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Post by thor on Apr 27, 2024 1:52:32 GMT
One point our resident wannabe slaver often tries to make is that the South was just about to end slavery on their own .. There are two way to "tell" that THAT^ is total bullshit. ..
1: Paleo said it .
B: The Confederate Constitution tell us it is .. Article 1 Sec. 9. (4) No bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law denying or impairing the right of property in negro slaves shall be passed.
Article 4 Sec. 2. (I) The citizens of each State shall be entitled to all the privileges and immunities of citizens in the several States; and shall have the right of transit and sojourn in any State of this Confederacy, with their slaves and other property; and the right of property in said slaves shall not be thereby impaired.
(3) No slave or other person held to service or labor in any State or Territory of the Confederate States, under the laws thereof, escaping or lawfully carried into another, shall, in consequence of any law or regulation therein, be discharged from such service or labor; but shall be delivered up on claim of the party to whom such slave belongs,. or to whom such service or labor may be due.
Sec. 3. (3) The Confederate States may acquire new territory; and Congress shall have power to legislate and provide governments for the inhabitants of all territory belonging to the Confederate States, lying without the limits of the several Sates; and may permit them, at such times, and in such manner as it may by law provide, to form States to be admitted into the Confederacy. In all such territory the institution of negro slavery, as it now exists in the Confederate States, shall be recognized and protected be Congress and by the Territorial government; and the inhabitants of the several Confederate States and Territories shall have the right to take to such Territory any slaves lawfully held by them in any of the States or Territories of the Confederate States.
All speak of the institution of slavery as critically important to the newly created (illegally) country.. And pay particular attention to Article 4 Section 3 Paragraph 3 above where the notion that the South intended to end slavery is put out of it's misery .. It speaks to protecting the future of slavery in the South. A future where any territory that becomes part of the new (illegal) country MUST be a slave state.. A future that Paleo says was not a possibility.
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And THAT, Ladies and Gentlemen, is how one kicks an unreconstructed sociopath's arrogant ass into orbit .. again ..
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Post by thor on Apr 27, 2024 1:55:03 GMT
Conservative democrats ..
The Democrats were considered conservatives before they started supporting the middle class over the wealthy and social issues mid century..
The final straw was when the Democratic Party embraced the Civil Right's of 1964, after which white Southern Conservatives (read racists) registered and voted Republican. But then you knew that ..
I've explained this to you many times.. Why do think it is that you insist on confusing political parties with ideologies .. ?
Relabeling yourself does not change facts. What was Robert Byrd. A democrat. Who praised Robert Byrd? Biden. Go ahead and tell me. That was the 1830’s Lincoln was a republican. Since all those Democrats want to take their statues down, why are you opposed to it, PP?
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Post by thor on Apr 27, 2024 1:58:28 GMT
Paleo clown can always be counted on to speak up in defense of slavery and insurrection. It's imprinted on his reptilian brain. he has never supported slavery. He has debated intelligently the many reasons behind the war. Nope. He gotten his ass kicked repeatedly, because the 'many reasons' were related to slavery. And the Confederates told us this themselves, dummy.
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Post by Paleocon on Apr 27, 2024 21:06:39 GMT
he has never supported slavery. He has debated intelligently the many reasons behind the war. He is an incessant apologist for slavery. He dismisses it as nothing to be concerned about. He denies it caused a civil war. He has advocated ignorantly for lost cause nonsense over and over. He's a relic, parroting things his grandfather told him. Has anyone noticed that these liberals are dishonest most of the time? Is that part of their DNA....a gene that causes them to have no integrity?
It's stupidly dishonest claim that I ever said that slavery was "nothing to be concerned about". Only a discredited fabulist pretends that I haven't repeatedly proven that slavery did not cause the war between the states (calling it a civil war is a lie, too). As far as the "lost cause nonsense", you're just unhappy that I've dusted your fat ass with it anytime you or your fellow morons have attempted your lies about the South and toward me.
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Post by Paleocon on Apr 28, 2024 2:41:28 GMT
One point our resident wannabe slaver often tries to make is that the South was just about to end slavery on their own .. There are two way to "tell" that THAT^ is total bullshit. ..
1: Paleo said it .
B: The Confederate Constitution tell us it is .. Article 1 Sec. 9. (4) No bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law denying or impairing the right of property in negro slaves shall be passed.
Article 4 Sec. 2. (I) The citizens of each State shall be entitled to all the privileges and immunities of citizens in the several States; and shall have the right of transit and sojourn in any State of this Confederacy, with their slaves and other property; and the right of property in said slaves shall not be thereby impaired.
