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Post by queshank on Oct 15, 2024 13:23:25 GMT
I'm seeing a lot of people from Carville to Obama fretting about blacks voting for Trump. "That's not acceptable" Obama lectures lol.
I don't get it.
Kamala chose a white man to be her husband.
Why can't black people choose a white man to be president?
Queshank
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Post by rabbitreborn on Oct 15, 2024 13:43:45 GMT
I'm seeing a lot of people from Carville to Obama fretting about blacks voting for Trump. "That's not acceptable" Obama lectures lol.
I don't get it.
Kamala chose a white man to be her husband.
Why can't black people choose a white man to be president?
Queshank
Because it’s racist then. |
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Post by thecitizen on Oct 15, 2024 14:03:47 GMT
I'm seeing a lot of people from Carville to Obama fretting about blacks voting for Trump. "That's not acceptable" Obama lectures lol.
I don't get it.
Kamala chose a white man to be her husband.
Why can't black people choose a white man to be president?
Queshank
They chose Biden, didn't they |
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Post by queshank on Oct 15, 2024 14:31:53 GMT
I'm seeing a lot of people from Carville to Obama fretting about blacks voting for Trump. "That's not acceptable" Obama lectures lol.
I don't get it.
Kamala chose a white man to be her husband.
Why can't black people choose a white man to be president?
Queshank
They chose Biden, didn't they Was there a black candidate? I'm thinking you're not understanding the comparison here.
There are millions of black men Kamala could have chosen to be her husband.
She chose a white man despite having the option of a black man.
Are you caught up?
Queshank
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Post by queshank on Oct 15, 2024 14:33:35 GMT
I'm seeing a lot of people from Carville to Obama fretting about blacks voting for Trump. "That's not acceptable" Obama lectures lol.
I don't get it.
Kamala chose a white man to be her husband.
Why can't black people choose a white man to be president?
Queshank
Because it’s racist then.
Clearly. And offensive to boot based on the visceral reactions and the hectoring I'm seeing from the Democrats.
Altho I wonder how many black men are seeing articles written about the Met Gala promoting "black dandyism" and thinking "holy shit this is what supporting Democrat culture has done to us" and understandably run screaming the other way.
Queshank
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Post by Greg55_99 on Oct 15, 2024 14:34:55 GMT
I'm seeing a lot of people from Carville to Obama fretting about blacks voting for Trump. "That's not acceptable" Obama lectures lol.
I don't get it.
Kamala chose a white man to be her husband.
Why can't black people choose a white man to be president?
Queshank
We did. Bill Clinton. Greg |
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Post by queshank on Oct 15, 2024 14:36:56 GMT
I'm seeing a lot of people from Carville to Obama fretting about blacks voting for Trump. "That's not acceptable" Obama lectures lol.
I don't get it.
Kamala chose a white man to be her husband.
Why can't black people choose a white man to be president?
Queshank
We did. Bill Clinton. Greg You chose Bill Clinton over a black woman? Tell me more.
Queshank
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Post by Greg55_99 on Oct 15, 2024 14:38:36 GMT
We did. Bill Clinton. Greg You chose Bill Clinton over a black woman? Tell me more.
Queshank
That wasn't your original question. Greg |
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Post by thecitizen on Oct 15, 2024 14:38:41 GMT
They chose Biden, didn't they Was there a black candidate? I'm thinking you're not understanding the comparison here.
There are millions of black men Kamala could have chosen to be her husband.
She chose a white man despite having the option of a black man.
Are you caught up?
Queshank
You are not understanding. People choose the best candidate and women choose the best husband. Why is it always about race to you MAGA people. |
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Post by queshank on Oct 15, 2024 14:40:20 GMT
Was there a black candidate? I'm thinking you're not understanding the comparison here.
There are millions of black men Kamala could have chosen to be her husband.
She chose a white man despite having the option of a black man.
Are you caught up?
Queshank
You are not understanding. People choose the best candidate and women choose the best husband. Why is it always about race to you MAGA people. Now you're gettin' it.
Kamala prefers white men. They're "the best."
So, especially in the face of that belief of Kamala's, why would it be so hard to understand black men choosing someone other than Kamala?
Queshank
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Post by thecitizen on Oct 15, 2024 14:45:16 GMT
You are not understanding. People choose the best candidate and women choose the best husband. Why is it always about race to you MAGA people. Now you're gettin' it.
Kamala prefers white men. They're "the best."
So, especially in the face of that belief of Kamala's, why would it be so hard to understand black men choosing someone other than Kamala?
Queshank
So now you are making up shit about Harris. |
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Post by RinsePrius on Oct 15, 2024 14:53:46 GMT
I'm seeing a lot of people from Carville to Obama fretting about blacks voting for Trump. "That's not acceptable" Obama lectures lol.
I don't get it.
Kamala chose a white man to be her husband.
Why can't black people choose a white man to be president?
