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Post by DaveJavu on Sept 4, 2024 10:25:39 GMT
You are the one running from your original assertion. Pace yourself. Don't forget that you are recovering from a three month coma... You don't want to incur another episode, do you? |
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Post by atreyu on Sept 4, 2024 11:54:46 GMT
You are the one running from your original assertion. I accept your defeat. You in fact are unable to shows any differences between Project 2025 and Agenda 47.
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Post by rabbitreborn on Sept 4, 2024 14:00:23 GMT
Oh cool. So it doesn’t really matter what I say. If somebody is voting for Trump than they are authoritarian. And if Biden, what? Freedom loving patriots? Man. What a nuanced worldview. Kudos, brother.
If they're not voting for Trump then they aren't voting for someone who self proclaims he wants to be a dictator and has policies that back up authoritarian positions.
It's really that simple.
Now if you'd rather vote for someone like that over the alternative then get to explaining how the alternative is worse. Justify your position. All the MAGA talks about is authoritarians are the worst thing ever while voting for `em. Cuba, Venezuala, blah blah blah
I see government as authoritarian by its very nature. The questions are how much do you want personally, what forms of it are acceptable, what forms are not acceptable, and what are the alternatives? I've expressed my disapproval of Trump's trade policies, his COVID response, his bullshit statement on "take the guns first, and go through due process later", which I found completely despicable. Just a few examples. All executive orders are, in a sense, authoritarian. Which leads me to the questions around alternatives. I think it's without question that Kamala is significantly worse on gun rights (from my perspective). I don't think that can be argued against. She's made it clear she wishes to ban "assault weapons". As has Tim Walz. So is that a better option against "authoritarianism" from my perspective? The Democrats were, in sum, significantly worse on COVID policy. More in favor of big business. More opposed to personal liberty. Walz set up a special little snitch line in Minnesota for anybody trying to live their life. I find it extraordinarily authoritarian to admit to not having the power to mandate a vaccine, and yet attempt to do so afterwards through OSHA. Is that an acceptable form of authoritarianism for you? Or is that not authoritarian when a single person attempts to mandate a medical procedure against people's will after fully admitting he does not have the constitutional power to do so? |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Sept 4, 2024 14:01:10 GMT
Whoa whoa whoa. No need to get so emotional, snowflake. It’s going to be ok. I'm an emotional creature, rabbit. You may be pure logic, but I cannot divorce myself from feelings as completely as you have. So bear with me, while I try to understand your total logic/zero emotion perspective. Freon I didn't say I was "pure" logic. You have nothing but straw men and midwit games. |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Sept 4, 2024 14:01:30 GMT
No. If you need me to dumb it down further, I can try. But you need to ask instead of making terribly foolish assumptions. Looks who's talking! Making foolish dishonest assumptions to further your agenda is all you ever do, asshole! Did you think it went unnoticed? Calm down. |
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Post by freonbale on Sept 4, 2024 14:08:37 GMT
I'm an emotional creature, rabbit. You may be pure logic, but I cannot divorce myself from feelings as completely as you have. So bear with me, while I try to understand your total logic/zero emotion perspective. Freon I didn't say I was "pure" logic. You have nothing but straw men and midwit games. Oh, so now you are saying you DO base your arguments and decisions on emotions as well, huh? I think the strawman here was being used by you, when you tried to say that I am too emotional in my decision making and argumentation, compared to magical you. Look, if you want to discuss differences of opinion on actual topics, then lets do so. But your pitiful attacks on me personally are inaccurate, and will never pierce my calm, civil demeanor. Freon |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Sept 4, 2024 14:15:37 GMT
I didn't say I was "pure" logic. You have nothing but straw men and midwit games. Oh, so now you are saying you DO base your arguments and decisions on emotions as well, huh? Once again, you seem incapable of understanding the word "only". Stupid or dishonest. I can't be sure which. Could be both, I suppose. |
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Post by freonbale on Sept 4, 2024 14:45:28 GMT
Oh, so now you are saying you DO base your arguments and decisions on emotions as well, huh? Once again, you seem incapable of understanding the word "only". Stupid or dishonest. I can't be sure which. Could be both, I suppose. You're back to that, huh? I'll say this one more time. If you wish to discuss actual differences in opinion on relevant topics, then I'm glad to converse. Anything else, I will stop responding to you. Freon |
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Post by demos on Sept 4, 2024 14:46:21 GMT
Ahh, ok, misunderstood your question. What was done to those Georgia election workers, exposing them to Donald's hate-driven base, destroying their lives. That's free speech gone too far. Freon Is anyone really advocating threats and harassment as having no repercussions (i.e., boundaryless)? Since this thread is specifically about Project 2024, is that advocated in that 900 page tome?
