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Post by Mercy for All on Apr 20, 2024 13:54:33 GMT
There have historically been political tendencies towards the illegality of recreation drug use. I wonder how those tendencies would be represented here.
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Post by runswithscissors on Apr 20, 2024 14:07:16 GMT
Over regulation of a drug (alcohol) is what created organized crime in the US. They had it made for thirteen years or so.
A real life example of this type of over regulation exists here in TN. Apparently there is a state law that says ALL persons purchasing alcohol must provide a "valid" ID proving your age. I keep my drivers license in the glove box of my car along with my insurance and registration cards. The only ID I carry in my wallet is my old military ID. It even has my thumb prints on the back of it. But it expired in January 81 (the point I was no longer in the inactive reserve). I use this ID to vote with here. But because it's "expired" I can't use it to buy beer. The first time I was confronted on this, I thought it was the damn dumbest thing I'd ever heard...I even said to the clerk "yeah, but that doesn't change how old I am." I now go a little more than a mile down the road to VA to buy beer. They don't even ask for an ID.
I've thought of challenging this TN thing as being a violation of the constitutional amendment about equal protection under the law but probably won't. The thought of having to actually deal with such stupidity for any length of time makes me ass drag.
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Post by Monster Man on Apr 20, 2024 14:30:01 GMT
Over regulation of a drug (alcohol) is what created organized crime in the US. They had it made for thirteen years or so. A real life example of this type of over regulation exists here in TN. Apparently there is a state law that says ALL persons purchasing alcohol must provide a "valid" ID proving your age. I keep my drivers license in the glove box of my car along with my insurance and registration cards. The only ID I carry in my wallet is my old military ID. It even has my thumb prints on the back of it. But it expired in January 81 (the point I was no longer in the inactive reserve). I use this ID to vote with here. But because it's "expired" I can't use it to buy beer. The first time I was confronted on this, I thought it was the damn dumbest thing I'd ever heard...I even said to the clerk "yeah, but that doesn't change how old I am." I now go a little more than a mile down the road to VA to buy beer. They don't even ask for an ID. I've thought of challenging this TN thing as being a violation of the constitutional amendment about equal protection under the law but probably won't. The thought of having to actually deal with such stupidity for any length of time makes me ass drag. Just walk back to your car to get your ID or bring it in with you next time... "I keep my drivers license in the glove box of my car" In the time it took you type up this garbage of a post you could have gotten your ID.
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Post by rabbitreborn on Apr 20, 2024 14:39:28 GMT
There have historically been political tendencies towards the illegality of recreation drug use. I wonder how those tendencies would be represented here. They are still over-regulated. But like every progressive victory where I have common cause, they keep going and push too far. Walking through city streets, I smell weed everywhere. I hate that. I think it’s bad for kids to have that exposure in public places. I don’t think abusing any drug (even caffeine) is good for anybody. I just think incarcerating and punishing people legally for using drugs at home or with friends is significantly worse for society than the effects of drugs consumed in a home / on private property. The drug war is worse than people using drugs. Still, the glorification and celebration of drug use is not good for society either.
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Post by runswithscissors on Apr 20, 2024 14:45:07 GMT
When I was about eleven years old I used to run around the neighborhood with another guy down the street. His dad was a radio announcer and had been stricken with polio as a child so he wears braces on both legs, had a hand lever to push the brake in his car.
Anyway, he would send his son and me up to the Town and Country Market on our bikes to buy him a six pack of Ballantine Ale. The store owner knew the father and knew us. He sold us the beer every time. This was probably 1964 or so.
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Post by freonbale on Apr 20, 2024 16:08:03 GMT
There have historically been political tendencies towards the illegality of recreation drug use. I wonder how those tendencies would be represented here. Wow, this one's hard, but a good question, Mercy. I think the easiest approach is about weighing positives and negatives. Positives. Freedom to do as we want. Are there any others? Negatives. Crime associated with obtaining drugs. Abuse of drugs, resulting in harm or death to others (from drunk driving to spousal abuse). Long-term health problems that increase overall healthcare costs. Drug addiction creating homeless and/or non-contributing citizens. Drugs that are impure, causing harm or death. So anyone is welcome to add to my lists, but it seems the negatives FAR outweigh the positives, and yet Freedom is HUGELY important. Is it more important than the negatives? My personal view is no, and therefore, recreational drugs SHOULD be regulated. The next question, is to what degree should they be regulated, and in what ways. And that's even more complicated. My feeling is that in the US, there is an adequate balance between the regulation and Freedom, especially now that marijuana is legal in most modern states. Another question might be, should more drugs be considered recreational. I would say, in general, no, but it's really a case-by-case question. Freon
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Post by HolyMoly on Apr 20, 2024 21:40:55 GMT
Oh okay. I thought this would be about which drugs liberals like and which drugs conservatives prefer. I recall reading about the differences between the two groups in the consumer brands they prefer. It's quite interesting. Liberals and conservatives like different makes of cars, different brands of beer, food, and so on down the line.
The Indian tribe down the road wants to sell weed. If they do, our local wingnut Representative is promising to cut their transportation funding. Damn spoilsport. I would never smoke weed again, but I'd like to buy edibles. Yummy.
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Post by Odysseus on Apr 20, 2024 23:50:13 GMT
Although in my younger years, I tried a variety of recreational "drugs", I haven't for at least 10 years.
Today, in fact, I tried a cup of coffee. Haven't had any of that for at least six months... not bad.
LOL.
