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Post by freonbale on Aug 31, 2020 18:41:06 GMT
For the alleged guru of intelligence of our forum, you've committed some rather egregious and indeed laughable logical fallacies. Primary among them is your false cause fallacy, assigning causation where none is evident. And like all dedicated lemmings, you've jumped on the bandwagon by peddling this Democratic talking point fiction (hence, the bandwagon fallacy). Saying Trump is responsible is like saying that a strict father is responsible for the latest tantrum from his rotten, narcissistic little spoiled brat. These animals are protesting because their dishonest and perverted worldview is not being accepted by decent, normal folks. No one with the slightest common sense buys into this nonsense; except for stupid liberals, everyone knows that these unemployment numbers are COVID related, and not from Trump's policies. Therefore, they are temporary. Trump's numbers before the pandemic were very good. More fiction. Trump has managed the pandemic well. BTW, CDC just admitted that the COVID only (no underlying conditions) was 9,700. See Stu's thread on this. And Biden and the left wanted the country completely shutdown to a much greater degree than Trump did. Trump, by not exceeding his presidential authority, likely saved many businesses and certainly minimized the damage to our constitutional system. Your propaganda should be ignored. Not even close to the truth. That false cause fallacy yet again. The violence and destruction are not the result of people who support Trump at all, but rather the fault of those who hate the man. The riots are caused by hatred, bigotry and intolerance displayed by the left only. Their mindless, baseless hatred and vitriol are not our fault in any way. I tried to read your response, but you immediately made me laugh when you talked about, 'the false cause fallacy'. That doesn't exist. Where do you get this balderdash from? Freon Ok, I don't see the false cause. Your example of the parent producing a spoiled child IS caused by the parent spoiling them. Trump IS causing these riots, through emboldening racists in this country. If you don't see that, you are choosing not to. Is he the ONLY cause. No. But to say he has no blame, or even very little blame, is a choice, and not supported by his own rhetoric. Freon |
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Post by Fiddler on Aug 31, 2020 18:45:22 GMT
I tried to read your response, but you immediately made me laugh when you talked about, 'the false cause fallacy'. That doesn't exist. Where do you get this balderdash from? Freon If you don't see that, you are choosing not to.
FYI .. Paleo is unparalleled in "choosing not to see".. a true artist.
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Post by RWB on Aug 31, 2020 18:46:23 GMT
Obama incited riots quite a few times with his Racist rhetoric. Take Ferguson Missouri for an example obama and his stooge Eric Holder saying all white police officers are Racist same talking points everytime a black criminal thug was shot. Admit it Fiddler obama was the most Racist president in history. Ok, but if you can blame Obama for that, why not Trump for what is happening now? You can't have it both ways. Freon yet most Democrats want to blame Trump BUT give obama a free pass for his Racist rhetoric AND yes Republicans are doing the same thing with Trump BUT There's still the Democrat controled riot zones that Trump has offered sending in help with and the Democrat mayors and Governors are turning Trump's help Down while allowing the Terrorist Black Lives Matter and Antifa criminal thugs to riot loot and destroy American citizens property. YOU CAN'T BLAME TRUMP FOR THAT. |
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 31, 2020 18:46:51 GMT
Time for Trump to go.
VOTE HIM OUT
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Post by RWB on Aug 31, 2020 18:49:21 GMT
Time for Trump to go. VOTE HIM OUT TIME FOR DEMOCRATS TO GO VOTE THEM OUT |
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Post by freonbale on Aug 31, 2020 18:50:07 GMT
Ok, but if you can blame Obama for that, why not Trump for what is happening now? You can't have it both ways. Freon yet most Democrats want to blame Trump BUT give obama a free pass for his Racist rhetoric AND yes Republicans are doing the same thing with Trump BUT There's still the Democrat controled riot zones that Trump has offered sending in help with and the Democrat mayors and Governors are turning Trump's help Down while allowing the Terrorist Black Lives Matter and Antifa criminal thugs to riot loot and destroy American citizens property. YOU CAN'T BLAME TRUMP FOR THAT. Who cares what people think about a past president? Why do you care? We are here. Now. Now is what matters, because we are deciding our future based on what is happening now. Obama is history. We don't want Trump's 'help', because he is the CAUSE of the problem. You don't put out a fire by throwing fuel on it. By far, the majority of the protests are peaceful. But fringe groups, like Antifa and the Proud Boys, are blowing things up and blaming it on BLM. Both groups are empowered by Trump. Antifa in opposition, Proud Boys in support. Lose Trump, lose the escalation. Freon |
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 31, 2020 19:11:56 GMT
Time for Trump to go.
VOTE HIM OUT
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Post by Fiddler on Aug 31, 2020 19:13:15 GMT
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Post by Greg55_99 on Aug 31, 2020 19:28:51 GMT
And THIS is Trump's America.
