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Post by RinsePrius on Sept 7, 2024 19:41:55 GMT
Cool, don't let me get in the way of make-believe time. Prince Wednesday says hi. Nothing make-believe about it. Big time make believe, willful blindness style. |
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Post by thor on Sept 7, 2024 20:10:24 GMT
Nothing make-believe about it. Big time make believe, willful blindness style. Clearly, you don't understand. We must tolerate school massacres because Freedom.  |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Sept 7, 2024 20:12:31 GMT
School shootings weren't a fact of life any time during my public school education that began in 1960. I think the first one that anyone knew about was some mind addled former Marine who climbed a tower at the University of Texas back in 67 I think. He killed several people. As trump would say, with accordian hand movemnts, it was a shooting "like nobody's ever seen." The normalization of school shootings goes well with the normalization of someone like trump. Crazy is normal. Perfect. And 1967 was when Americans first were legally allowed to own firearms. The causation is clear. |
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Post by Monster Man on Sept 7, 2024 20:33:35 GMT
Big time make believe, willful blindness style. Clearly, you don't understand. We must tolerate school massacres because Freedom. No, because you are a coward. You want to let the bad guys kill as many as they can because you are too scared to fight back and project that onto others. |
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Post by RinsePrius on Sept 7, 2024 20:43:26 GMT
We don't need to update the regs surrounding guns and access to them. We simply need to re-import the people and the culture that we had in the 60s and all will be well.
When the law doesn't fit the context, don't change the law, change the context. Easy peasy.
Follow me for more policy tips.
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Post by thor on Sept 7, 2024 20:58:14 GMT
Clearly, you don't understand. We must tolerate school massacres because Freedom. No, because you are a coward. You want to let the bad guys kill as many as they can because you are too scared to fight back and project that onto others. You have the chance to kill lots of bad guys, Jar-Jar. Join the IDF! What are you waiting for? |
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Post by Odysseus on Sept 7, 2024 21:41:58 GMT
We don't need to update the regs surrounding guns and access to them. We simply need to re-import the people and the culture that we had in the 60s and all will be well. When the law doesn't fit the context, don't change the law, change the context. Easy peasy. Follow me for more policy tips.
So how does that relate to the putative 1960's relaxation of firearm laws?
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Post by Monster Man on Sept 7, 2024 22:58:29 GMT
No, because you are a coward. You want to let the bad guys kill as many as they can because you are too scared to fight back and project that onto others. You have the chance to kill lots of bad guys, Jar-Jar. Join the IDF! What are you waiting for? Too many cowards like you here. |
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Post by RinsePrius on Sept 7, 2024 23:04:30 GMT
We don't need to update the regs surrounding guns and access to them. We simply need to re-import the people and the culture that we had in the 60s and all will be well. When the law doesn't fit the context, don't change the law, change the context. Easy peasy. Follow me for more policy tips.
So how does that relate to the putative 1960's relaxation of firearm laws?
I'm too many layers deep in sarcasm to figure out what to say here. |
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Post by Odysseus on Sept 8, 2024 0:18:23 GMT
So how does that relate to the putative 1960's relaxation of firearm laws?
I'm too many layers deep in sarcasm to figure out what to say here.
Well, when you are ready to not be deep in sarcasm, let me know.
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Post by Mercy for All on Sept 8, 2024 1:19:48 GMT
Full quote:
"I don’t like to admit this. I don’t like that this is a fact of life. But if you are a psycho and you want to make headlines, you realize that our schools are soft targets and we have got to bolster security at our schools."
To misrepresent the quote as a kind of verbal "shrugging of shoulders" is the intellectually moribund idiocy symptomatic of partisan willful blindness that makes posting here a complete waste of time.
