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Post by thor on Nov 4, 2024 11:54:28 GMT
“There will be no curiosity, no enjoyment of the process of life. All competing pleasures will be destroyed. But always— do not forget this, Winston— always there will be the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless.
If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face— forever. ”
― George Orwell, 1984
Yep.
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Post by DaveJavu on Nov 4, 2024 12:06:35 GMT
“There will be no curiosity, no enjoyment of the process of life. All competing pleasures will be destroyed. But always— do not forget this, Winston— always there will be the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face— forever. ” ― George Orwell, 1984 Yep. Orwell somehow foresaw a future where trump gets reelected... Let's hope it's an alternate timeline... |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Nov 4, 2024 13:29:29 GMT
I just got chills. Orwell knew about MAGA in the 1940s. Only MAGA is intoxicated by power. Not journalists. Not Neocons. Not the Cheneys. Not the Clintons. Just MAGA.
And Orwell knew it.
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Post by genesee on Nov 4, 2024 13:49:55 GMT
Someone skeered of a free people self governing.
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Post by thor on Nov 4, 2024 14:21:09 GMT
Someone skeered of a free people self governing. Yes. And it is people like you, Cuck. |
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Post by Paleocon on Nov 4, 2024 15:00:58 GMT
“There will be no curiosity, no enjoyment of the process of life. All competing pleasures will be destroyed. But always— do not forget this, Winston— always there will be the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless.If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face— forever. ” ― George Orwell, 1984 Yep. You don't even have the self awareness to realize that you are on the side of the jack booted thugs, do you? Have you not witnessed the extremity of liberal efforts to censor and jail their opponents? That YOUR side has pulled out all of the stops in their quest for power?
It's no wonder you were a drone, a stormtrooper, in the military....it's who you are in private.
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Post by rabbitreborn on Nov 4, 2024 15:08:31 GMT
“There will be no curiosity, no enjoyment of the process of life. All competing pleasures will be destroyed. But always— do not forget this, Winston— always there will be the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless.If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face— forever. ” ― George Orwell, 1984 Yep. You don't even have the self awareness to realize that you are on the side of the jack booted thugs, do you? Have you not witnessed the extremity of liberal efforts to censor and jail their opponents? That YOUR side has pulled out all of the stops in their quest for power?
It's no wonder you were a drone, a stormtrooper, in the military....it's who you are in private.
They pretend that Bannon’s charge and Trump’s felony conviction are just Rule of Law objectives. But nobody previously cared about Contempt of Congress carrying a prison sentence. Nobody goes to jail for financial records misdeeds that resulted in zero financial benefit. They pretend those are just objectively prosecuted by Lady Justice. As if authoritarian regimes don’t always layer political prosecutions under such a thinly masked disguise. The weaponization of the justice system under the current regime is the worst in a very long time. |
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Post by freonbale on Nov 4, 2024 16:35:08 GMT
You don't even have the self awareness to realize that you are on the side of the jack booted thugs, do you? Have you not witnessed the extremity of liberal efforts to censor and jail their opponents? That YOUR side has pulled out all of the stops in their quest for power?
It's no wonder you were a drone, a stormtrooper, in the military....it's who you are in private.
They pretend that Bannon’s charge and Trump’s felony conviction are just Rule of Law objectives. But nobody previously cared about Contempt of Congress carrying a prison sentence. Nobody goes to jail for financial records misdeeds that resulted in zero financial benefit. They pretend those are just objectively prosecuted by Lady Justice. As if authoritarian regimes don’t always layer political prosecutions under such a thinly masked disguise. The weaponization of the justice system under the current regime is the worst in a very long time. You are saying that because they were ignored in the past, that their being ignored is a good thing? That we should never grow, and become better at enforcing the rule of law? That now that we are doing so (as the result of egregious abuse), the ONLY reason is political? That's awfully convenient, when predominately your guys are the ones breaking the laws so badly. Freon |
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Post by petep on Nov 4, 2024 17:18:23 GMT
These type situations are best represented in leftist nations. Former ussr, Cuba, China, n Korea, Venezuela.
The left knows this.
They continually try to pin what leftists actually do on the center and right.
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Post by rabbitreborn on Nov 4, 2024 17:32:45 GMT
They pretend that Bannon’s charge and Trump’s felony conviction are just Rule of Law objectives. But nobody previously cared about Contempt of Congress carrying a prison sentence. Nobody goes to jail for financial records misdeeds that resulted in zero financial benefit. They pretend those are just objectively prosecuted by Lady Justice. As if authoritarian regimes don’t always layer political prosecutions under such a thinly masked disguise. The weaponization of the justice system under the current regime is the worst in a very long time. You are saying that because they were ignored in the past, that their being ignored is a good thing? Nope. I’m saying that if victim-less crimes are historically lightly punished by fines or community service or not at all, and then suddenly they are severely punished with prison time, then that’s the weaponization of justice. If we start executing certain people for jaywalking, it doesn’t mean people who got away with jaywalking in the past were doing good things. It just means somebody is going after certain people they want dead, and using jaywalking as the thinly veiled bullshit legal reason to do so. |
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Post by thor on Nov 4, 2024 20:04:54 GMT
You don't even have the self awareness to realize that you are on the side of the jack booted thugs, do you? Have you not witnessed the extremity of liberal efforts to censor and jail their opponents? That YOUR side has pulled out all of the stops in their quest for power?