Can't blame Biden for this stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2020 19:36:11 GMT
Ok, I don't see the false cause. Your example of the parent producing a spoiled child IS caused by the parent spoiling them. And the "parent" that spoiled the brat was Obama, not Trump. The tantrum came because Trump halted the coddling. The left is rabid because they want all of the power and are intolerant of any who stand in their way. Trump IS causing these riots, through emboldening racists in this country.If you don't see that, you are choosing not to. Is he the ONLY cause. No. But to say he has no blame, or even very little blame, is a choice, and not supported by his own rhetoric. Freon Trump has caused NONE of the riots and none of the violence. Not a single bit of it. The left's rabid snowflakery is not the creation of Trump or any who support him, it's all a tactic of the left to silence opponents and gain power. If you don't see that clear and undeniable truth, you've succumbed to the talking points which is not something an intelligent, independent thinker would do. You and I both know that you've joined the left's effort to try to turn the narrative because the leftist violence is hurting Biden. And that wouldn't be happening if folks blamed Trump for the violence. |
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 31, 2020 19:40:08 GMT
And THIS is Trump's America. Can't blame Biden for this stuff. Greg
Absolutely right.
Trump has had four years, and has fucked up just about everything he's touched.
VOTE HIM OUT
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Post by freonbale on Aug 31, 2020 20:20:50 GMT
Ok, I don't see the false cause. Your example of the parent producing a spoiled child IS caused by the parent spoiling them. And the "parent" that spoiled the brat was Obama, not Trump. The tantrum came because Trump halted the coddling. The left is rabid because they want all of the power and are intolerant of any who stand in their way. Trump IS causing these riots, through emboldening racists in this country.If you don't see that, you are choosing not to. Is he the ONLY cause. No. But to say he has no blame, or even very little blame, is a choice, and not supported by his own rhetoric. Freon Trump has caused NONE of the riots and none of the violence. Not a single bit of it. The left's rabid snowflakery is not the creation of Trump or any who support him, it's all a tactic of the left to silence opponents and gain power. If you don't see that clear and undeniable truth, you've succumbed to the talking points which is not something an intelligent, independent thinker would do. You and I both know that you've joined the left's effort to try to turn the narrative because the leftist violence is hurting Biden. And that wouldn't be happening if folks blamed Trump for the violence. You say Trump is not the cause. Who have you talked to? You don't seem like the type to have a bunch of liberal buddies. I do. We all agree Trump is inciting violence. Again, who are you talking to? Freon |
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 31, 2020 20:30:35 GMT
Like chaos, social unrest, etc?
Then continue supporting Trump.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2020 20:31:46 GMT
And THIS is Trump's America. Can't blame Biden for this stuff. Greg It's neither Trump or his supporters that are wreaking havoc in this country, nor did the right go nuts when Obama was elected. The worst of it was over his tax and spend policies beginning in May 2009.
Biden is simply another malignant wart on the butt of the diseased, putrid perverted leftist animal that has only itself to blame for the riots.
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Post by Fiddler on Aug 31, 2020 20:33:38 GMT
And THIS is Trump's America. Can't blame Biden for this stuff. Greg nor did the right go nuts when Obama was elected.
LMAO .. Oh Cheesus, you're special ..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2020 20:40:12 GMT
And the "parent" that spoiled the brat was Obama, not Trump. The tantrum came because Trump halted the coddling. The left is rabid because they want all of the power and are intolerant of any who stand in their way. Trump has caused NONE of the riots and none of the violence. Not a single bit of it. The left's rabid snowflakery is not the creation of Trump or any who support him, it's all a tactic of the left to silence opponents and gain power. If you don't see that clear and undeniable truth, you've succumbed to the talking points which is not something an intelligent, independent thinker would do. You and I both know that you've joined the left's effort to try to turn the narrative because the leftist violence is hurting Biden. And that wouldn't be happening if folks blamed Trump for the violence. You say Trump is not the cause. Who have you talked to? You don't seem like the type to have a bunch of liberal buddies. I do. We all agree Trump is inciting violence. Again, who are you talking to? Freon Normal people with loads of common sense, i.e NOT the people that you've been talking to. Can any of these geniuses with which you converse name anything that Trump has done or is doing to "incite violence"?
Like the Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown hoaxes, the left has incited riots before the truth was revealed in the Floyd case. The knee on the neck was not the cause of death; George Floyd died of the excessive fentanyl that he shoved us his own ass. Model citizen that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2020 20:44:50 GMT
nor did the right go nuts when Obama was elected.
LMAO .. Oh Cheesus, you're special ..
Is there anything else that I can help you with?
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Post by archie on Aug 31, 2020 20:53:45 GMT
You are a damn fool. The democrat mayors and governors not stopping these riots are the ones responsible. Trump is not supposed to step in unless asked in your free country, unless federal property is in danger. If Trump sent in the military to stop it, you would all be calling him a Nazi dictator. Blame your (D) idiots that are in charge. Tell them to give Trump that call, and it would be over in a day.
Ha ha ha ha, give the Rat Pack a call, and it would be over in two days. Maybe one day if the Devils Disciples or Hells Angels felt like having some fun.
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 31, 2020 20:55:32 GMT
nor did the right go nuts when Obama was elected.
LMAO .. Oh Cheesus, you're special ..
I guess he didn't hear about the neo Nazis getting their pickemup trucks in Portland and mowing down people in the streets, shooting paintball guns and teargas as pedestrians?
Or is he just choosing to ignore that lawlessness?
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 31, 2020 20:57:39 GMT
What Archie doesn't get is that by sending in armed right wing militia and violent biker gangs, eventually the left wing protestors will arm themselves and start fighting back.
Then we WILL have a civil war on our hands. Courtesy of the American Right.
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