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Post by freonbale on Nov 10, 2024 21:40:30 GMT
An actual response from you that is on-topic will receive a response from me, Que. Then what was the gain putting Donald in power?The RWBs, Lomelis', and stus think they are going to have a great time these next few years, and yet they are going to get hit the hardest because of their (your) own voting decisions. Freon Some people would say its about who can better manage what is coming our way. That we are headed for a serious downturn is by anyone's estimation inevitable. We don't manage it by allowing millions in illegally, sending billions to forever wars that have nothing to do with us and wasteful spending at home. It is time to tighten the belt, reduce our spending and focus inward for the time being. Exactly. I will ask again, what was the point of putting DONALD in power? I agree with your points, but your solution is arguably the least capable of delivering the outcomes you want. Just because someone SAYS they will do something, does not mean they are capable of delivering it. You gave Donald what he wanted, a means to stay out of jail, and in return, he will play golf, and make his wealthy friends wealthier. He will give you higher prices, less privacy, and ultimately, less freedom. I only hope there are still enough patriots in government who can mitigate his damage. His loyalty tests are coming for them, that is a key part of Project 2025. Freon |
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Post by freonbale on Nov 10, 2024 21:43:42 GMT
Hey, you won! Congratulations. Four years from now, what are you expecting to have happened. I expect we will be in an extremely deep recession, and that we will have moved closer to a police state. Freon What I predict at the international level: I expect that the Trump administration will relatively quickly broker a peace between Ukraine and Russia. Not within the next two months lol. This will bring more stability and reduce energy costs further alleviating inflation as well as reduce the risk of nuclear confrontation. Western Europe will have to increase its defense and industrial capacity relieving strain on US forces. Arab countries will be brought back to the table with Israel, putting pressure on Iran. With a Russian peace there will be more isolation of Iran. Israel will be pressured to declare victory in Gaza and start the rebuilding process without a UN presence. Further isolating Iran and cutting it off from one of it's proxies. Hezbollah and others will then stop their attacks and the ME will return to a relative quiet similar to how it was just before Oct 7 2023. China and the US will be at a tit for tat trade war until a trade agreement is arranged that is more favorable to American interests. Trump and Lil Kim will resume sending love letters and the Korean peninsula will remain relatively quiet. No new significant military conflicts. A reduction, maybe even a full withdrawal, of forces from Iraq and Syria. What I predict at the national level: A broad reduction of regulations and tariffs will be used to entice more domestic investment. Red states will take advantage of this and experience even more economic growth. Blue states will not. A continued exodus from blue to red will occur. Immigration will be significantly reduced relieving strain on local communities. Insignificant federal tax reform, likely a reduction of personal income taxes offset by increases in tariffs. Pro domestic energy policies, including fossil fuels, will help reduce inflation. The department of education will readdress how federal dollars are used to fund state education coffers. Money will increase for STEM and trades and decrease for wokeness. There will not be a federal abortion law or ban. At my personal/ local level: My job will be more secure as Trump won't attempt to have me and others fired for not injecting chemicals into our bodies. Bodily autonomy.
My employer has for the most part already fled California leaving behind a bare minimum of workers to service our California customers so my position is safe in this regard.
Quality of life will continue to erode because I live in California and California is doing everything it can to make life more difficult for the middle and working class.
California will not take advantage of a more deregulated federal atmosphere but will instead seek to undermine it.
My wages will continue to be eroded by excessive state and local taxation as more taxes and spending were approved locally this election cycle.
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Post by freonbale on Nov 10, 2024 21:46:27 GMT
An actual response from you that is on-topic will receive a response from me, Que. Then what was the gain putting Donald in power? The RWBs, Lomelis', and stus think they are going to have a great time these next few years, and yet they are going to get hit the hardest because of their (your) own voting decisions. Freon Great? No. Better than the alternative? Maybe a little bit. Living in California I won't be able to experience or take advantage of potentially any of the good things that might come about the next four years. My vote was a vote to help prevent what's going on California from being exported to the national level which would truly fuck over millions of people. Leftism, like that prevalent in California, is a cancer. It just grows and destroys anything that is healthy ultimately leading to the demise of its host. This next term is going to be one of the treatments to prevent the spread and hopefully reduce that cancer, but there will be necessary follow up treatments to significantly reduce it to a manageable level. lol, what keeps you here? Freon |
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Post by freonbale on Nov 10, 2024 21:49:30 GMT
An actual response from you that is on-topic will receive a response from me, Que. Then what was the gain putting Donald in power? The RWBs, Lomelis', and stus think they are going to have a great time these next few years, and yet they are going to get hit the hardest because of their (your) own voting decisions. Freon Trump is not even in the office yet, and how is the economy doing? How is the stock market doing? Ummm, the stock market has been steadily increasing since Biden took office. Donald said it would crash. Do you deny he said that? Freon |
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Post by Lomelis on Nov 10, 2024 22:23:05 GMT
Great? No. Better than the alternative? Maybe a little bit. Living in California I won't be able to experience or take advantage of potentially any of the good things that might come about the next four years. My vote was a vote to help prevent what's going on California from being exported to the national level which would truly fuck over millions of people. Leftism, like that prevalent in California, is a cancer. It just grows and destroys anything that is healthy ultimately leading to the demise of its host. This next term is going to be one of the treatments to prevent the spread and hopefully reduce that cancer, but there will be necessary follow up treatments to significantly reduce it to a manageable level. lol, what keeps you here? Freon What keeps me in California? Family (we've been here for generations, well over a hundred years at this point) Friends Other personal and community connections Good weather and ecological diversity Cost ($) of relocation to an area without any personal connections Probably within 5-10 years I'll be moving elsewhere if California continues its downfall. Hopefully this election slaps a lot of people back to reality and sanity but it looks like California is already planning to double down on stupid. |
