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Post by DaveJavu on Oct 20, 2024 11:15:26 GMT
People change. Who celebrates Julius Caesar anymore? I'll bet people celebrated say two hundred years ago, are only known now by a few historians. Two hundred years from now, things may change some more and people celebrated now will be seen for what they are or at least differently. There's something called evolution. You might get yourself acquainted with it. They make movies and shows about these figures. They lived thousands of years ago. We study them in history. Their tactics are studied in politics and military. I don’t know what else to say here. We also study insects, stupid. That doesn't mean we admire them. |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Oct 20, 2024 11:17:34 GMT
They make movies and shows about these figures. They lived thousands of years ago. We study them in history. Their tactics are studied in politics and military. I don’t know what else to say here. We also study insects, stupid. That doesn't mean we admire them. Lol. We don’t study one specific insect from thousands of years ago. Unless it is remarkable because it was preserved somehow. But it is studied because it is remarkable. |
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Post by DaveJavu on Oct 20, 2024 11:28:22 GMT
We also study insects, stupid. That doesn't mean we admire them. Lol. We don’t study one specific insect from thousands of years ago. Unless it is remarkable because it was preserved somehow. But it is studied because it is remarkable. Whoever said we shouldn't study these bastard, idiot? You're talking about celebrating them. Do you have trouble staying focused? Can you refrain from moving the goalposts, just this time? |
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Post by DaveJavu on Oct 20, 2024 11:35:34 GMT
Did anyone else here listen to Giggles (known as Harris) talk bad about the 1492 Columbus starting the settlement of the country, and how wrong it was to do that? And she thinks the open border is no problem for us now. I'm relieved to say that I didn't listen. "Relieved"? Why would you be relieved? Are you afraid she might have changed your mind had you listened? That's a very strange statement. |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Oct 20, 2024 11:47:03 GMT
Lol. We don’t study one specific insect from thousands of years ago. Unless it is remarkable because it was preserved somehow. But it is studied because it is remarkable. Whoever said we shouldn't study these bastard, idiot? You're talking about celebrating them. Do you have trouble staying focused? Can you refrain from moving the goalposts, just this time? They are celebrated in art. Movies and shows may show flaws, but generally Caesar and Alexander and the Khans and other great leaders are portrayed as heroic and innovative and natural leaders. Which they obviously were. |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Oct 20, 2024 11:48:07 GMT
Go ahead and read my posts again, and then read yours. And then try to calm down. I have no problem with Islam. I feel a closer kinship with Muslims than I do atheists. A humility that doesn’t exist with most atheists. A humility that comes from recognizing a greater power. Inventing a sky daddy is not being humble, it's being gullible and mindnumbignly frightened of death, fucktard. I almost missed this! A “sky daddy” reference, found in the wild! Amazing. Pure cringe. |
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Post by petep on Oct 20, 2024 11:55:35 GMT
Inventing a sky daddy is not being humble, it's being gullible and mindnumbignly frightened of death, fucktard. I almost missed this! A “sky daddy” reference, found in the wild! Amazing. Pure cringe. We all know the true god is the almighty state. |
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Post by DaveJavu on Oct 20, 2024 12:46:56 GMT
Whoever said we shouldn't study these bastard, idiot? You're talking about celebrating them. Do you have trouble staying focused? Can you refrain from moving the goalposts, just this time? They are celebrated in art. Movies and shows may show flaws, but generally Caesar and Alexander and the Khans and other great leaders are portrayed as heroic and innovative and natural leaders. Which they obviously were. That's preposterous. People don't celebrate them. Have you watched "The Silence Of The Lambs"? Do you think it celebrates Hannibal lecter as a murderer genius? I think you're a little confused about what people, learned people, think of these guys, unless they are fascists or morally corrupt of course, which some of them are. No class of people is totally immune to that. |
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Post by DaveJavu on Oct 20, 2024 12:52:35 GMT
Inventing a sky daddy is not being humble, it's being gullible and mindnumbignly frightened of death, fucktard. I almost missed this! A “sky daddy” reference, found in the wild! Amazing. Pure cringe. Fuck you, imbecile. Your myths and rituals mean nothing to me. You're the one cringy. Forcing people to obey the laws of a made up "superior being", when we know that these laws were invented thousands of years ago by crowd manipulating megalomaniacs. You're a bastard. |
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Post by DaveJavu on Oct 20, 2024 12:53:45 GMT
I almost missed this! A “sky daddy” reference, found in the wild! Amazing. Pure cringe. We all know the true god is the almighty state. What we, on this site, all know, is that you are a cretin and a liar. |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Oct 20, 2024 13:39:07 GMT
They are celebrated in art. Movies and shows may show flaws, but generally Caesar and Alexander and the Khans and other great leaders are portrayed as heroic and innovative and natural leaders. Which they obviously were. That's preposterous. People don't celebrate them. Have you watched "The Silence Of The Lambs"? Do you think it celebrates Hannibal lecter as a murderer genius? I don’t think you’re capable of having this conversation. |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Oct 20, 2024 13:39:35 GMT
I almost missed this! A “sky daddy” reference, found in the wild! Amazing. Pure cringe. Fuck you, imbecile. Your myths and rituals mean nothing to me. *force chokes Dave* |
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Post by archie on Oct 20, 2024 14:26:09 GMT
Did anyone else here listen to Giggles (known as Harris) talk bad about the 1492 Columbus starting the settlement of the country, and how wrong it was to do that? And she thinks the open border is no problem for us now. I'm relieved to say that I didn't listen. Well it shows for sure she is not too bright either. Columbus was not here, but her open border is. So she is much guiltier of what is going on than he was. |
