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Post by freonbale on Aug 31, 2020 16:14:20 GMT
The way I see it, prior to Trump, no riots. After Trump, riots.
They happened on his watch, so he is responsible.
Before Trump, no massive unemployment. After Trump, 30+ million unemployed.
Before Trump, pandemics managed. After Trump, unmanaged. 180 thousand dead. Country shut down.
I ask you Trumpers to look at our country before Trump. It was relatively peaceful, safe. No matter what gains you have now, to say our country is as peaceful as before Trump is a lie. To say it is as safe after Trump, is a lie.
The mess our country is in right now is a result of Trump.
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Post by Greg55_99 on Aug 31, 2020 16:18:15 GMT
Everything is always somebody else's fault with him.
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Post by petep on Aug 31, 2020 16:36:37 GMT
I didn’t blame Katrina on Bush, or the many hurricanes on Obama, or the school shootings during Obama on him or the riots like Ferguson under Obama, or the police shootings on Obama and I don’t blame the riots on trump.
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Post by freonbale on Aug 31, 2020 16:57:20 GMT
I didn’t blame Katrina on Bush, or the many hurricanes on Obama, or the school shootings during Obama on him or the riots like Ferguson under Obama, or the police shootings on Obama and I don’t blame the riots on trump. I think Bush had a terrible RESPONSE to Katrina, just as Trump has had a terrible RESPONSE to COVID. I don't blame Trump for COVID itself, that is silly. I think Obama had a good RESPONSE to the shootings, but to say your side didn't complain about Obama's RESPONSE to Ferguson is a lie. Trump has supported racist groups, has encouraged racial tension, has normalized hate speech. Before Trump, no riots. After Trump, riots. He's your guy. It's his watch. It was safer and more peaceful before him. Freon |
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Post by petep on Aug 31, 2020 17:09:56 GMT
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Post by freonbale on Aug 31, 2020 17:22:26 GMT
Where did I say no riots? Where did I say no strained race relations. I said that the BLAME for them was on Obama by your side. So why shouldn't the blame be on Trump for what is happening now? It's WAY worse now than under Obama, and that is Trump's (and indirectly YOUR) doing. Freon edit: I also wanted to point out that I believe that under Biden, these protests will die down. Under Trump, they will get MUCH worse. |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Aug 31, 2020 17:25:03 GMT
When will Obama apologize for the Fukushima disaster?
You people never take responsibility for these sorts of things. Disgusting.
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Post by phillip on Aug 31, 2020 17:27:20 GMT
Because he takes no responsibility. You didn't know?  |
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Post by Fiddler on Aug 31, 2020 17:31:47 GMT
I didn’t blame Katrina on Bush, or the many hurricanes on Obama, or the school shootings during Obama on him or the riots like Ferguson under Obama, or the police shootings on Obama and I don’t blame the riots on trump. I don't recall Obama ever inciting violence.. . Trump has on several occasions.
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Post by Fiddler on Aug 31, 2020 17:37:00 GMT
Everything is always somebody else's fault with him. Greg
Exactly.. He stumbled up the stairs in New Hampshire a couple days ago and immediately blamed someone else..
"They put a floor in like an ice skating rink."
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Post by phillip on Aug 31, 2020 17:44:36 GMT
Everything is always somebody else's fault with him. Greg
Exactly.. He stumbled up the stairs in New Hampshire a couple days ago and immediately blamed someone else..
"They put a floor in like an ice skating rink."
Inability to admit he's wrong or acknowledge any imperfections. He's the gold standard of evaluations of what narcissism is. Claimed he went down to a bunker when there were protesters outside the White House in order to inspect it lol.
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Post by RWB on Aug 31, 2020 17:49:28 GMT
I didn’t blame Katrina on Bush, or the many hurricanes on Obama, or the school shootings during Obama on him or the riots like Ferguson under Obama, or the police shootings on Obama and I don’t blame the riots on trump. I don't recall Obama ever inciting violence.. . Trump has on several occasions.
Obama incited riots quite a few times with his Racist rhetoric. Take Ferguson Missouri for an example obama and his stooge Eric Holder saying all white police officers are Racist same talking points everytime a black criminal thug was shot. Admit it Fiddler obama was the most Racist president in history. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2020 17:50:24 GMT
The way I see it, prior to Trump, no riots. After Trump, riots. They happened on his watch, so he is responsible. For the alleged guru of intelligence of our forum, you've committed some rather egregious and indeed laughable logical fallacies. Primary among them is your false cause fallacy, assigning causation where none is evident. And like all dedicated lemmings, you've jumped on the bandwagon by peddling this Democratic talking point fiction (hence, the bandwagon fallacy). Saying Trump is responsible is like saying that a strict father is responsible for the latest tantrum from his rotten, narcissistic little spoiled brat. These animals are protesting because their dishonest and perverted worldview is not being accepted by decent, normal folks. Before Trump, no massive unemployment. After Trump, 30+ million unemployed. No one with the slightest common sense buys into this nonsense; except for stupid liberals, everyone knows that these unemployment numbers are COVID related, and not from Trump's policies. Therefore, they are temporary. Trump's numbers before the pandemic were very good. Before Trump, pandemics managed. After Trump, unmanaged. 180 thousand dead. Country shut down. More fiction. Trump has managed the pandemic well. BTW, CDC just admitted that the COVID only (no underlying conditions) was 9,700. See Stu's thread on this. And Biden and the left wanted the country completely shutdown to a much greater degree than Trump did. Trump, by not exceeding his presidential authority, likely saved many businesses and certainly minimized the damage to our constitutional system. Your propaganda should be ignored. I ask you Trumpers to look at our country before Trump. It was relatively peaceful, safe. No matter what gains you have now, to say our country is as peaceful as before Trump is a lie. To say it is as safe after Trump, is a lie. The mess our country is in right now is a result of Trump. Freon Not even close to the truth. That false cause fallacy yet again. The violence and destruction are not the result of people who support Trump at all, but rather the fault of those who hate the man. The riots are caused by hatred, bigotry and intolerance displayed by the left only. Their mindless, baseless hatred and vitriol are not our fault in any way. |
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Post by Fiddler on Aug 31, 2020 17:54:49 GMT
Exactly.. He stumbled up the stairs in New Hampshire a couple days ago and immediately blamed someone else..
