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Post by freonbale on Sept 17, 2024 22:31:20 GMT
Right, so you name ONE issue Donald has a (revolting) position on, and you follow up with nothing else from him. And considering the ONLY way he will implement that position is by decree, and not bipartisan legislation, whatever he does will be reversed by the next president. Whereas Harris DOES have actual specific plans, and you mentioned ONLY the ones where she does not. And worse, you see her reaching out to the other side to gain consensus before announcing a detailed plan as a bad thing, when it is literally the core requirement of a good leader. This is just hate. I think it's disingenuous for you to advocate that your reason for voting Donald is because of his policies, when EVERYTHING he does, you like. Not sure why you must hide your total loyalty to him, it's not like we all don't see it. Freon No specifics. No refutation of CBS. Trump has been president. He’s bizarre and often wrong, but everybody knows and he makes no secret of his stance on abortion and climate and guns and immigration. Harris is hiding her former positions because she knows most are unpopular nationally, if popular in California. So she resorts to cliches and platitudes. I’m so sorry. His stance on abortion has changed. Heck, it's changed within the last few months, even. And as to guns, what has he ACTUALLY DONE for you gun lovers? No legislation. All talk. He doesn't even have a CONCEPT, lol. Policy is NOT the reason people vote for Donald. It's loyalty to a bully. And I've even fine with that. You want a monarch, at least you picked an idiot as one. But Donald has made too many promises around policy, and kept nearly none of them. That's the facts of it. Harris comes from a presidency that made deals. That got things done. That worked with the other side. That's the AMERICAN way to do politics, and I believe she will be excellent at it. Donald was a boob. Is a boob. And will always be a boob. So if you want a boob for a president, feel free to vote for that weirdo. Freon |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Sept 17, 2024 23:14:57 GMT
So she resorts to cliches and platitudes. Sounds like you prefer Trump's lies and innuendo ..
I do prefer it, even as it’s usually vapid and useless as well. But he didn’t suck dicks to get into politics, so that seems preferable as well. |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Sept 17, 2024 23:15:36 GMT
No specifics. No refutation of CBS. Trump has been president. He’s bizarre and often wrong, but everybody knows and he makes no secret of his stance on abortion and climate and guns and immigration. Harris is hiding her former positions because she knows most are unpopular nationally, if popular in California. So she resorts to cliches and platitudes. I’m so sorry. His stance on abortion has changed. Heck, it's changed within the last few months, even. And as to guns, what has he ACTUALLY DONE for you gun lovers? No legislation. All talk. He doesn't even have a CONCEPT, lol. Policy is NOT the reason people vote for Donald. It's loyalty to a bully. And I've even fine with that. You want a monarch, at least you picked an idiot as one. But Donald has made too many promises around policy, and kept nearly none of them. That's the facts of it. Harris comes from a presidency that made deals. That got things done. That worked with the other side. That's the AMERICAN way to do politics, and I believe she will be excellent at it. Donald was a boob. Is a boob. And will always be a boob. So if you want a boob for a president, feel free to vote for that weirdo. Freon Will do. Thanks. |
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Post by freonbale on Sept 17, 2024 23:26:53 GMT
His stance on abortion has changed. Heck, it's changed within the last few months, even. And as to guns, what has he ACTUALLY DONE for you gun lovers? No legislation. All talk. He doesn't even have a CONCEPT, lol. Policy is NOT the reason people vote for Donald. It's loyalty to a bully. And I've even fine with that. You want a monarch, at least you picked an idiot as one. But Donald has made too many promises around policy, and kept nearly none of them. That's the facts of it. Harris comes from a presidency that made deals. That got things done. That worked with the other side. That's the AMERICAN way to do politics, and I believe she will be excellent at it. Donald was a boob. Is a boob. And will always be a boob. So if you want a boob for a president, feel free to vote for that weirdo. Freon Will do. Thanks. You are welcome. I'll be here, when you need me. Freon |
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Post by thor on Sept 17, 2024 23:35:57 GMT
Sounds like you prefer Trump's lies and innuendo ..
