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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2020 0:47:38 GMT
These are positive for us if they hold up. It is possible that some of us are immune to COVID-19 already from past exposure to other Corona-virus. It is also possible that we are approaching herd immunity.
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Post by Lomelis on Jul 6, 2020 1:30:08 GMT
These are positive for us if they hold up. It is possible that some of us are immune to COVID-19 already from past exposure to other Corona-virus. It is also possible that we are approaching herd immunity. Meh. This data would suggest less intrusive government activity would be required. Clearly that is unacceptable. Only incomplete and unproven data that suggests more government involvement would be acceptable to act upon. |
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Post by Odysseus on Jul 6, 2020 2:06:12 GMT
I would caution against assuming any level of herd immunity to covid-19 at this point.
It's possible that the few individuals that show some level of resistance to covid-19 may have built that immunity due to prior exposure this year or the year before to low levels of exposure to covid-19 virus particles either non-viable or below the level required for infection. Not necessarily due to cross resistance to non-covid-19 coronaviruses like the common cold.
It's said that sewer workers rarely get colds, because they are exposed to cold viruses, perhaps non-viable but still capable of stimulating an immune response, through their work.
That said, immunology is a very complex field and the length of time estimated to produce an effective vaccine against covid19 is indicative of that complexity.
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Post by Lomelis on Jul 6, 2020 2:26:14 GMT
I would caution against assuming any level of herd immunity to covid-19 at this point.
It's possible that the few individuals that show some level of resistance to covid-19 may have built that immunity due to prior exposure this year or the year before to low levels of exposure to covid-19 virus particles either non-viable or below the level required for infection. Not necessarily due to cross resistance to non-covid-19 coronaviruses like the common cold.
It's said that sewer workers rarely get colds, because they are exposed to cold viruses, perhaps non-viable but still capable of stimulating an immune response, through their work.
That said, immunology is a very complex field and the length of time estimated to produce an effective vaccine against covid19 is indicative of that complexity.
See. Perfectly acceptable to make policy decisions that ruin millions of lives in one instance based on inconclusive and incomplete data. Not acceptable to make those types of decisions if it can actually allow people to do something or might suggest a previous decision was wrong. |
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Post by Odysseus on Jul 6, 2020 3:18:52 GMT
An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2020 3:43:33 GMT
An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Some times a pound of prevention is worth an ounce of cure. Let's say we decide that space junk might hit your house, but for $100,000 per home and $500,000 per business we could make sure no one does from space junk. Is that really worth it? |
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Post by Odysseus on Jul 6, 2020 5:23:20 GMT
An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Some times a pound of prevention is worth an ounce of cure. Let's say we decide that space junk might hit your house, but for $100,000 per home and $500,000 per business we could make sure no one does from space junk. Is that really worth it?
In what alternate universe is space junk equivalent to a highly contagious respiratory disease?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2020 12:30:17 GMT
Some times a pound of prevention is worth an ounce of cure. Let's say we decide that space junk might hit your house, but for $100,000 per home and $500,000 per business we could make sure no one does from space junk. Is that really worth it?
In what alternate universe is space junk equivalent to a highly contagious respiratory disease?
Well...huh... How do I explain something that simple? For starters, my example wasn't about space junk. Rather, it was about perceived risk versus actual risk. Space junk was just an obviously low risk problem. In my example, the world wrongly determined that we had to mitigate the small risk with large cost. The point is, folksy sayings aren't always true. They are especially untrue if the perspective is extremely skewed. You know, I had to work really hard to dumb that down for you. If you don't understand it now, I don't know what else to say. |
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