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Post by Mercy for All on Jul 17, 2023 3:07:01 GMT
So can you please summarize the point you are trying to make in this thread? That there are certain things we think are "too dirty" for Jesus, such that we cannot imagine he would even be tempted by that, which enables us to dismiss the struggles of others with some kind of self-righteousness. I think we underestimate both the damage of sin and the extent of God's love to rescue the human beings he created to love, regardless of the depth of their (and my) depravity. |
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Post by jasmine on Jul 17, 2023 3:12:29 GMT
So can you please summarize the point you are trying to make in this thread? That there are certain things we think are "too dirty" for Jesus, such that we cannot imagine he would even be tempted by that, which enables us to dismiss the struggles of others with some kind of self-righteousness. I think we underestimate both the damage of sin and the extent of God's love to rescue the human beings he created to love, regardless of the depth of their (and my) depravity. That really is a good message. |
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Post by Odysseus on Jul 17, 2023 4:58:39 GMT
So can you please summarize the point you are trying to make in this thread? That there are certain things we think are "too dirty" for Jesus, such that we cannot imagine he would even be tempted by that, which enables us to dismiss the struggles of others with some kind of self-righteousness. I think we underestimate both the damage of sin and the extent of God's love to rescue the human beings he created to love, regardless of the depth of their (and my) depravity. Was not Jesus a human?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2023 6:33:50 GMT
That there are certain things we think are "too dirty" for Jesus, such that we cannot imagine he would even be tempted by that, which enables us to dismiss the struggles of others with some kind of self-righteousness. I think we underestimate both the damage of sin and the extent of God's love to rescue the human beings he created to love, regardless of the depth of their (and my) depravity. Was not Jesus a human?
Apparently an incomplete human, one missing sexual urges. Perhaps he was "made" in a hurry and "whoever created him"* forgot to put that part in. * Was that himself? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2023 6:41:25 GMT
Why would anyone think Paul started Christianity? The claim is that Paul never met Jesus but extrapolated from him and create a new belief system that a Jesus never intended. They tend to appeal to the Gospels for what Jesus said and did but neglect the fact that many of Paul’s letters were written before the Gospels were. Well, given that the Gospels were written long after the events they describe, that doesn't invalidate the fact that Paul may have gotten all his infos second hand from the people planning to write said Gospels. It's amazing how often you "prove" things with sophistry. |
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Post by Odysseus on Jul 17, 2023 6:51:19 GMT
Apparently an incomplete human, one missing sexual urges. Perhaps he was "made" in a hurry and "whoever created him"* forgot to put that part in. * Was that himself?
Well, as a trained scientist, I find it difficult to imagine how such an anomaly could occur.
OTOH he could have been a .... well, no, I don't want to trigger the Christianists here.
Never mind.
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Post by Mercy for All on Jul 17, 2023 13:14:01 GMT
That there are certain things we think are "too dirty" for Jesus, such that we cannot imagine he would even be tempted by that, which enables us to dismiss the struggles of others with some kind of self-righteousness. I think we underestimate both the damage of sin and the extent of God's love to rescue the human beings he created to love, regardless of the depth of their (and my) depravity. Was not Jesus a human?
Yes. That’s my point. |
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Post by bama beau on Jul 28, 2023 1:16:11 GMT
So as bad a sin as some of you want to pretend it is,
Christ never mentioned homosexuals or homosexuality?
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Post by Mercy for All on Jul 28, 2023 3:17:57 GMT
So as bad a sin as some of you want to pretend it is, Christ never mentioned homosexuals or homosexuality? Did you read the OP? |
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