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Post by petep on Sept 18, 2024 0:05:33 GMT
Look at the list you sent me from Donald. It looks remarkably similar in tactical strategy as Harris'. As in, very little detail. Why no problem with his? It's that you cannot look at your own guy through the same negative lens you look at Harris, that your words are just hate to us. You don't like Harris. Ok, that's fine. But nothing you have said convinces me that Donald has any kind of plan at all, unless you look at Project2025, which apparently, he knows nothing about, even though his VP wrote the forward to it, lol. As to her strategies, I don't think we quite know what they are, but they will DEFINITELY involve bipartisan endorsement, voting, and support. Donald was totally unsuccessful at doing anything bipartisan, and I see no change in his strategies now. That ALONE makes me want Harris over Donald. At least with Harris, you will have a voice. With Donald, I will have none. Freon Oof. Look at that. Incredible. Anyway, CBS seems to agree with you. Here's what it says about Harris on immigration. www.cbsnews.com/news/kamala-harris-platform-policy-positions-2024/Trump has talked about a mass deportation program, ending birthright citizenship, border walls, etc. It's very clear where he stands. How about Harris' positions on Climate? What about Education? Since becoming the nominee, what has she proposed on Guns? Is that "policy"? What about Housing? To her credit, this is a policy she's offered. Too bad it's stupid and contradictory. And 3 million new homes and rentals by the end of her first term? Over a million homes are built every year in the US since 2013. 3 million by the end of her first term? 3 million were built between 2022 and 2023 alone. Maybe the "affordable" makes it make sense, but she's going to have to be more specific for this to be a "policy". And giving $25,000 to new homeowners will increase housing prices. So on its face it's a contradictory policy to her intentions of reducing housing costs. An intelligent person speaking to a fool. Sorry Freon. |
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Post by HolyMoly on Sept 18, 2024 0:27:25 GMT
People still thinking the president can control inflation or the price of gas. Too funny.
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Post by rabbitreborn on Sept 18, 2024 0:45:29 GMT
I do prefer it, even as it’s usually vapid and useless as well. But he didn’t suck dicks to get into politics, so that seems preferable as well. Who sucked dicks to get into politics? You did. And so began the Epic of Thor the Dogcatcher. |
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Post by petep on Sept 18, 2024 2:01:34 GMT
People still thinking the president can control inflation or the price of gas. Too funny. Yes. It’s absolutely pure coincidence when a president cuts back production or refining and the next day opec cuts production and raises prices. And coincidence when politicians shut down industry and force small and medium size business closures and print money like crazy that we get inflation. Read Kamala’s promises for what she will do. Are you an idiot for voting for her because she says she will fix all these things she was part of ruining, but will not fix. But you say she has no influence over. |
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Post by HolyMoly on Sept 18, 2024 4:32:48 GMT
People still thinking the president can control inflation or the price of gas. Too funny. Yes. It’s absolutely pure coincidence when a president cuts back production or refining and the next day opec cuts production and raises prices. And coincidence when politicians shut down industry and force small and medium size business closures and print money like crazy that we get inflation. Read Kamala’s promises for what she will do. Are you an idiot for voting for her because she says she will fix all these things she was part of ruining, but will not fix. But you say she has no influence over. U.S. oil production has been mostly up not down. And it now produces more oil than any other country. OPEC cuts or increases production according to how it will benefit them. The price of gas around here has decreased by about 20 cents in the last month. The main driver of inflation was the economic upheaval caused by the pandemic. Time usually takes care of inflation, as it has over the last few years. Inflation is no longer at 9% as it was a few years ago, though some people don't seem to realize that. Pols always promise things, they rarely keep them, so I wouldn't be too concerned. Nothing was ruined, we just went through a temporary rough patch. That's the way the economy works. I don't vote; one vote among millions is irrelevant. |
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Post by petep on Sept 18, 2024 9:01:29 GMT