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Post by thecitizen on Sept 8, 2024 1:22:29 GMT
Full quote: "I don’t like to admit this. I don’t like that this is a fact of life. But if you are a psycho and you want to make headlines, you realize that our schools are soft targets and we have got to bolster security at our schools." To misrepresent the quote as a kind of verbal "shrugging of shoulders" is the intellectually moribund idiocy symptomatic of partisan willful blindness that makes posting here a complete waste of time. Are you really a resident of Canada or are you just bullshiting |
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Post by queshank on Sept 8, 2024 1:26:26 GMT
It's been 25 years since the OG Columbine shooting occurred during Bizarro Trump's administration and smack in the middle of a federal assault weapons ban.
When they're occurring with increasing frequency ever since, with every attempt at stopping them seeming to exacerbate the problem, at what point do those critical consider them a fact of life?
At what point do we ask "wtf is going on in these schools?"
Queshank
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Post by queshank on Sept 8, 2024 1:27:18 GMT
Full quote: "I don’t like to admit this. I don’t like that this is a fact of life. But if you are a psycho and you want to make headlines, you realize that our schools are soft targets and we have got to bolster security at our schools." To misrepresent the quote as a kind of verbal "shrugging of shoulders" is the intellectually moribund idiocy symptomatic of partisan willful blindness that makes posting here a complete waste of time.
It's part of a campaign push. The Democrats and our media are the ones pushing this type of misrepresentation.
Every ... time.
Queshank
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Post by queshank on Sept 8, 2024 1:38:55 GMT
Yes they are, so long as done legally. It is the crooked ones we have to worry about. No, we don't have to worry about that because it is a tiny risk. We have far more to fear from sore losers calling fair elections crooked, and undermining the entire republican/constitutional project. The call is coming from inside your house, Arch.
School shootings are also a tiny risk, and a tiny, tiny, tiny, TINY fraction of the death by guns that occur in a given year.
Ergo, we don't need to worry about them, no?
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Post by RinsePrius on Sept 8, 2024 3:15:30 GMT
No, we don't have to worry about that because it is a tiny risk. We have far more to fear from sore losers calling fair elections crooked, and undermining the entire republican/constitutional project. The call is coming from inside your house, Arch.
School shootings are also a tiny risk, and a tiny, tiny, tiny, TINY fraction of the death by guns that occur in a given year.
Ergo, we don't need to worry about them, no?
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They are occurring with more frequency so I wouldn't say they are a tiny risk. To compare, note the complete absence of corrupted elections in the US. |
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Post by queshank on Sept 8, 2024 3:24:49 GMT
School shootings are also a tiny risk, and a tiny, tiny, tiny, TINY fraction of the death by guns that occur in a given year.
Ergo, we don't need to worry about them, no?
Queshank
They are occurring with more frequency so I wouldn't say they are a tiny risk. To compare, note the complete absence of corrupted elections in the US.
Every single election we have is "corrupted" if we have an eye towards democracy. We have two political parties that have historically done everything in their power to stamp out democracy. And every single election going back decades has had accusations of malfeasance in the process.
From 2000 until 2022 there were 206 deaths by gunfire in elementary, secondary and postsecondary schools in the US.
How many deaths by gunfire were there overall from 2000 until 2022?
One year alone gives us nearly 50,000 deaths by guns.
I'd say tiny is too large a descriptor.
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Post by queshank on Sept 8, 2024 3:27:36 GMT
There are over 115,000 schools in the United States.
We have shootings at how many every year?
Is tiny a small enough descriptor?
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Post by CadesCove on Sept 8, 2024 4:40:07 GMT
There are over 115,000 schools in the United States.
We have shootings at how many every year?
Is tiny a small enough descriptor?
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Post by DaveJavu on Sept 8, 2024 12:19:15 GMT
Sure works for other developed countries though.... consider me skeptical. We've had easy access to guns for a long time in this country. When I was in school, you could've walked out to the parking lot and grabbed a gun out of any number of pickups (even though it was supposed to be a gun free zone).
Something's changed. Restrictions and/or more security are ancillary solutions. Root problem still needs to be addressed.
You can smoke a lot for a long time without getting cancer. How about you people passed the breaking point of gun proliferation? |
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