"They put a floor in like an ice skating rink." Inability to admit he's wrong or acknowledge any imperfections. He's the gold standard of evaluations of what narcissism is. Claimed he went down to a bunker when there were protesters outside the White House in order to inspect it lol.
"I am not sure I have," Trump said when asked if he'd ever asked God for forgiveness. "I just go on and try to do a better job from there. I don't think so," he said. "I think if I do something wrong, I think, I just try and make it right. I don't bring God into that picture. I don't."  |
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Post by freonbale on Aug 31, 2020 17:57:18 GMT
I don't recall Obama ever inciting violence.. . Trump has on several occasions.
Obama incited riots quite a few times with his Racist rhetoric. Take Ferguson Missouri for an example obama and his stooge Eric Holder saying all white police officers are Racist same talking points everytime a black criminal thug was shot. Admit it Fiddler obama was the most Racist president in history. Ok, but if you can blame Obama for that, why not Trump for what is happening now? You can't have it both ways. Freon |
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Post by freonbale on Aug 31, 2020 18:00:43 GMT
The way I see it, prior to Trump, no riots. After Trump, riots. They happened on his watch, so he is responsible. For the alleged guru of intelligence of our forum, you've committed some rather egregious and indeed laughable logical fallacies. Primary among them is your false cause fallacy, assigning causation where none is evident. And like all dedicated lemmings, you've jumped on the bandwagon by peddling this Democratic talking point fiction (hence, the bandwagon fallacy). Saying Trump is responsible is like saying that a strict father is responsible for the latest tantrum from his rotten, narcissistic little spoiled brat. These animals are protesting because their dishonest and perverted worldview is not being accepted by decent, normal folks. Before Trump, no massive unemployment. After Trump, 30+ million unemployed. No one with the slightest common sense buys into this nonsense; except for stupid liberals, everyone knows that these unemployment numbers are COVID related, and not from Trump's policies. Therefore, they are temporary. Trump's numbers before the pandemic were very good. Before Trump, pandemics managed. After Trump, unmanaged. 180 thousand dead. Country shut down. More fiction. Trump has managed the pandemic well. BTW, CDC just admitted that the COVID only (no underlying conditions) was 9,700. See Stu's thread on this. And Biden and the left wanted the country completely shutdown to a much greater degree than Trump did. Trump, by not exceeding his presidential authority, likely saved many businesses and certainly minimized the damage to our constitutional system. Your propaganda should be ignored. I ask you Trumpers to look at our country before Trump. It was relatively peaceful, safe. No matter what gains you have now, to say our country is as peaceful as before Trump is a lie. To say it is as safe after Trump, is a lie. The mess our country is in right now is a result of Trump. Freon Not even close to the truth. That false cause fallacy yet again. The violence and destruction are not the result of people who support Trump at all, but rather the fault of those who hate the man. The riots are caused by hatred, bigotry and intolerance displayed by the left only. Their mindless, baseless hatred and vitriol are not our fault in any way. I tried to read your response, but you immediately made me laugh when you talked about, 'the false cause fallacy'. That doesn't exist. Where do you get this balderdash from? Freon |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2020 18:19:12 GMT
I tried to read your response, but you immediately made me laugh when you talked about, 'the false cause fallacy'. That doesn't exist. Where do you get this balderdash from? Freon Are you kidding me with this? Are you seriously telling me that you didn't familiarize yourself with the types of logical fallacies BEFORE joining a discussion forum? Now, you made ME laugh and it was a bigly one. Novice, why don't you let this old Southern feller teach you a new trick or two:
Those are just the first page of a Google search of "false cause fallacy"
And here's a great example of a false cause fallacy: "I'm from California, so I must be smarter than everyone else!"
Here's more:
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Post by rabbitreborn on Aug 31, 2020 18:21:58 GMT
I didn’t blame Katrina on Bush, or the many hurricanes on Obama, or the school shootings during Obama on him or the riots like Ferguson under Obama, or the police shootings on Obama and I don’t blame the riots on trump. I don't recall Obama ever inciting violence.. . Trump has on several occasions.
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Post by Fiddler on Aug 31, 2020 18:28:09 GMT
I don't recall Obama ever inciting violence.. . Trump has on several occasions.
100,000 bombs beg to differ.
Sure..
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Post by freonbale on Aug 31, 2020 18:38:30 GMT
I tried to read your response, but you immediately made me laugh when you talked about, 'the false cause fallacy'. That doesn't exist. Where do you get this balderdash from? Freon Are you kidding me with this? Are you seriously telling me that you didn't familiarize yourself with the types of logical fallacies BEFORE joining a discussion forum? Now, you made ME laugh and it was a bigly one. Novice, why don't you let this old Southern feller teach you a new trick or two:
Those are just the first page of a Google search of "false cause fallacy"
And here's a great example of a false cause fallacy: "I'm from California, so I must be smarter than everyone else!"
Here's more:
I stand corrected. Thank you for pointing it out. I will re-read your response. Freon |
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