It's no wonder you were a drone, a stormtrooper, in the military....it's who you are in private.
They pretend that Bannon’s charge and Trump’s felony conviction are just Rule of Law objectives. But nobody previously cared about Contempt of Congress carrying a prison sentence. Nobody goes to jail for financial records misdeeds that resulted in zero financial benefit. They pretend those are just objectively prosecuted by Lady Justice. As if authoritarian regimes don’t always layer political prosecutions under such a thinly masked disguise. The weaponization of the justice system under the current regime is the worst in a very long time. Poor, dumb, Fobbit makes a false declarative statement he could have easily looked up. By 'nobody' did you mean you and all of your multiple personalities? |
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Post by thor on Nov 4, 2024 20:09:17 GMT
“There will be no curiosity, no enjoyment of the process of life. All competing pleasures will be destroyed. But always— do not forget this, Winston— always there will be the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless.If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face— forever. ” ― George Orwell, 1984 Yep. You don't even have the self awareness to realize that you are on the side of the jack booted thugs, do you? Have you not witnessed the extremity of liberal efforts to censor and jail their opponents? That YOUR side has pulled out all of the stops in their quest for power?
It's no wonder you were a drone, a stormtrooper, in the military....it's who you are in private.
 Cuck invokes the NO U defense.  This same Cuck is about to vote for a man who declared he would be a dictator. Because FReEDuM!!!!!!! Or something. |
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Post by thor on Nov 4, 2024 20:10:35 GMT
These type situations are best represented in leftist nations. Former ussr, Cuba, China, n Korea, Venezuela. The left knows this. They continually try to pin what leftists actually do on the center and right. |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Nov 4, 2024 20:12:24 GMT
They pretend that Bannon’s charge and Trump’s felony conviction are just Rule of Law objectives. But nobody previously cared about Contempt of Congress carrying a prison sentence. Nobody goes to jail for financial records misdeeds that resulted in zero financial benefit. They pretend those are just objectively prosecuted by Lady Justice. As if authoritarian regimes don’t always layer political prosecutions under such a thinly masked disguise. The weaponization of the justice system under the current regime is the worst in a very long time. Poor, dumb, Fobbit makes a false declarative statement he could have easily looked up. By 'nobody' did you mean you and all of your multiple personalities? Remind me of how long Eric Holder was locked up for his Contempt of Congress? www.politico.com/story/2012/06/holder-held-in-contempt-of-congress-077988 |
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Post by limey² on Nov 4, 2024 21:39:09 GMT
I just got chills. Orwell knew about MAGA in the 1940s. Only MAGA is intoxicated by power. Not journalists. Not Neocons. Not the Cheneys. Not the Clintons. Just MAGA. And Orwell knew it.Well, he spent his formative years immersed in a world where autocracy, totalitarianism, & democracy were tearing each other's throats out. He literally had his torn by a Fascist bullet, & soon after, escaped Stalinist murder by a whisker. You can forgive him being a tad antifa. And fa isn't new; wasn't then. It's easy to make parallels between antidemocrats of the past & now, despite differences of approach, degree, & honesty amongst them. |
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Post by HolyMoly on Nov 4, 2024 21:47:04 GMT
1984 turned out to be a fantasy, a well written one, but still a fantasy. Every time someone
tries to tie it to current American politics I smile. You will learn to LOL at Big Brother. And then
again Small Brother Orwell had his own "enemies" list. Oops.
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Post by demos on Nov 4, 2024 21:54:05 GMT
^ Huxley's Brave New World is more apt.
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Post by freonbale on Nov 4, 2024 21:57:58 GMT
You are saying that because they were ignored in the past, that their being ignored is a good thing? Nope. I’m saying that if victim-less crimes are historically lightly punished by fines or community service or not at all, and then suddenly they are severely punished with prison time, then that’s the weaponization of justice. If we start executing certain people for jaywalking, it doesn’t mean people who got away with jaywalking in the past were doing good things. It just means somebody is going after certain people they want dead, and using jaywalking as the thinly veiled bullshit legal reason to do so. Laws change with time, as do consequences. Used to be, if you had a joint of marijuana, you could go to jail, but now that's changed. Your argument is basically that all laws and consequences that change are done purely for putative reasons, and I cannot agree with that massive oversimplification. I like the fact that our laws are finally being enforced, and those who got away with crimes in the past, are suddenly being held accountable. This will make it so fewer in the future break those same laws, because they know those consequences will befall them as well. I can understand why you don't like it, because your people are the ones breaking those laws, and being held accountable for that, but they ARE breaking the law, and if you are cool with that, then you don't really care about the laws themselves, only the impacts they have on you. Freon |
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Post by DaveJavu on Nov 4, 2024 22:03:29 GMT
^ Huxley's Brave New World is more apt. I don't see it. Could you elaborate? |
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Post by DaveJavu on Nov 4, 2024 22:05:44 GMT
Someone skeered of a free people self governing. I suppose you got that from trump's ministry of truth. |
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