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Post by stugatze on Jul 31, 2020 22:50:51 GMT
F-ing violent savages need to be put down, even animals don't act like this!
Seattle Mayor Again Blames Trump After Rioters Blew Open a Police Station Using a Van Full of Explosives
By: Tyler O'Neil Jul 30, 2020 Days after antifa rioters terrorized Seattle, driving a van full of weapons and explosives with the mob in order to set fires and attempt to blow up police departments, Mayor Jenny Durkan focused her attention squarely on President Donald Trump, accusing him of running a “dress rehearsal for martial law.” She claimed that Trump’s efforts to bolster local law enforcement to combat a rising tide of crime and violence have “decreased public safety.” In a press conference addressing the antifa riots, Durkan claimed “the president wants” the violence. The riots on Saturday followed a protest in support of the antifa rioters in Portland, who have attempted to burn down the federal courthouse and Justice Center in nearly two straight months of violent riots. Seattle rioters used a van packed with fireworks, smoke bombs, stun guns, bear and pepper spray, gas masks, and more. At one point, rioters set off an explosive that blew an 8-inch hole through a wall of the Police Department’s East Precinct, the Seattle Times reported. Rioters injured 59 police officers.
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Post by stugatze on Jul 31, 2020 23:18:54 GMT
Marxists don't think a revolution happens overnight. It has to be built by "raising the consciousness" of the proletariat and petty bourgeoisie. We've come a long way since Obama. Back then we had riots in single cities, like Ferguson and Baltimore. When was the last time we had race riots prior to that? Was it the LA riots in 1992? We went 16 years with no riots, and then all of a sudden they are happening a lot, and they're getting bigger. And when was this stuff happening before Obama? These clips are from 2009-2011. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
My friend, .. the dirty left demoncrap party has no clue whatsoever that the riots and violence and savagery of BLM and ANTIFA, and defunding the police is NOT what the REAL American majority wants, .. and it fact, it WILL help Trump WIN a second term in November.-- the demoncrap party SHOULD have publicly DENOUNCED BLM and ANTIFA, .. but, they did NOT, .. thus, they WILL regret it on election day in November!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 4:11:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 4:12:56 GMT
F-ing violent savages need to be put down, even animals don't act like this! Are you referring to those DHS thugs who gassed and shoved all those mothers? The ones running around without identification, badges or warrants, snatching folks off the street in un-marked cars?
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Post by stugatze on Aug 1, 2020 15:07:19 GMT
Could this be the reason why the violence ended as soon as they left? ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ My friend, .. you don't really believe you'll get a reply from the leftists here, .. do you?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 15:32:03 GMT
Could this be the reason why the violence ended as soon as they left? It probably had a role to play but it would be secondary to the removal of the gestapo- the entity that was causing so much pain and anger and prompting the protest to ratchet up.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 15:40:51 GMT
It probably had a role to play but it would be secondary to the removal of the gestapo- the entity that was causing so much pain and anger and prompting the protest to ratchet up.Yes let's blame them because one can't behave when there's a police presence but somehow they can if they would just leave them alone. Yes, let's blame them to some extent but not for the silly reason you suggest. It's almost like you don't know what happened in Portland. I would recommend doing just that. Anything to keep you offline and away from political discussions.
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Post by Fiddler on Aug 1, 2020 15:42:29 GMT
It probably had a role to play but it would be secondary to the removal of the gestapo- the entity that was causing so much pain and anger and prompting the protest to ratchet up.So if I see a cop near me I should turn to the closest person and smack them in the mouth and just say the naer-by cop ratcheted me up.
Nitwit .. The protestors aren't going after each other ..
When white supremacists show up at BLM events the effect is to increase tension and the likelihood of a reaction. Same with Trump's gestapo.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 15:42:33 GMT
Yes, let's blame them to some extent but not for the silly reason you suggest. It's almost like you don't know whats going on in Portland. I would recommend doing just that. I'm sure you would but soon as they figured out I wasn't a lib, I'd be arrested. Yeah, that's the outcome I would be shooting for.
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Post by Fiddler on Aug 1, 2020 15:44:07 GMT
Yes, let's blame them to some extent but not for the silly reason you suggest. It's almost like you don't know whats going on in Portland. I would recommend doing just that. I'm sure you would but soon as they figured out I wasn't a lib, I'd be arrested and hung otherwise some celeb would bail me out and a judge would slap me on the wrist...and tell the victim that their head got in the way of my fist.
And if you were 'a lib' Trump's goons would haul you away ..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 15:44:18 GMT
So if I see a cop near me I should turn to the closest person and smack them in the mouth and just say the naer-by cop ratcheted me up.
Nitwit .. The protestors aren't going after each other ..
When white supremacists show up at BLM events the effect is to increase tension and the likelihood of a reaction. Same with Trump's gestapo.
