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Post by atreyu on Sept 3, 2024 21:09:45 GMT
No, you had nothing.
There's been plenty of posts on what's similar, you've got nothing that is dissimilar.
That's sad, and speaks volumes to what you're actually capable of as a "functioning" adult.
If only your argument was one about similarities... but it wasn't. You got nothing.
Run off coward. As per your usual MO
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Post by freonbale on Sept 3, 2024 21:10:05 GMT
Oh, and what makes you say that? Freon I’m asking. The question mark. Remember? Well, duh, obvious. I'm intentionally responding to your question with a counter-question. And once again, you have not answered it. Two for two proves my point quite soundly. Freon |
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Post by demos on Sept 3, 2024 21:11:05 GMT
Separation of Church and State is what our founders wanted. And I agree. Pay for your own religious schools, just like the rest of us. Freon Point of clarification. Some of them (like Jefferson) wanted it. Others were ok with established churches, particularly at the state level.
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Post by rabbitreborn on Sept 3, 2024 21:11:24 GMT
I’m asking. The question mark. Remember? Well, duh, obvious. I'm intentionally responding to your question with a counter-question. And once again, you have not answered it. Two for two proves my point quite soundly. Freon I’ll wait for an answer to my question. Within this new example within your plethora of Midwit games lies the answer to all of our questions. |
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Post by freonbale on Sept 3, 2024 21:11:58 GMT
Oh, and what makes you say that? Freon
His conservative dishonesty...
No, no, you're reading that convo wrong. He's trying to prove a point about interpreting other people's comments, and I'm not letting him. Freon |
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Post by Fiddler on Sept 3, 2024 21:12:48 GMT
I punted your ignorant ass into orbit last time and still you don't have the decency to thank me..
The notion of a "Death Tax" is idiotic .. you can't tax 'death'.. so we see why you're so attracted to the doublespeak ..
You're stuck on stupid with that partial birth bullshit.. it doesn't happen..
Despite you desperately clinging to your ignorance of science in general .. Climate Change is an older term than Global Warming..
Non-Idiots.. (people who are not you) understand that the two terms describe two different things.. "Climate Change" and "Global Warming" refer to separate aspects of climate science. It's the warming.. globally.. that's forcing climate change..
GW and CC may have been used interchangeably by the talking heads that kept you confused but were never used in that manner by anyone even remotely familiar with climate science.
The argument "they changed the name" suggests that the term 'global warming' was previously the norm, and the widespread use of the term 'climate change' is now.
However, this is simply untrue. For example, a seminal climate science work is Gilbert Plass' 1956 study 'The Carbon Dioxide Theory of Climatic Change' (which coincidentally estimated the climate sensitivity to a doubling of atmospheric carbon dioxide at 3.6°C, not far off from today's widely accepted most likely value of 3°C).
Barrett and Gast published a letter in Science in 1971 entitled simply 'Climate Change'.
The journal 'Climatic Change' was created in 1977 (and is still published today).
The IPCC was formed in 1988, and of course the 'CC' is 'climate change', not 'global warming'. There are many, many other examples of the use of the term 'climate change' many decades ago. There is nothing new whatsoever about the usage of the term.
In fact, according to Google Books, the usage of both terms in books published in the United States has increased at similar rates over the past 40 years:
And a Google Scholar search reveals that the term 'climate change' was in use before the term 'global warming', and has always been the more commonly-used term in scientific literature: So to sum up, although the terms are used interchangeably because they are causally related, 'global warming' and 'climate change' refer to different physical phenomena. The term 'climate change' has been used frequently in the scientific literature for many decades, and the usage of both terms has increased over the past 40 years. Moreover, since the planet continues to warm, there is no reason to change the terminology.
There ya'go .. And if you had any ass left.. I'd kick it too ...
"Death tax" rightly identified WHY the tax was levied and makes clear how disgusting and unfair such a regressive tax is. Death triggers the tax, despite the fact that the dead person has already been taxed to death on the property and assets already. "Death tax" accurately reveals the vile greed and immorality of the federal government and its minions.
Get your head out of your fat greasy scalwag ass once in a while and you might learn something.
And partial birth abortion does happen, so stop lying to cover your abortion loving ass.
And finally, dumbass, it wasn't in the scientific journals where the shift from "global warming" to "climate change" occurred, it was the MSM that was busy gaslighting the public until GW took a 17 year break from increasing. They didn't dare let folks notice that their lies about global warming weren't aligning with the models.
Your ass is sent into orbit so often that it has a better track record than the Boeing Starliner.
Anything else, boy?
So may lies..^ So little time..
"partial-birth" is a political term used by authoritarian asshats.. There is no procedure called a partial birth abortion except in the imagination of you misogynistic douchebags and Faux News hosts.. The sometime emergency medically necessary procedure .. D&X .. accounts for 0.2% of all abortions. It has never been an elective procedure.. Never. Though you scum claim is it.