Queshank
It wouldn't be notable if the white man they chose had friendly policies. It's only a story because the policies are outright hostile to them. We are so caught up in narrative and culture war debates that we forget "political gravity" exists and can be quantified and measured in dollars and cents. Put in other words, broken, under-founded and failing social services & institutions have a real world effect on people's lives. It's not theoretical, its caloric. |
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Post by queshank on Oct 15, 2024 15:08:13 GMT
I'm seeing a lot of people from Carville to Obama fretting about blacks voting for Trump. "That's not acceptable" Obama lectures lol.
I don't get it.
Kamala chose a white man to be her husband.
Why can't black people choose a white man to be president?
Queshank
It wouldn't be notable if the white man they chose had friendly policies. It's only a story because the policies are outright hostile to them. We are so caught up in narrative and culture war debates that we forget "political gravity" exists and can be quantified and measured in dollars and cents. Put in other words, broken, under-founded and failing social services & institutions have a real world effect on people's lives. It's not theoretical, its caloric.
In what way are policies "outright hostile" to black, specifically, men?
The only thing I've noticed people forgetting is the need to tie their arguments to reality. It's become rampant especially on the left in recent years.
Is this another one of those "I'm smarter than they are so I know what's in their best interests" arguments?
Queshank
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Post by RinsePrius on Oct 15, 2024 15:13:20 GMT
It wouldn't be notable if the white man they chose had friendly policies. It's only a story because the policies are outright hostile to them. We are so caught up in narrative and culture war debates that we forget "political gravity" exists and can be quantified and measured in dollars and cents. Put in other words, broken, under-founded and failing social services & institutions have a real world effect on people's lives. It's not theoretical, its caloric.
In what way are policies "outright hostile" to black, specifically, men?
The only thing I've noticed people forgetting is the need to tie their arguments to reality. It's become rampant especially on the left in recent years.
Is this another one of those "I'm smarter than they are so I know what's in their best interests" arguments?
Queshank
In an economic way. The support for capital over labor. It's not about being smart, it's about being moored to the facts and staying focused on the goal. |
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Post by queshank on Oct 15, 2024 15:17:30 GMT
In what way are policies "outright hostile" to black, specifically, men?
The only thing I've noticed people forgetting is the need to tie their arguments to reality. It's become rampant especially on the left in recent years.
Is this another one of those "I'm smarter than they are so I know what's in their best interests" arguments?
Queshank
In an economic way. The support for capital over labor. It's not about being smart, it's about being moored to the facts and staying focused on the goal.
So nothing to do with black men then?
Queshank
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Post by RinsePrius on Oct 15, 2024 15:18:47 GMT
In an economic way. The support for capital over labor. It's not about being smart, it's about being moored to the facts and staying focused on the goal.
So nothing to do with black men then?
Queshank
Not specifically, no. It's a specific instance of a more general question: why does anyone south of 1 mil net worth even entertain the idea of supporting the GOP? |
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Post by Fiddler on Oct 15, 2024 15:32:32 GMT
So nothing to do with black men then?
Queshank
Not specifically, no. It's a specific instance of a more general question: why does anyone south of 1 mil net worth even entertain the idea of supporting the GOP? Because there is a concerted effort by conservative (bullshit.. conservatives are extinct) right-wing white men to promote a "I got mine.. you get yours.." narrative..
The fact that they were systemically aided in gaining that wealth.. the "I got mine.." part .. they reject out of hand ..
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Post by queshank on Oct 15, 2024 15:33:33 GMT
So nothing to do with black men then?
Queshank
Not specifically, no. It's a specific instance of a more general question: why does anyone south of 1 mil net worth even entertain the idea of supporting the GOP?
Except it's specifically being targeted at black men. That's the point of this thread. Black men are being lectured about choosing a white man to be president over a black woman. Perhaps you need to familiarize yourself with what Obama and Carville and other pundits are saying? I'm just suggesting perhaps Kamala choosing a white man to be her husband is a contributing factor.
What is it you're finding so hard to understand about how the richest people in America support the Democrats? I filled a whole thread with data and evidence demonstrating this not long ago, in response to you. I'm beginning to think you're not as focused on facts as you suggest ...
Queshank
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Post by RinsePrius on Oct 15, 2024 15:34:38 GMT
Not specifically, no. It's a specific instance of a more general question: why does anyone south of 1 mil net worth even entertain the idea of supporting the GOP? Because there is a concerted effort by conservative (bullshit.. conservatives are extinct) right-wing white men to promote a "I got mine.. you get yours.." narrative..
The fact that they were systemically aided in gaining that wealth.. the "I got mine.." part .. they reject out of hand .. Indeed. They glide right over the fact that not everyone is going to be rich and that neo-liberal economic ideology has been falsified. |
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Post by RinsePrius on Oct 15, 2024 15:36:07 GMT
Not specifically, no. It's a specific instance of a more general question: why does anyone south of 1 mil net worth even entertain the idea of supporting the GOP?
Except it's specifically being targeted at black men. That's the point of this thread. Black men are being lectured about choosing a white man to be president over a black woman. Perhaps you need to familiarize yourself with what Obama and Carville and other pundits are saying? I'm just suggesting perhaps Kamala choosing a white man to be her husband is a contributing factor.
Queshank
Okay I'm not sure what problem you have with my response? Do black men not live in the economy? Are they somehow immune to economic concerns because they are black? |
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