Yes. It’s absolutely pure coincidence when a president cuts back production or refining and the next day opec cuts production and raises prices. And coincidence when politicians shut down industry and force small and medium size business closures and print money like crazy that we get inflation. Read Kamala’s promises for what she will do. Are you an idiot for voting for her because she says she will fix all these things she was part of ruining, but will not fix. But you say she has no influence over. U.S. oil production has been mostly up not down. And it now produces more oil than any other country. OPEC cuts or increases production according to how it will benefit them. The price of gas around here has decreased by about 20 cents in the last month. The main driver of inflation was the economic upheaval caused by the pandemic. Time usually takes care of inflation, as it has over the last few years. Inflation is no longer at 9% as it was a few years ago, though some people don't seem to realize that. Pols always promise things, they rarely keep them, so I wouldn't be too concerned. Nothing was ruined, we just went through a temporary rough patch. That's the way the economy works. I don't vote; one vote among millions is irrelevant. What is it with math and the left that is so confusing When you have inflation the way we have since Biden Harris assumed power, that outpaces wage increases by a significant margin, when inflation starts to come down, we are all still stuck with the higher prices and less discretionary income. When i hear the mainstream media talk - or people here - about how inflation may reach trump era levels and all will be back to the way it was was I shake my head. |
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Post by thecitizen on Sept 18, 2024 9:34:24 GMT
What is she even talking about. She just throws a bunch of words together and it never leads anywhere. Imagine interviewing a candidate for a job. What’s your plan to do “x” And you got and answer like this youtu.be/GRJ0NdJgwBw?feature=sharedSeems perfectly understandable to me. Can you link me a video of Donald laying out his plans that you find more interview worthy, so I can hear the difference. Freon Donald has “concepts” of plans |
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Post by thecitizen on Sept 18, 2024 9:36:00 GMT
Seems perfectly understandable to me. Can you link me a video of Donald laying out his plans that you find more interview worthy, so I can hear the difference. Freon He has been extraordinarily specific about his plan to get the country back on track. And more important than his well thought out and communicated focus is that he has a good track record of achieving results. I’ve posted this for you before and you just keep repeating the same left wing talking points www.donaldjtrump.com/platformNow, compare this to both the Biden - Harris agenda and their horrific track record. Their top three areas of focus are. - Covid - climate change - racial equality www.whitehouse.gov/priorities/Child care is child care is a well thought out plan |
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Post by thecitizen on Sept 18, 2024 9:37:09 GMT
He has been extraordinarily specific about his plan to get the country back on track. And more important than his well thought out and communicated focus is that he has a good track record of achieving results. I’ve posted this for you before and you just keep repeating the same left wing talking points www.donaldjtrump.com/platformNow, compare this to both the Biden - Harris agenda and their horrific track record. You linked me to Donald's web site. Here is Harris'. Nearly identical in specificity.But you complained about the 'word salad' in the video, and you did not link a video of Donald, like I asked. Is this more of your BS? Freon I would say more of his stupidity |
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Post by thecitizen on Sept 18, 2024 9:38:30 GMT
You linked me to Donald's web site. Here is Harris'. Nearly identical in specificity.But you complained about the 'word salad' in the video, and you did not link a video of Donald, like I asked. Is this more of your BS? Freon Ok. So she is going to reduce rent for people, and reduce housing prices for people and lower the costs of groceries and food for everyone and lower the price of energy. Great. Sign me up. But - In the business world we say a goal without a plan is a wish. So she has lots of wishes. Two questions. Who is paying for all the giveaways? She’s been at the helm with Biden - that’s why they called it the Biden Harris priorities - we have gotten worse in each of the areas she mentions since taking over. why do you believe she will magically do well if elected? Why hasn’t she done this over the past three plus years? She has a plan. What is Trump’s plan to make the economy better |
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Post by thecitizen on Sept 18, 2024 9:44:59 GMT
Why are you changing the subject? You said she spoke a word salad. That was your OP, and now you are diving into her policies (clearly laid out, btw), and having a totally different conversation. Clearly laid out? Saying one will reduce the cost of things like housing / rent while also reducing the "housing shortage" is not a policy. And that's a complicated mix of things to do. Particularly when she's talking about giving first time homebuyers $25,000 to help with a down payment which will (Spoiler Alert) increase housing prices. And if she tries to artificially bring down rent, what you'll see is shittier homes as landlords reduce maintenance budgets for those homes, and fewer entrepreneurs getting into the landlord game, bringing down competition. These are often contradictory goals that individually sound nice, but without laying out the actual policies she will enact (I AM GOING TO END THE HOUSING SHORTAGE is not a policy), it's all bullshit. So what is Trump planning to do to make the economy better |
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Post by thecitizen on Sept 18, 2024 9:53:41 GMT