I haven't read it (if I'm going to read 900 pages there are better things to read).
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Post by rabbitreborn on Sept 4, 2024 14:58:53 GMT
Once again, you seem incapable of understanding the word "only". Stupid or dishonest. I can't be sure which. Could be both, I suppose. You're back to that, huh? I'll say this one more time. If you wish to discuss actual differences in opinion on relevant topics, then I'm glad to converse. Anything else, I will stop responding to you. Freon Pretending you want to actually have a difference-of-opinion discussion in a thread like this, where it’s made obvious that you use the secret progressive decoder ring which designates everything the opposition says as coded white supremacy and Christian Nationalism, is a hoot. It’s very entertaining, whether you respond to me or not. Feel free to put me on block like Ulyssese. |
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Post by freonbale on Sept 4, 2024 14:59:57 GMT
Ahh, ok, misunderstood your question. What was done to those Georgia election workers, exposing them to Donald's hate-driven base, destroying their lives. That's free speech gone too far. Freon Is anyone really advocating threats and harassment as having no repercussions (i.e., boundaryless)? Since this thread is specifically about Project 2024, is that advocated in that 900 page tome?
I haven't read it (if I'm going to read 900 pages there are better things to read).
Well Donald did it. The authors of Project 2025, and his base, did not condemn him for doing it (or anything he's ever done). To me, that's is endorsement of his actions. Freon |
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Post by Monster Man on Sept 4, 2024 16:19:21 GMT
You are the one running from your original assertion. Pace yourself. Don't forget that you are recovering from a three month coma... You don't want to incur another episode, do you? Thanks for your concern Lil' Dave! |
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Post by Monster Man on Sept 4, 2024 16:20:49 GMT
You are the one running from your original assertion. I accept your defeat. You in fact are unable to shows any differences between Project 2025 and Agenda 47.
You are the one running from your original assertion. |
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Post by atreyu on Sept 4, 2024 16:48:04 GMT
If they're not voting for Trump then they aren't voting for someone who self proclaims he wants to be a dictator and has policies that back up authoritarian positions.
It's really that simple.
Now if you'd rather vote for someone like that over the alternative then get to explaining how the alternative is worse. Justify your position. All the MAGA talks about is authoritarians are the worst thing ever while voting for `em. Cuba, Venezuala, blah blah blah
I see government as authoritarian by its very nature. The questions are how much do you want personally, what forms of it are acceptable, what forms are not acceptable, and what are the alternatives? I've expressed my disapproval of Trump's trade policies, his COVID response, his bullshit statement on "take the guns first, and go through due process later", which I found completely despicable. Just a few examples. All executive orders are, in a sense, authoritarian. Which leads me to the questions around alternatives. I think it's without question that Kamala is significantly worse on gun rights (from my perspective). I don't think that can be argued against. She's made it clear she wishes to ban "assault weapons". As has Tim Walz. So is that a better option against "authoritarianism" from my perspective? The Democrats were, in sum, significantly worse on COVID policy. More in favor of big business. More opposed to personal liberty. Walz set up a special little snitch line in Minnesota for anybody trying to live their life. I find it extraordinarily authoritarian to admit to not having the power to mandate a vaccine, and yet attempt to do so afterwards through OSHA. Is that an acceptable form of authoritarianism for you? Or is that not authoritarian when a single person attempts to mandate a medical procedure against people's will after fully admitting he does not have the constitutional power to do so?
Cool that's completely fair, if you think that policies on some issues are more important than the government turning into a dictatorship. That's fine.
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Post by atreyu on Sept 4, 2024 16:49:34 GMT
I accept your defeat. You in fact are unable to shows any differences between Project 2025 and Agenda 47.
You are the one running from your original assertion. Whatever you have to tell yourself. Everyone can see you came up empty.
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Post by rabbitreborn on Sept 4, 2024 17:06:15 GMT
I see government as authoritarian by its very nature. The questions are how much do you want personally, what forms of it are acceptable, what forms are not acceptable, and what are the alternatives? I've expressed my disapproval of Trump's trade policies, his COVID response, his bullshit statement on "take the guns first, and go through due process later", which I found completely despicable. Just a few examples. All executive orders are, in a sense, authoritarian. Which leads me to the questions around alternatives. I think it's without question that Kamala is significantly worse on gun rights (from my perspective). I don't think that can be argued against. She's made it clear she wishes to ban "assault weapons". As has Tim Walz. So is that a better option against "authoritarianism" from my perspective? The Democrats were, in sum, significantly worse on COVID policy. More in favor of big business. More opposed to personal liberty. Walz set up a special little snitch line in Minnesota for anybody trying to live their life. I find it extraordinarily authoritarian to admit to not having the power to mandate a vaccine, and yet attempt to do so afterwards through OSHA. Is that an acceptable form of authoritarianism for you? Or is that not authoritarian when a single person attempts to mandate a medical procedure against people's will after fully admitting he does not have the constitutional power to do so?
