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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2020 1:51:02 GMT
If you want to fence off the world, then move to a mountain top or deserted island.
Technically that has nothing to do with the discussion. Private property is not a fencing off of the world. |
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Post by Lomelis on Jul 26, 2020 2:23:02 GMT
If you want to fence off the world, then move to a mountain top or deserted island.
Why would people just give up property already owned? |
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Post by Odysseus on Jul 26, 2020 3:00:46 GMT
If you want to fence off the world, then move to a mountain top or deserted island.
Technically that has nothing to do with the discussion. Private property is not a fencing off of the world.
If you put up a fence between your private property and the world, you most certainly have fenced off - or out - the world.
I can see you are very dependent on your safe space.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2020 3:34:56 GMT
Technically that has nothing to do with the discussion. Private property is not a fencing off of the world.
If you put up a fence between your private property and the world, you most certainly have fenced off - or out - the world.
I can see you are very dependent on your safe space.
Deep words failing to make even a shallow point on topic. In fact, it's ridiculous as a reply to anything stated. Flimsy in fact. To the point of private property, that is exactly what a fence is for which is to provide a legal boundary in most instances. Privacy too. One has to be invited onto private property not take it upon themselves to disregard it as they see fit. A line that when illegally crossed is called trespassing. The end does not justify the means. In this case, they had an alternate route as well. Assuming you have a home and not living on the street, I'd guess that you have doors and fences. Windows that likely lock as well. Why? Are you fencing out the world or providing a safe space for yourself to live in? The fact remains that they were within their rights. The prosecutor will fail if it ends up in court and if by chance justice and common sense go astray, they will be pardoned. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2020 10:28:09 GMT
Deep words failing to make even a shallow point on topic. In fact, it's ridiculous as a reply to anything stated. Flimsy in fact. To the point of private property, that is exactly what a fence is for which is to provide a legal boundary in most instances. Privacy too. One has to be invited onto private property not take it upon themselves to disregard it as they see fit. A line that when illegally crossed is called trespassing. The end does not justify the means. In this case, they had an alternate route as well. Assuming you have a home and not living on the street, I'd guess that you have doors and fences. Windows that likely lock as well. Why? Are you fencing out the world or providing a safe space for yourself to live in? The fact remains that they were within their rights. The prosecutor will fail if it ends up in court and if by chance justice and common sense go astray, they will be pardoned.
OK, yes I have a home, with windows and doors. With locks. And a 6' high gate at the end of the driveway that would be difficult for most to scale. Plus 6' high fencing all round. Yes, if I found someone inside the gate without my permission I'd confront them and/or call the cops. But I wouldn't point a gun at them unless they were pointing theirs at me and the cops were delayed, and even then I'd probably be hauled in for doing that much. Yes, I'm both fencing out the world and enjoying my little safe space for me and mine. But although my home is at the end of a cul-de-sac, and it's been suggested we could close off the block and make it private, I have declined to support that. I think it would be wrong for us to turn a public street into private property.
So what?
What's your point?
If you don't know what my point is then what are you replying for? All you have been doing is spewing rhetoric that has nothing to do with the situation. Let's review a few of your comments. Not only myself but others have discounted each of your comments. First you worked Trump into it. Then you tried to blame a flimsy fence. Followed by you trying to pull the race card. You also mischaracterized it as community property and not private property which it is. Next was a ridiculous comment about fencing off the world and moving to a mountain top. When all that failed naturally you also had to take a personal approach about safe space. What exactly is your point when you admit you have your own fence? What you and your neighbors have chosen to do on your street is irrelevant to this couple. Every response from you has been countered with facts from a multitude of posters. None of your subsequent comments have discounted anything stated in response to your remarks. The point has always been that what they did they had a right to do regardless of how you may feel about it or a rogue prosecutor feels. The protestors were on private prpoerty and no amount of you trying to deny it changes it. The law states that they were within their rights to do as they chose to do. It's been pointed out that the protestors broke down a gate that was legally there for a purpose while they could have taken another route. You even referred to it as a "gated community". Now look at your replies to just those few points and ask yourself, what is your own point other than you just don't like their behavior since it doesn't mirror what yours would have been? Given the circumstances I sincerely doubt that your behavior would have been as you stated if you felt the threat was imminent as they did. How you would have reacted after the fact has no bearing on how they chose to. As it stands they have been accused, not convicted of anything except in your court of personal conviction. |
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Post by Odysseus on Jul 26, 2020 11:14:31 GMT
I asked a simple question, and your responded with a ridiculous diatribe, which by the way did NOT answer my question, unless your point was to be as hostile and obnoxious as possible, in which case you certainly succeeded.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2020 11:40:28 GMT
I asked a simple question, and your responded with a ridiculous diatribe, which by the way did NOT answer my question, unless your point was to be as hostile and obnoxious as possible, in which case you certainly succeeded.
LOL I suggest that you review your own comments before you cast stones. I politely made each of your comments look as ridiculous as they were starting with you blaming a flimsy fence as you called it. A piss poor attempt at playing the race card, as well. A few off topic remarks about Trump and his Gestapo as you phrased it in addition to denying that the couple was within their rights even when the specific law was pointed out to you. The fact is that it was indeed private property which you even made an attempt to portray as community property. Each and every reply from you has been disingenuous and unrelated to what was actually said. Who cares what you did or didn't do on your street. I not referring to just my comments either. You totally discount without proof everything that has been said in response to you. As to hostility again I advise you to read your own posts laced with remarks about "my safe space" and "go live on a mountain top" as just two examples. When you can prove they were not on private property, that the law is not on their side and they are indeed convicted and behind bars, let me know. As to your feelings on President Trump, I could not care less since the discussion has nothing to do with him. Your question that you claim is unanswered was answered multiple times through out the discussion by myself and others. You just don't like the responses, yet can't counter them so you go off topic. Do better making a case when you take a position contrary to the facts. Begin with staying on the topic. |
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Post by Odysseus on Jul 26, 2020 11:49:01 GMT
I'm done attempting to communicate with you, other than perhaps indirectly in passing.
Have a nice life.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2020 12:25:16 GMT
I'm done attempting to communicate with you, other than perhaps indirectly in passing.
Have a nice life.
That is fine with me. I afforded myself the opportunity to try and get some insight into your thniking by reading your recent posts. I've come to the conclusion that you calling me hostile and obnoxious is just projection of your own behavior onto me and others. The pattern seems to be that when you have no real response, you first go off topic. When that fails and the frustration builds as has been demonstrated on this thread, you begin to lace your replies with personal and and baseless personal innuendo. Case in point would be you stating that I want to fence off the world and if so I should live on a mountain top. Just where does that come from other than the recesses of your own mind? I said nothing to indicate that. All I did was take the actual circumstances of this couple and the comments you posted and try to show where your replies may be misguided. It would be one thing if it was only me doing that but some other posters seem to agree with me. It didn't begin as being anything personal toward you. I'm sorry if you feel it was. By all means communicate in passing but if it's makes no sense or is blatantly and ridiculously untrue, I will say so. That is not hostility. It's discussion. You have a nice life as well |
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Post by MojoJojo on Jul 26, 2020 13:55:04 GMT
The optics were bad but the full(er) story indicates they were protecting their private property.
As long as they didn't fire off any rounds, does it really matter?
Yeah, they were rich, white and probably privileged, but so what? It provided a great series of photos turned meme in favour of the SJW protests but they were just reacting the way many would react in the same scenario.
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