Look at the list you sent me from Donald. It looks remarkably similar in tactical strategy as Harris'. As in, very little detail. Why no problem with his? It's that you cannot look at your own guy through the same negative lens you look at Harris, that your words are just hate to us. You don't like Harris. Ok, that's fine. But nothing you have said convinces me that Donald has any kind of plan at all, unless you look at Project2025, which apparently, he knows nothing about, even though his VP wrote the forward to it, lol. As to her strategies, I don't think we quite know what they are, but they will DEFINITELY involve bipartisan endorsement, voting, and support. Donald was totally unsuccessful at doing anything bipartisan, and I see no change in his strategies now. That ALONE makes me want Harris over Donald. At least with Harris, you will have a voice. With Donald, I will have none. Freon Oof. Look at that. Incredible. Anyway, CBS seems to agree with you. Here's what it says about Harris on immigration. www.cbsnews.com/news/kamala-harris-platform-policy-positions-2024/Trump has talked about a mass deportation program, ending birthright citizenship, border walls, etc. It's very clear where he stands. How about Harris' positions on Climate? What about Education? Since becoming the nominee, what has she proposed on Guns? Is that "policy"? What about Housing? To her credit, this is a policy she's offered. Too bad it's stupid and contradictory. And 3 million new homes and rentals by the end of her first term? Over a million homes are built every year in the US since 2013. 3 million by the end of her first term? 3 million were built between 2022 and 2023 alone. Maybe the "affordable" makes it make sense, but she's going to have to be more specific for this to be a "policy". And giving $25,000 to new homeowners will increase housing prices. So on its face it's a contradictory policy to her intentions of reducing housing costs. The only policy you compared to Trump is immigration, you dishonest bitch. What is the real reason you are voting for Trump. Be honest and free yourself. Now let’s discuss this stupid “mass” deportation. Do you actually think that is going to work? How much Is that going to cost. How much man power will that take. What is his plan to mass deport or is it just a “concept” of a plan. You are just as stupid as pee if you think that is going to happen |
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Post by thecitizen on Sept 18, 2024 9:59:44 GMT
Right, so you name ONE issue Donald has a (revolting) position on, and you follow up with nothing else from him. And considering the ONLY way he will implement that position is by decree, and not bipartisan legislation, whatever he does will be reversed by the next president. Whereas Harris DOES have actual specific plans, and you mentioned ONLY the ones where she does not. And worse, you see her reaching out to the other side to gain consensus before announcing a detailed plan as a bad thing, when it is literally the core requirement of a good leader. This is just hate. I think it's disingenuous for you to advocate that your reason for voting Donald is because of his policies, when EVERYTHING he does, you like. Not sure why you must hide your total loyalty to him, it's not like we all don't see it. Freon No specifics. No refutation of CBS. Trump has been president. He’s bizarre and often wrong, but everybody knows and he makes no secret of his stance on abortion and climate and guns and immigration. Harris is hiding her former positions because she knows most are unpopular nationally, if popular in California. So she resorts to cliches and platitudes. I’m so sorry. Oh no, he is for abortions and then he is against it. But just being for or against something and doing nothing about it means nothing. Voting for someone because they think like you but have no plans is stupid at best. Harris is not hiding anything. She may have changed her positions on a few things just like Trump. So again, you are full of shit |
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Post by thecitizen on Sept 18, 2024 10:03:23 GMT
Sounds like you prefer Trump's lies and innuendo ..
I do prefer it, even as it’s usually vapid and useless as well. But he didn’t suck dicks to get into politics, so that seems preferable as well. Oh man, how low can you go. With Trump and you, it is all about him telling you what you want to hear. We know damn well it is not about his moral character. |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Sept 18, 2024 10:08:05 GMT
Oof. Look at that. Incredible. Anyway, CBS seems to agree with you. Here's what it says about Harris on immigration. www.cbsnews.com/news/kamala-harris-platform-policy-positions-2024/Trump has talked about a mass deportation program, ending birthright citizenship, border walls, etc. It's very clear where he stands. How about Harris' positions on Climate? What about Education? Since becoming the nominee, what has she proposed on Guns? Is that "policy"? What about Housing? To her credit, this is a policy she's offered. Too bad it's stupid and contradictory. And 3 million new homes and rentals by the end of her first term? Over a million homes are built every year in the US since 2013. 3 million by the end of her first term? 3 million were built between 2022 and 2023 alone. Maybe the "affordable" makes it make sense, but she's going to have to be more specific for this to be a "policy". And giving $25,000 to new homeowners will increase housing prices. So on its face it's a contradictory policy to her intentions of reducing housing costs. The only policy you compared to Trump is immigration, you dishonest bitch. Calm down, citizen. |
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