thor
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Post by thor on Oct 23, 2024 13:07:59 GMT
It's pro-woman in the sense of "women should do what they want." Fair enough. I understand the sentiment. But as our culture (and the global culture) become increasingly hedonistic and materialistic, you see how this ends without some sort of revival or cultural revolution?Immigration doesn't solve this. And I'm not putting it all on women, by the way. Men are equally culpable. People doing "what they want" is desired in a free society. But it can be corrupted to the detriment of humanity as a whole. When it is culturally encouraged to act on immediate gratification at the age of 18 or 24, without understanding long term consequences, the end result for society broadly can be logically predicted. Taken to the extreme, if people want to spend their time in some future (and functioning) version of the metaverse, how will that impact quality of life and long-term happiness of humanity? This all will be quite an arduous journey for future generations to travel. Debt loads and shrinking population and fewer children paying for entitlements, etc. The math doesn't work. Some of this can be understood as a function of the increasing cost of living problem facing all of us, women included. Women want independence, sure, but they also work just to help their families survive, or perhaps to enjoy a lifestyle they couldn't have without two incomes. Do you see this trend reversing at all? Towards a lower cost of living, or people wanting an increasingly easier lifestyle? We tend to spend more on homes and cars and luxury items now compared to generations past and financing all of it requires a lot of money. People are forgoing having kids early or having them at all to chase materialistic goals or to simply have fun. It's selfish, certainly compared to earlier periods in our history. Other than try to reduce the cost of living, perhaps get some maternity leave legislation past, or some tax credits, etc I don't know what else we do. Neither do I. But I will fight back against those (not necessarily you) who don't see any problem at all with it. Recognition of the problem seems a reasonable step one. Fobbit tells us he wants to use government power to control people and make them stop doing thins he disapproves of. 'Libertarian', MFA.  |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Oct 23, 2024 13:45:43 GMT
Fair enough. I understand the sentiment. But as our culture (and the global culture) become increasingly hedonistic and materialistic, you see how this ends without some sort of revival or cultural revolution?Immigration doesn't solve this. And I'm not putting it all on women, by the way. Men are equally culpable. People doing "what they want" is desired in a free society. But it can be corrupted to the detriment of humanity as a whole. When it is culturally encouraged to act on immediate gratification at the age of 18 or 24, without understanding long term consequences, the end result for society broadly can be logically predicted. Taken to the extreme, if people want to spend their time in some future (and functioning) version of the metaverse, how will that impact quality of life and long-term happiness of humanity? This all will be quite an arduous journey for future generations to travel. Debt loads and shrinking population and fewer children paying for entitlements, etc. The math doesn't work. Do you see this trend reversing at all? Towards a lower cost of living, or people wanting an increasingly easier lifestyle? Neither do I. But I will fight back against those (not necessarily you) who don't see any problem at all with it. Recognition of the problem seems a reasonable step one. Fobbit tells us he wants to use government power to control people and make them stop doing thins he disapproves of. 'Libertarian', MFA. It’s obvious you’re unable to comprehend pretty straightforward arguments. |
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