Cool that's completely fair, if you think that policies on some issues are more important than the government turning into a dictatorship. That's fine.
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Post by Paleocon on Sept 4, 2024 18:09:24 GMT
So may lies..^ So little time..
"partial-birth" is a political term used by authoritarian asshats.. There is no procedure called a partial birth abortion except in the imagination of you misogynistic douchebags and Faux News hosts.. The sometime emergency medically necessary procedure .. D&X .. accounts for 0.2% of all abortions. It has never been an elective procedure.. Never. Though you scum claim is it.
On to your next lie.. MSM Climate Change v Global Warming
Of course.. I should have remembered that all you science illiterates get your "climate science" (wink, wink) from the likes of Hannity and Jeanine Pirro .. It shows.
There was no 'break' from warming.. but idiots do still claim there was ..
Then in 2015, a team led by researchers at the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration published a jaw-dropping conclusion in the journal Science. The rise in global temperatures had not plateaued; rather, incomplete data had obscured ongoing global warming. When more Arctic temperature records were included and biases in ocean temperature data were corrected, the NOAA dataset showed the heat-up continuing. With the newly corrected data, the apparent pause in global warming vanished. A 2017 study led by Hausfather confirmed and extended these findings, as did other reports.
If stupidity could sequester CO2.. you'd solve the warming problem by yourself..
Your next lie .. the Death Tax ..
It's simply a fact.. probably why you don't know it . .. that you can't tax Death but I'm sure if there was a way to do so you right-wing fucks would give your rich overlords a huge deduction . Oh wait.. you did.
There you have it.. I kicked your ignorant ass so hard you've reached escape velocity .. Say 'Hi" to the moon.
BTW.. I'm not Black ..
Damn, that's twice in recent memory Paleocon has had his ass handed to him just about abortion.
What's it feel like Paleo?? Want some more? LOL
Is this your version of a rhetorical handjob for your buddy Fiddler? I've kicked Fiddler's ass all over this forum and plan to continue. From the article that I posted:
The U.S. Supreme Court has held that the terms "partial-birth abortion" and "intact dilation and extraction" are basically synonymous.
And your butt buddy Fids is dishonestly leading you astray on this elective procedure:
Pro-abortionists want women to believe that partial-birth abortions in the second and third trimesters happen only when something has gone wrong with the baby or when the mother’s life is at risk. But we know that this is not the case.
According to Wills:
Dr. Haskell estimates that 80% of his procedures are ‘purely elective.’ One New Jersey doctor explained: ‘We have an occasional amnio abnormality, but it’s a minuscule amount. Most are Medicaid patients…and most are for elective, not medical, reasons: people who didn’t realize, or didn’t care, how far along they were. Most were teenagers.’
Further, by its very nature, a partial-birth abortion—because it takes two to three days to complete—cannot be done in an emergency situation. So if a mother’s life is in immediate danger, the doctor will not perform this type of abortion.
So I'm sorry your ass is in such pain, but a combination of my boot and Fiddler doing his imitation of your buttplug will cause that every time.
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Post by Paleocon on Sept 4, 2024 18:43:22 GMT
"Death tax" rightly identified WHY the tax was levied and makes clear how disgusting and unfair such a regressive tax is. Death triggers the tax, despite the fact that the dead person has already been taxed to death on the property and assets already. "Death tax" accurately reveals the vile greed and immorality of the federal government and its minions.
Get your head out of your fat greasy scalwag ass once in a while and you might learn something.
And partial birth abortion does happen, so stop lying to cover your abortion loving ass.
And finally, dumbass, it wasn't in the scientific journals where the shift from "global warming" to "climate change" occurred, it was the MSM that was busy gaslighting the public until GW took a 17 year break from increasing. They didn't dare let folks notice that their lies about global warming weren't aligning with the models.
Your ass is sent into orbit so often that it has a better track record than the Boeing Starliner.
Anything else, boy?
So may lies..^ So little time..
"partial-birth" is a political term used by authoritarian asshats.. There is no procedure called a partial birth abortion except in the imagination of you misogynistic douchebags and Faux News hosts.. The sometime emergency medically necessary procedure .. D&X .. accounts for 0.2% of all abortions. It has never been an elective procedure.. Never. Though you scum claim is it.
On to your next lie.. MSM Climate Change v Global Warming
Of course.. I should have remembered that all you science illiterates get your "climate science" (wink, wink) from the likes of Hannity and Jeanine Pirro .. It shows.
