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Post by Odysseus on Jul 11, 2020 19:43:56 GMT
And yet herd immunity is America's default strategy for fighting Covid-19.
It's a strategy as bankrupt as a Trump casino.
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Post by Lomelis on Jul 11, 2020 19:49:48 GMT
And yet herd immunity is America's default strategy for fighting Covid-19.
It's a strategy as bankrupt as a Trump casino.
5% between April 27 - May 11. These samples are from 2 months ago.
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Post by Odysseus on Jul 11, 2020 20:03:20 GMT
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Post by Lomelis on Jul 11, 2020 20:20:12 GMT
May 1. Data from over 2 months ago.
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Post by Odysseus on Jul 12, 2020 0:33:06 GMT
The answer seems to be, probably not...
Does anyone here volunteer to be one of the five million who would die if we rely on herd immunity?
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Post by Lomelis on Jul 12, 2020 1:36:51 GMT
The answer seems to be, probably not...
Does anyone here volunteer to be one of the five million who would die if we rely on herd immunity?
"Absent the existence of a COVID-19 vaccine, any reasonable extrapolation of the data -- even at half the current case fatality rate, means we will see a seven-figure body count that exceeds 5 million deaths before we can attain herd immunity. ..." That right there is a horseshit estimate intended to deceive. You would not base such an estimate using the current case fatality rate (or even half of it). The IFR would be more accurate, but it also just an estimate, it would be a variable that if used would make the estimated body count significantly less....which is why they did not use it. Ody also doesn't understand that if the antibodies do not confer a degree of protection then a vaccine isn't going to work either. If our antibodies were not able to produce a level of protection necessary to protect from reinfection then we would be witnessing a large amount of cases where people are getting sick over and over from the same virus. It simply isn't happening, or the number of cases where it has are statistically insignificant. This is an article intended to fear monger.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2020 3:25:38 GMT
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Post by Odysseus on Jul 12, 2020 5:10:51 GMT
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Post by rabbitreborn on Jul 12, 2020 8:04:04 GMT
And yet herd immunity is America's default strategy for fighting Covid-19.
It's a strategy as bankrupt as a Trump casino.
If not herd immunity for a virus, what other options exist? Thanks.
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Post by Odysseus on Jul 12, 2020 14:19:17 GMT
And yet herd immunity is America's default strategy for fighting Covid-19.
It's a strategy as bankrupt as a Trump casino.
If not herd immunity for a virus, what other options exist? Thanks.
Have you been asleep all this time?
Social distancing, face masks, hand washing, shutting down indoor public gatherings, etc etc etc, all are valid measures to slow the spread of the virus.
Or did you miss all that?
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Post by phillip on Jul 12, 2020 15:50:06 GMT
The best way to achieve herd immunity is vaccination or resistance shots. Strangely, the same people that compare COVID to the flu don’t realize our yearly solution to fighting a wider spread of the flu isn’t for everyone to constantly get it. There is currently no concrete evidence that people obtain permanent immunity to COVID after contracting it, especially since not enough time has past to verify such a process long term.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2020 16:03:38 GMT
The best way to achieve herd immunity is vaccination or resistance shots. Strangely, the same people that compare COVID to the flu don’t realize our yearly solution to fighting a wider spread of the flu isn’t for everyone to constantly get it. There is currently no concrete evidence that people obtain permanent immunity to COVID after contracting it, especially since not enough time has past to verify such a process long term. The flu changes.
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Post by Fiddler on Jul 12, 2020 16:11:11 GMT
The best way to achieve herd immunity is vaccination or resistance shots. Strangely, the same people that compare COVID to the flu don’t realize our yearly solution to fighting a wider spread of the flu isn’t for everyone to constantly get it. There is currently no concrete evidence that people obtain permanent immunity to COVID after contracting it, especially since not enough time has past to verify such a process long term. The flu changes.
The coronavirus has mutated in a way that might help the pathogen spread more easily, White House health advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci said Thursday.
Research is underway to confirm the possible mutation and its implications, Fauci said, adding that “there’s a little dispute about it.” Viruses naturally mutate and scientists have previously said they have observed minor mutations in the coronavirus that have not impacted its ability to spread or cause disease in any significant way.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2020 16:45:02 GMT
The best way to achieve herd immunity is vaccination or resistance shots. Strangely, the same people that compare COVID to the flu don’t realize our yearly solution to fighting a wider spread of the flu isn’t for everyone to constantly get it. There is currently no concrete evidence that people obtain permanent immunity to COVID after contracting it, especially since not enough time has past to verify such a process long term. The flu changes. A pattern has developed. Wrongway talking out his ass again and running away.
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Post by atreyu on Jul 12, 2020 16:49:40 GMT
I believe Lomelis, rabbitreborn and ksu have all volunteered to die for our economy. I solute you guys. Tears of course will not be shed, because you didn't give a fuck about killing other people. The masks clash with your mascara or some such shit.
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Post by rabbitreborn on Jul 12, 2020 16:52:11 GMT
If not herd immunity for a virus, what other options exist? Thanks.
Have you been asleep all this time?
Social distancing, face masks, hand washing, shutting down indoor public gatherings, etc etc etc, all are valid measures to slow the spread of the virus.
Or did you miss all that?
Slow down for the purpose of what? Will the virus go extinct if we do all those things?
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Post by rabbitreborn on Jul 12, 2020 16:55:25 GMT
I believe Lomelis, rabbitreborn and ksu have all volunteered to die for our economy. I solute you guys.
You know that the economy is what actually keeps everybody fed, right? It’s what allows for civilization, you dumb fucking twat.
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Post by atreyu on Jul 12, 2020 17:03:47 GMT
I believe Lomelis, rabbitreborn and ksu have all volunteered to die for our economy. I solute you guys.
You know that the economy is what actually keeps everybody fed, right? It’s what allows for civilization, you dumb fucking twat.
Sounds like conservatives should start doing what is necessary to keep the economy open then. Glad we agree.
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Post by rabbitreborn on Jul 12, 2020 17:07:34 GMT
You know that the economy is what actually keeps everybody fed, right? It’s what allows for civilization, you dumb fucking twat.
Sounds like conservatives should start doing what is necessary to keep the economy open then. Glad we agree.
I’d only change “conservatives” to “anybody who cares about civilization”. Otherwise, yes. We can agree with everything I said and you said in the quoted area above.
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Post by atreyu on Jul 12, 2020 17:15:57 GMT
Sounds like conservatives should start doing what is necessary to keep the economy open then. Glad we agree.
I’d only change “conservatives” to “anybody who cares about civilization”. Otherwise, yes. We can agree with everything I said and you said in the quoted area above.
Then could you please tell your fellow idiots to start wearing masks?
k, thx, bye.
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