On to your next lie.. MSM Climate Change v Global Warming
Of course.. I should have remembered that all you science illiterates get your "climate science" (wink, wink) from the likes of Hannity and Jeanine Pirro .. It shows.
There was no 'break' from warming.. but idiots do still claim there was ..
Then in 2015, a team led by researchers at the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration published a jaw-dropping conclusion in the journal Science. The rise in global temperatures had not plateaued; rather, incomplete data had obscured ongoing global warming. When more Arctic temperature records were included and biases in ocean temperature data were corrected, the NOAA dataset showed the heat-up continuing. With the newly corrected data, the apparent pause in global warming vanished. A 2017 study led by Hausfather confirmed and extended these findings, as did other reports.
If stupidity could sequester CO2.. you'd solve the warming problem by yourself..
Your next lie .. the Death Tax ..
It's simply a fact.. probably why you don't know it . .. that you can't tax Death but I'm sure if there was a way to do so you right-wing fucks would give your rich overlords a huge deduction . Oh wait.. you did.
There you have it.. I kicked your ignorant ass so hard you've reached escape velocity .. Say 'Hi" to the moon.
BTW.. I'm not Black ..
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Post by thor on Sept 3, 2024 21:13:43 GMT
'Freedom' to Fobbit is using the power of the state to make people who make him uncomfortable as second-class citizens. Do you have any proof of this? A quote? *thor runs away from this question for the hundredth time gif* Your upcoming vote for Trump and support of GOP policies aew all the proof that is needed, Fobbit. Your claims of being a 'libertarian' are excrement, and we both know it. |
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Post by freonbale on Sept 3, 2024 21:14:23 GMT
Well, duh, obvious. I'm intentionally responding to your question with a counter-question. And once again, you have not answered it. Two for two proves my point quite soundly. Freon I’ll wait for an answer to my question. Within this new example within your plethora of Midwit games lies the answer to all of our questions. It really appears that YOU are trying to play a game. I merely accused you of inaccurately interpreting my comment, so you tried to turn this around on me, but I'm not letting you. Feel free to continue playing single-player, I'll wait until you're done. Freon |
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Post by demos on Sept 3, 2024 21:14:23 GMT
The far right is notorious for using double-speak to talk about their goals, like, 'school choice', really meaning tax subsidized religious schooling, and 'free speech', really meaning boundaryless hate speech.Example? |
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Post by freonbale on Sept 3, 2024 21:15:36 GMT
Separation of Church and State is what our founders wanted. And I agree. Pay for your own religious schools, just like the rest of us. Freon Point of clarification. Some of them (like Jefferson) wanted it. Others were ok with established churches, particularly at the state level.
Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but the modern interpretation is that there IS a separation. Freon |
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Post by thor on Sept 3, 2024 21:15:57 GMT
The far right is notorious for using double-speak to talk about their goals, like, 'school choice', really meaning tax subsidized religious schooling, and 'free speech', really meaning boundaryless hate speech. The blueprint for Donald's presidency is Project 2025, and this site ( link) provides a nice way of digging through it, without having to deal with all the double-speak. Enjoy. Freon There is an assumed assumption that my money MUST be used to pay for ONLY govt run schools. Why don’t care if a parent would choose to use their allocated education funds where they choose If a parent feels their best option is a public school fine. A private non denomination school. Fine. A Catholic of Jewish school. Fine. In the VA hospital system some time ago some - not all -veterans anted to apply their funds to a hospital : care of their choice. Some VA hospitals are great. Some suck. Why is choice a bad thing. It is our money after all. PP wants a handout. |
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Post by freonbale on Sept 3, 2024 21:16:24 GMT
I am glad that you own being dishonest and ignorant. Now you are just trying to see how dishonest and ignorant you are. LOL Is that what I'm doing? No. No, it isn't. I'm setting a trap for you, and I'm so confident I will succeed, I'm letting you know about it beforehand. Freon |
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Post by freonbale on Sept 3, 2024 21:18:29 GMT
The far right is notorious for using double-speak to talk about their goals, like, 'school choice', really meaning tax subsidized religious schooling, and 'free speech', really meaning boundaryless hate speech.Example? Ummm...manifestum? per se notum? Freon |
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Post by demos on Sept 3, 2024 21:20:21 GMT
Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but the modern interpretation is that there IS a separation. Freon And I was commenting on the Founders' opinions, which were divided on this subject. Which is why the Danbury Baptists sent that letter to Jefferson in the first place. |
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Post by demos on Sept 3, 2024 21:21:28 GMT
Ummm...manifestum? per se notum? Freon Let's put this another way. What do you interpret as "boundaryless hate speech"? Give an example.