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Post by greebnurt on Apr 21, 2024 0:37:53 GMT
Although in my younger years, I tried a variety of recreational "drugs", I haven't for at least 10 years.
Today, in fact, I tried a cup of coffee. Haven't had any of that for at least six months... not bad.
LOL.
You had stale beer less than a year ago.
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Post by Odysseus on Apr 21, 2024 0:39:50 GMT
Although in my younger years, I tried a variety of recreational "drugs", I haven't for at least 10 years.
Today, in fact, I tried a cup of coffee. Haven't had any of that for at least six months... not bad.
LOL.
You had stale beer less than a year ago.
Greebnurt is a like a stale beer.
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Post by greebnurt on Apr 21, 2024 1:17:00 GMT
You had stale beer less than a year ago.
Greebnurt is a like a stale beer.
You had stake beer less than a year ago. Now, stop and think for a sec - if I'm like stale beer, and YOU HAD stale beer less than a year ago . . . ummmmmm . . . Skeet, skeet, skeet! You nasty, Odisseus! Thanks for finishing me off.
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Post by Odysseus on Apr 21, 2024 1:18:33 GMT
Greebnurt is a like a stale beer.
You had stake beer less than a year ago. Now, stop and think for a sec - if I'm like stale beer, and YOU HAD stale beer less than a year ago . . . ummmmmm . . . Skeet, skeet, skeet! You nasty, Odisseus! Thanks for finishing me off.
Prove it!
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Post by greebnurt on Apr 21, 2024 1:55:17 GMT
You had stake beer less than a year ago. Now, stop and think for a sec - if I'm like stale beer, and YOU HAD stale beer less than a year ago . . . ummmmmm . . . Skeet, skeet, skeet! You nasty, Odisseus! Thanks for finishing me off.
Prove it!
You don't remember the multiple threads in which you admitted to trying stale beer you found in your house? The threads where you ousted yourself as a hoarder, because only a hoarder would have beer stored in their dining room in such a manner that they not only didn't know about it, but it was also there long enough to go bad? You don't remember that? You're the idiot who typed and posted all that shit. How many dead cats are in your attic?
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Post by Odysseus on Apr 21, 2024 2:03:27 GMT
All Greebnurt has done is to embarrass himself even further.
He's clearly a major douche.
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Post by bama beau on Apr 21, 2024 2:06:12 GMT
There have historically been political tendencies towards the illegality of recreation drug use. I wonder how those tendencies would be represented here. Nice poll.
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Post by greebnurt on Apr 21, 2024 2:06:21 GMT
All Greebnurt has done is to embarrass himself even further.
He's clearly a major douche.
So you're saying you don't remember the threads where you admitted to being a hoarder? Damn dude, your neighbor really did a number on you. You might want to get a brain scan.
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Post by Odysseus on Apr 21, 2024 2:08:04 GMT
All Greebnurt has done is to embarrass himself even further.
He's clearly a major douche.
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Post by bama beau on Apr 21, 2024 2:15:08 GMT
There have historically been political tendencies towards the illegality of recreation drug use. I wonder how those tendencies would be represented here. They are still over-regulated. But like every progressive victory where I have common cause, they keep going and push too far. Walking through city streets, I smell weed everywhere. I hate that. I think it’s bad for kids to have that exposure in public places. I don’t think abusing any drug (even caffeine) is good for anybody. I just think incarcerating and punishing people legally for using drugs at home or with friends is significantly worse for society than the effects of drugs consumed in a home / on private property. The drug war is worse than people using drugs. Still, the glorification and celebration of drug use is not good for society either. What does it say to you about our humanity that despite all that, so many humans will still choose to chemically alter their mood? Or better yet, the human condition? Would every species choose to chemically alter their mood? Or are they likely doing it already?
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Post by bama beau on Apr 21, 2024 2:26:37 GMT
When I was about eleven years old I used to run around the neighborhood with another guy down the street. His dad was a radio announcer and had been stricken with polio as a child so he wears braces on both legs, had a hand lever to push the brake in his car. Anyway, he would send his son and me up to the Town and Country Market on our bikes to buy him a six pack of Ballantine Ale. The store owner knew the father and knew us. He sold us the beer every time. This was probably 1964 or so. When we were in our teens, we bought Miller Ponies down at Harper's Market on North St. Paul Harper was in my homeroom.
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Post by bama beau on Apr 21, 2024 2:32:31 GMT
There have historically been political tendencies towards the illegality of recreation drug use. I wonder how those tendencies would be represented here. Wow, this one's hard, but a good question, Mercy. I think the easiest approach is about weighing positives and negatives. Positives. Freedom to do as we want. Are there any others? Negatives. Crime associated with obtaining drugs. Abuse of drugs, resulting in harm or death to others (from drunk driving to spousal abuse). Long-term health problems that increase overall healthcare costs. Drug addiction creating homeless and/or non-contributing citizens. Drugs that are impure, causing harm or death. So anyone is welcome to add to my lists, but it seems the negatives FAR outweigh the positives, and yet Freedom is HUGELY important. Is it more important than the negatives? My personal view is no, and therefore, recreational drugs SHOULD be regulated. The next question, is to what degree should they be regulated, and in what ways. And that's even more complicated. My feeling is that in the US, there is an adequate balance between the regulation and Freedom, especially now that marijuana is legal in most modern states. Another question might be, should more drugs be considered recreational. I would say, in general, no, but it's really a case-by-case question. Freon I can't believe anyone can read something like this and then claim to disbelieve you when you proclaim yourself a recovering Republican.
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