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Post by freonbale on Nov 11, 2024 15:24:48 GMT
lol, what keeps you here? Freon What keeps me in California? Family (we've been here for generations, well over a hundred years at this point) Friends Other personal and community connections Good weather and ecological diversity Cost ($) of relocation to an area without any personal connections Probably within 5-10 years I'll be moving elsewhere if California continues its downfall. Hopefully this election slaps a lot of people back to reality and sanity but it looks like California is already planning to double down on stupid. And what is your ideal target city and state to move to, when it is time? Freon |
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Post by petep on Nov 11, 2024 16:44:19 GMT
lol, what keeps you here? Freon What keeps me in California? Family (we've been here for generations, well over a hundred years at this point) Friends Other personal and community connections Good weather and ecological diversity Cost ($) of relocation to an area without any personal connections Probably within 5-10 years I'll be moving elsewhere if California continues its downfall. Hopefully this election slaps a lot of people back to reality and sanity but it looks like California is already planning to double down on stupid. There are many great areas in California. The main problem is the cities where the population is, and how they vote, which leads to some crazy state level laws. Prop 47 comes to mind. But what a massive change in how Californians voted 2024 vs 2020. I left in 1994. I have an aunt and 4 cousins still there. Southern California. And my daughter and son in law split the year between San Francisco and florida. But when my daughter is done with a program she is in they are leaving California for Rhode Island. Can’t beat the weather and mountains. And the space when you get out of the populated areas. Lake Tahoe is amazing. The beaches / ocean are 10x better in florida though. |
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Post by archie on Nov 11, 2024 18:11:16 GMT
Trump is not even in the office yet, and how is the economy doing? How is the stock market doing? Ummm, the stock market has been steadily increasing since Biden took office. Donald said it would crash. Do you deny he said that? Freon No. You know nothing. The market is up only because both Biden and Trump because of the corvid pandemic we had. Between the two of them they spent 8 trillion more than we usually do. And without the disaster we had, with Trump in charge we will all do well with investments. |
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Post by freonbale on Nov 11, 2024 18:42:01 GMT
Ummm, the stock market has been steadily increasing since Biden took office. Donald said it would crash. Do you deny he said that? Freon No. You know nothing. The market is up only because both Biden and Trump because of the corvid pandemic we had. Between the two of them they spent 8 trillion more than we usually do. And without the disaster we had, with Trump in charge we will all do well with investments. So you do not deny Donald, the 'genius' who said that if Biden won, the stock market would crash, was completely wrong. I actually don't think he was wrong, archie. I think he said it to make people like you feel good. And then when it didn't happen, he conveniently does not bring it up again. That's the con. That's the guy you just voted into power. He tells you what you wan to hear, and you forget anything he says that is BS. The next four years do not look 'great' to me, archie. Donald has told us what he intends to do, and if he implements them, then all our prices are going to go up. Gas for your car will either stay at today's level, or go up. With tariffs, your choice of products will decrease, because foreign made goods will cost more. For his illegal immigration plans, more law enforcement officers will need to be hired, and you are going to pay for, to enforce everything he (and you) want, and that will decrease your privacy, as well as your freedoms. Be prepared to have more that you do scrutinized by law enforcement. You wanted this. So I will say what I've always said when you far right sabotage yourselves. I hope it was worth it. Freon |
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Post by Lomelis on Nov 15, 2024 18:57:12 GMT
What keeps me in California? Family (we've been here for generations, well over a hundred years at this point) Friends Other personal and community connections Good weather and ecological diversity Cost ($) of relocation to an area without any personal connections Probably within 5-10 years I'll be moving elsewhere if California continues its downfall. Hopefully this election slaps a lot of people back to reality and sanity but it looks like California is already planning to double down on stupid. And what is your ideal target city and state to move to, when it is time? Freon Probably somewhere in the Texas hill country. |
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Post by Lomelis on Nov 15, 2024 19:05:29 GMT
What keeps me in California? Family (we've been here for generations, well over a hundred years at this point) Friends Other personal and community connections Good weather and ecological diversity Cost ($) of relocation to an area without any personal connections Probably within 5-10 years I'll be moving elsewhere if California continues its downfall. Hopefully this election slaps a lot of people back to reality and sanity but it looks like California is already planning to double down on stupid. There are many great areas in California. The main problem is the cities where the population is, and how they vote, which leads to some crazy state level laws. Prop 47 comes to mind. But what a massive change in how Californians voted 2024 vs 2020. I left in 1994. I have an aunt and 4 cousins still there. Southern California. And my daughter and son in law split the year between San Francisco and florida. But when my daughter is done with a program she is in they are leaving California for Rhode Island. Can’t beat the weather and mountains. And the space when you get out of the populated areas. Lake Tahoe is amazing. The beaches / ocean are 10x better in florida though. It really is a beautiful state but the problem is the people primarily living along the coast in the major cities. There are significant and almost incompatible cultural differences a mere two hours apart. |
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Post by petep on Nov 15, 2024 22:05:27 GMT
And what is your ideal target city and state to move to, when it is time? Freon Probably somewhere in the Texas hill country. Great place. Outside of Austin. Nice weather. Hills. Lakes |
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