A Nazi march in Skokie?
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Post by thor on Sept 3, 2024 21:26:25 GMT
Who gets to determine them? Us. You AND I. Me AND you. That's the problem with you far righties. You won't negotiate. Come to the table and negotiate. We've been waiting for you since the Civil War. Freon The Founders codified free speech rights in the Constitution to protect that right from the "you and I". The passions of the mob can damage the rights of other individuals more quickly than any other danger.
Do you not understand how evil and perverted it is for the majority to be able to tell someone to shut up or else?
Negotiate away my natural rights? That's what authoritarians want.
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Post by thor on Sept 3, 2024 21:28:55 GMT
Calling you a dumbass is an insult to other dumbasses that are still smarter than you. Luntz in many cases is being more accurate than the watered down propaganda. "Death tax" is actually more descriptive of the brutal reality and unfairness of such a penalty than "estate tax". Partial-birth abortion reflects how the procedure was actually done, rather than the lies of the left to protect their baby killing operations.
Luntz is like you....peddling the "climate change" when global warming lie fell out of favor...that was double speak for your side, not ours, boy. And, like you, Luntz is stupid enough to hate Trump. That alone puts him in the same dumbass category that you infest.
I punted your ignorant ass into orbit last time and still you don't have the decency to thank me..
The notion of a "Death Tax" is idiotic .. you can't tax 'death'.. so we see why you're so attracted to the doublespeak ..
You're stuck on stupid with that partial birth bullshit.. it doesn't happen..
Despite you desperately clinging to your ignorance of science in general .. Climate Change is an older term than Global Warming..
Non-Idiots.. (people who are not you) understand that the two terms describe two different things.. "Climate Change" and "Global Warming" refer to separate aspects of climate science. It's the warming.. globally.. that's forcing climate change..
GW and CC may have been used interchangeably by the talking heads that kept you confused but were never used in that manner by anyone even remotely familiar with climate science.
The argument "they changed the name" suggests that the term 'global warming' was previously the norm, and the widespread use of the term 'climate change' is now.
However, this is simply untrue. For example, a seminal climate science work is Gilbert Plass' 1956 study 'The Carbon Dioxide Theory of Climatic Change' (which coincidentally estimated the climate sensitivity to a doubling of atmospheric carbon dioxide at 3.6°C, not far off from today's widely accepted most likely value of 3°C).
Barrett and Gast published a letter in Science in 1971 entitled simply 'Climate Change'.
The journal 'Climatic Change' was created in 1977 (and is still published today).
The IPCC was formed in 1988, and of course the 'CC' is 'climate change', not 'global warming'. There are many, many other examples of the use of the term 'climate change' many decades ago. There is nothing new whatsoever about the usage of the term.
In fact, according to Google Books, the usage of both terms in books published in the United States has increased at similar rates over the past 40 years:
And a Google Scholar search reveals that the term 'climate change' was in use before the term 'global warming', and has always been the more commonly-used term in scientific literature: So to sum up, although the terms are used interchangeably because they are causally related, 'global warming' and 'climate change' refer to different physical phenomena. The term 'climate change' has been used frequently in the scientific literature for many decades, and the usage of both terms has increased over the past 40 years. Moreover, since the planet continues to warm, there is no reason to change the terminology.
There ya'go .. And if you had any ass left.. I'd kick it too ...
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Post by thor on Sept 3, 2024 21:29:47 GMT
Only MM calls me dishonest, and it's ALWAYS because he's losing an argument. So when it happens, I interpret it as his conceding the point. Yep .. He does it to me too..
It's his go-to move when cornered.. and he practically lives in the corner ..
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Post by rabbitreborn on Sept 3, 2024 21:33:05 GMT
Do you have any proof of this? A quote? *thor runs away from this question for the hundredth time gif* Your upcoming vote for Trump and support of GOP policies aew all the proof that is needed, Fobbit. Your claims of being a 'libertarian' are excrement, and we both know it. Oh cool. So it doesn’t really matter what I say. If somebody is voting for Trump than they are authoritarian. And if Biden, what? Freedom loving patriots? Man. What a nuanced worldview. Kudos, brother. |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Sept 3, 2024 21:38:47 GMT
I’ll wait for an answer to my question. Within this new example within your plethora of Midwit games lies the answer to all of our questions. It really appears that YOU are trying to play a game. I merely accused you of inaccurately interpreting my comment, so you tried to turn this around on me, but I'm not letting you. Feel free to continue playing single-player, I'll wait until you're done. Freon Nah. You deliberately (or through sheer incompetency) omitted the word “only” from my argument twice in a row, even after being reminded. Remember? I can show you how either (a) dishonest or (b) incapable you were with your quotes, if you’d like. |
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