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Post by freonbale on Oct 20, 2024 14:57:44 GMT
So we should thank the King and Queen of Spain, for funding him, right, because their decision DIRECTLY led to America, lol. Or what about the King and Queen's parents, because without them having sex, no DIRECT result in America, right? What an incredibly LAME argument you've made, and all because as a child, you bought into a holiday they taught you in school, and the idea of change is just too challenging for you. Freon Sure. I’ll throw in the Spanish royalty at that time. No problem there. Funding such a ballsy and legendary voyage is worthy of note. But you take it to the absurd when you just add in more ancestors. That’s not part of the courageous decision and voyage. Your entire point is absurd. You think Columbus was the only explorer who risked his life to make it across the ocean? Before him, at least several other groups made the trek from Europe. This is well known. The only difference, is that after Columbus did it, the full exploitation of the Americas became possible. The subjugation and destruction of native peoples and their lands, at a massive scale, became possible, leading to the modern version of the Americas he know today. It didn't even become a national holiday until 1937. And how many of the 35 countries that make up the Americas celebrate Columbus day? Except for the US, not many. Do you know where they DO celebrate it? Spain, Italy, and 'little Italys' around the world. Because it's a celebration of Italian pride. Look, I give credit to Columbus for getting the funding, finding the crew, and making it as far as he did, and while I appreciate that the USA would not exist without his contribution, MANY others contributed just as well that do NOT have the negative baggage that Columbus does. If he had just discovered, and not personally exploited, the new lands, he'd be someone I could respect and admire, but he very intentionally, very clearly did what he did for money and power. I don't value either, but I guess you do. Freon |
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Post by thor on Oct 20, 2024 14:59:37 GMT
Btw, I'll bet you didn't cry when the Russians toppled down the statues of Stalin and Lenin! did you? I think modern people should more harshly judge modern monsters. And try to have some perspective with people from ancient times and offer a little charity. We tend to do the opposite. Modern monsters, if victorious, are glorified. And we shake our fists at people from much more savage times. Fobbit explains his worship of Trump. |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Oct 20, 2024 15:16:26 GMT
Sure. I’ll throw in the Spanish royalty at that time. No problem there. Funding such a ballsy and legendary voyage is worthy of note. But you take it to the absurd when you just add in more ancestors. That’s not part of the courageous decision and voyage. Your entire point is absurd. You think Columbus was the only explorer who risked his life to make it across the ocean? Before him, at least several other groups made the trek from Europe. This is well known. The only difference, is that after Columbus did it, the full exploitation of the Americas became possible. Yes. He actually did it. That’s the big difference. Pretty important difference. Thanks. |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Oct 20, 2024 15:16:57 GMT
I think modern people should more harshly judge modern monsters. And try to have some perspective with people from ancient times and offer a little charity. We tend to do the opposite. Modern monsters, if victorious, are glorified. And we shake our fists at people from much more savage times. Fobbit explains his worship of Trump. He’s like a god to me! |
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Post by DaveJavu on Oct 20, 2024 15:19:02 GMT
That's preposterous. People don't celebrate them. Have you watched "The Silence Of The Lambs"? Do you think it celebrates Hannibal lecter as a murderer genius? I don’t think you’re capable of having this conversation. That's because you're an imbecile. |
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Post by DaveJavu on Oct 20, 2024 15:19:56 GMT
Fuck you, imbecile. Your myths and rituals mean nothing to me. *force chokes Dave* Idiot. |
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Post by Paleocon on Oct 20, 2024 15:24:12 GMT
Did anyone else here listen to Giggles (known as Harris) talk bad about the 1492 Columbus starting the settlement of the country, and how wrong it was to do that? And she thinks the open border is no problem for us now. Christopher Columbus was a mass murderer ..
We have an exhaustive, and gruesome, first-hand account of the horrors Columbus and his followers brought to the Caribbean from Bartolome de las Casas, a Dominican priest who documented his experience in Cuba and elsewhere in his “History of the Indies.”
In Book Two de las Casas writes, “Endless testimonies … prove the mild and pacific temperament of the natives … But our work was to exasperate, ravage, kill, mangle and destroy; small wonder, then, if they tried to kill one of us now and then …The admiral (Columbus), it is true, was blind as those who came after him, and he was so anxious to please the King that he committed irreparable crimes against the Indians…”
Of the Arawaks enslaved to work in the mines we hear, “Thus husbands and wives were together only once every eight or nine months and when they meet they are so exhausted and depressed on both sides …they cease to procreate. As for the newly born, they died early because their mothers, overworked and famished, had no milk to nurse them, and for this reason, while I was in Cuba, 7,000 children died in three months.
“Some mothers even drowned their babies from sheer desperation. In this way, husbands died in the mines, wives died at work, and children died from lack of milk …and in a short time this land which was so great, so powerful and fertile, was depopulated. My eyes have seen these acts so foreign to human nature, and now I tremble as I write…”
In a 2012 Columbia interview, Delaney further explained that Columbus found the native peoples to be “very intelligent” and his relations with them “tended to be benign.” He gave strict instructions to the settlers to “treat the native people with respect,” though some of his men rebelled and disobeyed his orders, particularly during his long absences, Delaney added.
You seem incapable of being historically honest and objective, preferring to only peddle a biased one sided cherry picked narrative that fits your own ideas.
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