Typical lib...blame the white people...all white people that disagree with you are racist. I'm so over the left's b.s.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 15:45:07 GMT
Maybe I am wrong. Maybe having this federal secret police attack protestors and disappear people in unmarked cars is all an attempt to bring peace and calm, and reinstate law and order.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 15:46:32 GMT
Yeah, that's the outcome I would be shooting for. No doubt in my mind that you would. For sure. Anyone (even the police, or people named Abe) attacking folks should be arrested.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 15:47:07 GMT
Nitwit .. The protestors aren't going after each other ..
When white supremacists show up at BLM events the effect is to increase tension and the likelihood of a reaction. Same with Trump's gestapo.
Typical lib...blame the white people...all white people that disagree with you are racist. I'm so over the left's b.s. He said white supremacists, not white people in general.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 15:50:39 GMT
For sure. Anyone (even the police, or people named Abe) attacking folks should be arrested. Too bad you don't see it that way when they hurl bottles and bricks at police from the back of a crowd of peaceful protestors. Why not ask me instead of assuming? If people are initiating force on police by hurling bricks and bottles, then I would say that's wrong. If they are doing so in retaliation to the police's violence, then that is very different.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 15:54:37 GMT
This exchange proves why this will always happen. One side justifies violence when they are doing it. Never there fault under any circumstance. Always some excuse. Interesting reaction. Its almost like you didn't read my post.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 16:02:29 GMT
Why not ask me instead of assuming? If people are initiating force on police by hurling bricks and bottles, then I would say that's wrong. If they are doing so in retaliation to the police's violence, then that is very different. Why do I have to ask you? So you know my actual position. Not asking led to a misunderstanding that I had to clear up. Yes, and I see a lot that cuts against the narrative that you and the right are selling. I have a hunch you haven't seen what I've seen. See? This is why it is important to read people and not assume things. I do think the police are allowed to defend themselves from people throwing bricks and bottles. But I don't think they have a right to do what they are doing to peaceful protestors. And I have a hunch you aren't aware that the police are acting violently, or initiating force. Is that what I say? What makes you think so? I think you are grossly ignorant about the actual goings on at these protests. And perhaps are looking past the violence of the police because you reckon yourself on their side and we tend to overlook the mistakes of our tribe. Its natural. But for someone with a neutral opinion of the police, some of their actions are highly disturbing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 16:09:13 GMT
So you know my actual position. Not asking led to a misunderstanding that I had to clear up. Yes, and I see a lot that cuts against the narrative that you and the right are selling. I have a hunch you haven't seen what I've seen. See? This is why it is important to read people and not assume things. I do think the police are allowed to defend themselves from people throwing bricks and bottles. But I don't think they have a right to do what they are doing to peaceful protestors. And I have a hunch you aren't aware that the police are acting violently, or initiating force. Is that I say? What makes you think so? I think you are grossly ignorant about the actual goings on at these protests. Think what you like. I appreciate that. I don't doubt that you wouldn't come out and advocate for violence to be used on peaceful people. But when it happens you seem to fall silent. Its like you don't have eyes for state backed violence and have no mind to criticize the police or the DHS. I would argue it is more common than you or your side would like to admit. Which is why the protests are happening. The police response has validated their critics. Why don't you comb through my posts and find a passage that makes this suggestion. No rush. I'll wait.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 16:20:44 GMT
So you know my actual position. Not asking led to a misunderstanding that I had to clear up. Yes, and I see a lot that cuts against the narrative that you and the right are selling. I have a hunch you haven't seen what I've seen. See? This is why it is important to read people and not assume things. I do think the police are allowed to defend themselves from people throwing bricks and bottles. But I don't think they have a right to do what they are doing to peaceful protestors. And I have a hunch you aren't aware that the police are acting violently, or initiating force. Is that I say? What makes you think so? I think you are grossly ignorant about the actual goings on at these protests. You seem to think there was no time or violence before Trump sent them in. I've made criticizing the violence of the police and the government a major focus on LNF (along with economic issues) since 2005, during Dubya's reign. Anyone who has been a regular participant/reader of this forum should know that. You've been here long enough to glean the pattern.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 16:22:52 GMT
I appreciate that. I don't doubt that you wouldn't come out and advocate for violence to be used on peaceful people. But when it happens you seem to fall silent. Its like you don't have eyes for state backed violence and have no mind to criticize the police or the DHS. I would argue it is more common than you or your side would like to admit. Which is why the protests are happening. The police response has validated their critics. Why don't you comb through my posts and find a passage that makes this suggestion. No rush. I'll wait. Now who doesn't read. It's clear you were talking about the feds and I was talking about police in general. Its clear I am talking about them both. That's a cute posture for someone who never criticizes the police and supports the DHS response. Having read your posts over the years, I believe you will always find a way to resort to insults and personal attacks. This passage is a great example. You can't wait to move the focus off the subject at hand and on to me personally.
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