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Post by HolyMoly on Nov 5, 2024 22:22:57 GMT
I'd have to read BNW again, but preliminarily I find 1984 to be better as a novel than BNW.Orwell is a good writer.
If you haven't ever read any of his other stuff, check out Homage to Catalonia, Burmese Days, Road to Wigan Pier.
I have read Wigan Pier. Very well done and entertaining in its way. Though it's of less importance, I always get a laugh out of Orwell's upbraiding of the wispy bearded, vegetarian, sandal wearing socialist eccentrics who put off sensible middle class folks from learning about the doctrines of socialism. |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Nov 5, 2024 22:24:22 GMT
You’re deliberately ignoring the point. That’s fine. We know Clinton and Clinton and Biden and Clapper and Brennan and Eric Holder were committing crimes or in contempt of congress. None of them were punished. If you doubt that those crimes existed, then just say that. You kind of already did. And so we know who the hypocrite is here. An approved establishment elite is held in contempt of Congress, and there is no punishment. An unapproved rival from an unacceptable political faction does the same thing and he serves time. You can try to perform the gymnastics necessary to make that ok in your mind, but it’s weaponization of justice. I don’t think either Holder or Bannon should have gotten anything other than perhaps a fine. But one goes to prison and the other receives no punishment at all. That’s not the rule of law. That’s the rule of man. You know what you choose to see. I know the rule of law. Innocent until proven guilty is how our system works, and even with Donald, I support that view. Why don't you? Indict them. I'm 100% for it. Why is your side so incapable of leveraging the justice system? Are they retarded? Donald was going to 'lock her up'. What happened to that? I'd call it EXTREME incompetence, when he had the entire government Republican, and STILL could not do it. If it's not incompetence, then the ONLY other conclusion is that there simply was not evidence to support it. And that's where we really differ. You KNOW this and you KNOW that, but I don't say that kind of thing until the evidence is analyzed in a court of law. The media is not to be trusted for those kinds of details, and will spin things in whatever way gets viewers. It's always been that way, and it always will be. But you hear Fox, and to you, it IS reality. You are NOT a skeptic. I am. I couldn't even imagine being as accepting of BS as you are. Freon If you don’t know what the government itself has said about laws being broken by Clinton and Clinton and Biden and Holder and Brennan and Clapper, then I can’t help you. This isn’t FoxNews telling me these things. You’re the one that reads right wing news exclusively. lol. |
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Post by freonbale on Nov 5, 2024 22:39:42 GMT
You know what you choose to see. I know the rule of law. Innocent until proven guilty is how our system works, and even with Donald, I support that view. Why don't you? Indict them. I'm 100% for it. Why is your side so incapable of leveraging the justice system? Are they retarded? Donald was going to 'lock her up'. What happened to that? I'd call it EXTREME incompetence, when he had the entire government Republican, and STILL could not do it. If it's not incompetence, then the ONLY other conclusion is that there simply was not evidence to support it. And that's where we really differ. You KNOW this and you KNOW that, but I don't say that kind of thing until the evidence is analyzed in a court of law. The media is not to be trusted for those kinds of details, and will spin things in whatever way gets viewers. It's always been that way, and it always will be. But you hear Fox, and to you, it IS reality. You are NOT a skeptic. I am. I couldn't even imagine being as accepting of BS as you are. Freon If you don’t know what the government itself has said about laws being broken by Clinton and Clinton and Biden and Holder and Brennan and Clapper, then I can’t help you. This isn’t FoxNews telling me these things. You’re the one that reads right wing news exclusively. lol. It's SO simple. Just indict. We've seen it can be done when there is enough evidence to back it up. If those indictments have not happened, if guilt has not been established, then we are obligated to view these people as innocent. It's the same for Donald. For Kav. For Thomas. I KNOW they are guilty, but I MUST see them as innocent until guilt is proven. That's the core of what it means to be an American. It's that we accept our rules and laws, and don't act like a mob because of belief. It's not a perfect system, but it works pretty well. But you clearly do not subscribe to this system. Freon |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Nov 5, 2024 22:47:14 GMT
If you don’t know what the government itself has said about laws being broken by Clinton and Clinton and Biden and Holder and Brennan and Clapper, then I can’t help you. This isn’t FoxNews telling me these things. You’re the one that reads right wing news exclusively. lol. It's SO simple. Just indict. Oh ok. I’ll go do that. Thanks. |
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Post by freonbale on Nov 5, 2024 22:48:24 GMT
It's SO simple. Just indict. Oh ok. I’ll go do that. Thanks. lol. And so will I. Freon |
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Post by petep on Nov 5, 2024 23:57:03 GMT
If you don’t know what the government itself has said about laws being broken by Clinton and Clinton and Biden and Holder and Brennan and Clapper, then I can’t help you. This isn’t FoxNews telling me these things. You’re the one that reads right wing news exclusively. lol. It's SO simple. Just indict. We've seen it can be done when there is enough evidence to back it up. If those indictments have not happened, if guilt has not been established, then we are obligated to view these people as innocent. It's the same for Donald. For Kav. For Thomas. I KNOW they are guilty, but I MUST see them as innocent until guilt is proven. That's the core of what it means to be an American. It's that we accept our rules and laws, and don't act like a mob because of belief. It's not a perfect system, but it works pretty well. But you clearly do not subscribe to this system. Freon Read up on how 2000 guns just disappeared. |
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Post by freonbale on Nov 6, 2024 1:31:32 GMT
It's SO simple. Just indict. We've seen it can be done when there is enough evidence to back it up. If those indictments have not happened, if guilt has not been established, then we are obligated to view these people as innocent. It's the same for Donald. For Kav. For Thomas. I KNOW they are guilty, but I MUST see them as innocent until guilt is proven. That's the core of what it means to be an American. It's that we accept our rules and laws, and don't act like a mob because of belief. It's not a perfect system, but it works pretty well. But you clearly do not subscribe to this system. Freon Read up on how 2000 guns just disappeared. I don't have time for your conspiracy theories. I live in REALITY. Join us. Freon |
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Post by thor on Nov 6, 2024 2:01:34 GMT
Read up on how 2000 guns just disappeared. I don't have time for your conspiracy theories. I live in REALITY. Join us. Freon I thought it was 2000 mules? |
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Post by freonbale on Nov 6, 2024 2:04:09 GMT
I don't have time for your conspiracy theories. I live in REALITY. Join us. Freon I thought it was 2000 mules? I think he has about 2000 brain cells left. Freon |
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Post by petep on Nov 6, 2024 2:16:33 GMT
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