There was no 'break' from warming.. but idiots do still claim there was ..
Then in 2015, a team led by researchers at the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration published a jaw-dropping conclusion in the journal Science. The rise in global temperatures had not plateaued; rather, incomplete data had obscured ongoing global warming. When more Arctic temperature records were included and biases in ocean temperature data were corrected, the NOAA dataset showed the heat-up continuing. With the newly corrected data, the apparent pause in global warming vanished. A 2017 study led by Hausfather confirmed and extended these findings, as did other reports.
If stupidity could sequester CO2.. you'd solve the warming problem by yourself..
Your next lie .. the Death Tax ..
It's simply a fact.. probably why you don't know it . .. that you can't tax Death but I'm sure if there was a way to do so you right-wing fucks would give your rich overlords a huge deduction . Oh wait.. you did.
There you have it.. I kicked your ignorant ass so hard you've reached escape velocity .. Say 'Hi" to the moon.
BTW.. I'm not Black ..
The only lies are coming from your polluted piehole, boy.
I've already kicked your ass in my answer to your butt buddy atreyu on abortion.
Here's your next punishment:
Writing in the Journal of Earth Science the Chinese scientists say there was a rapid rise in global mean surface air temperature after the late 1970s but that this stalled and there was a relative stagnation and even slight cooling that lasted for about 15 years (1998–2012). They add that even though the slowdown was acknowledged by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Fifth Assessment Report (IPCC AR5) and termed as a hiatus (IPCC, 2013) there was a debate in the scientific community about whether there was a hiatus in global warming or not.
The researchers believe that the debate about the global warming hiatus poses a substantial challenge to our understanding of the global climate response to anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions and natural variability. They say that the disagreements about the recent global warming hiatus mainly arise from different sources, among which differences across observational SAT datasets may be a key contributor to the contradictory conclusions. So they use an alternative set of data.
And death is being taxed when the assets of the deceased are sought by a greedy powerful government that's already taxed the shit out of the guy before he died!
You don't have the balls to engage in an honest conversation on these topics, which is why your lies are so easy to destroy.
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Post by Fiddler on Sept 4, 2024 19:14:13 GMT
LOL.. Paleo just set a round trip to the moon record .. one that I and my foot up his ass take credit for ..
Looks like oxygen deprivation has lead him to buy into the discredited extremists of Human Life International D&X lies .. Their distortions of Dr. Haskell's work is legendary .
HLI is a your standard collection of pseudoscience, right-wing propaganda and religious bullshit.. so we know why Paleo loves them ..
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Post by Fiddler on Sept 4, 2024 19:32:07 GMT
So may lies..^ So little time..
"partial-birth" is a political term used by authoritarian asshats.. There is no procedure called a partial birth abortion except in the imagination of you misogynistic douchebags and Faux News hosts.. The sometime emergency medically necessary procedure .. D&X .. accounts for 0.2% of all abortions. It has never been an elective procedure.. Never. Though you scum claim is it.
On to your next lie.. MSM Climate Change v Global Warming
Of course.. I should have remembered that all you science illiterates get your "climate science" (wink, wink) from the likes of Hannity and Jeanine Pirro .. It shows.
There was no 'break' from warming.. but idiots do still claim there was ..
Then in 2015, a team led by researchers at the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration published a jaw-dropping conclusion in the journal Science. The rise in global temperatures had not plateaued; rather, incomplete data had obscured ongoing global warming. When more Arctic temperature records were included and biases in ocean temperature data were corrected, the NOAA dataset showed the heat-up continuing. With the newly corrected data, the apparent pause in global warming vanished. A 2017 study led by Hausfather confirmed and extended these findings, as did other reports.
If stupidity could sequester CO2.. you'd solve the warming problem by yourself..
Your next lie .. the Death Tax ..
It's simply a fact.. probably why you don't know it . .. that you can't tax Death but I'm sure if there was a way to do so you right-wing fucks would give your rich overlords a huge deduction . Oh wait.. you did.
There you have it.. I kicked your ignorant ass so hard you've reached escape velocity .. Say 'Hi" to the moon.
BTW.. I'm not Black ..
You don't have the balls to engage in an honest conversation on these topics, which is why your lies are so easy to destroy.
You've destroyed absolutely nothing .. you don't even have any credibility to destroy. . . And you sure as hell don't know shit about honesty..
That you'd try to use Springer as a credible source of climat .. well for ANYTHING is hilarious.. Just shows how incredibly stupid you are..
I posted the facts which is exactly the reason you ignored it.. You look for crackpots to confirm your stupidity.. And you're really good at it ..
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