(3) No slave or other person held to service or labor in any State or Territory of the Confederate States, under the laws thereof, escaping or lawfully carried into another, shall, in consequence of any law or regulation therein, be discharged from such service or labor; but shall be delivered up on claim of the party to whom such slave belongs,. or to whom such service or labor may be due.
Sec. 3. (3) The Confederate States may acquire new territory; and Congress shall have power to legislate and provide governments for the inhabitants of all territory belonging to the Confederate States, lying without the limits of the several Sates; and may permit them, at such times, and in such manner as it may by law provide, to form States to be admitted into the Confederacy. In all such territory the institution of negro slavery, as it now exists in the Confederate States, shall be recognized and protected be Congress and by the Territorial government; and the inhabitants of the several Confederate States and Territories shall have the right to take to such Territory any slaves lawfully held by them in any of the States or Territories of the Confederate States.
All speak of the institution of slavery as critically important to the newly created (illegally) country.. And pay particular attention to Article 4 Section 3 Paragraph 3 above where the notion that the South intended to end slavery is put out of it's misery .. It speaks to protecting the future of slavery in the South. A future where any territory that becomes part of the new (illegal) country MUST be a slave state.. A future that Paleo says was not a possibility.
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And THAT, Ladies and Gentlemen, is how one kicks an unreconstructed sociopath's arrogant ass into orbit .. again ..
So sad. You're actually proud of your stupidity and dishonesty, aren't you, boy? There was nothing illegal about the Confederacy; I've proven that often enough that you look like an imbecile when you spew the lie that Southerners' secession wasn't legal. No one but your fellow dumbasses believe you.
That last paragraph of Article 4, Section 3 says that slavery would be recognized " as it now exists in the Confederate States", meaning that if it NOW didn't exist in those Confederate States, the same would be true in the territories. It was a POLITICAL section aimed at preventing the rancorous legislative conflict that the Confederates had just left.
And folks, here's a little tidbit that this stupid leftist bastard left out of his little tantrum:
Article 4, Sec. 2 Paragraph 3 came almost verbatim from the UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION! It's exactly the same article, section and clause in both constitutions. Here's the U.S. version with exactly the same meaning and effect:
No Person held to Service or Labour in one State, under the Laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in Consequence of any Law or Regulation therein, be discharged from such Service or Labour, but shall be delivered up on Claim of the Party to whom such Service or Labour may be due.
Only the word "slave" was added, and we know how much Fiddler hates clarity and accuracy in such things. By Fiddler's perverted logic, that means that slavery was "critically important" to the United States.
Fiddler, lacking any semblance of honesty, also left this out when he was cherry picking from the Confederate Constitution:
1.9.1 “The importation of Negroes of the African race, from any foreign country other than the slaveholding States or Territories of the United States of America, is hereby forbidden; and Congress is required to pass such laws as shall effectively prevent the same.”
1.9.2 “Congress shall also have power to prohibit the introduction of slaves from any State not a member of or Territory not belonging to this Confederacy.”
The ban on the importation of slaves was a message to the powers in Europe that the Confederates agreed with their stand against the African slave trade, a global abolitionist position. It was a concession to the world that wanted slavery to end in an attempt to gain foreign recognition.
The ban on importation in the Confederate Constitution was more prohibitive than the one in the U.S. Constitution (which only authorized Congress to act at their discretion after a certain date).
Those two clauses alone show a desire to stop any new slaves from entering the Confederacy.....not something that is done if slavery was going to expand into the future. Southerners knew that slavery would be fatally damaged even if their secession was successful; they could see the global trend and knew that the financial and economic cost would be unbearable if they didn't act to end slavery at some point in the near future. With slavery, they would be a pariah in the world even if no war had occurred.
Fiddler looks pretty stupid after I exposed his ignorant ass to the many changes made in the Confederate Constitution that are unrelated to slavery. If slavery was their cause, why would they have bothered with all of the other issues addressed in the same document?
These Yankee loving liars don't want you to see the whole picture, just the cherry picked pieces that support their lies. That's what makes kicking their collective asses so rewarding for me. Although, I must admit that I need no reason at all to kick Fiddler's ass. He always deserves it, even when he's wise enough to keep his pie hole closed.
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Post by Paleocon on Apr 28, 2024 2:43:18 GMT
he has never supported slavery. He has debated intelligently the many reasons behind the war. Nope. He gotten his ass kicked repeatedly, because the 'many reasons' were related to slavery. And the Confederates told us this themselves, dummy. Never happened, twink, but no worries. Only a few of the leftist perverts will believe what you say anyway.
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Post by thor on Apr 28, 2024 3:35:47 GMT
Nope. He gotten his ass kicked repeatedly, because the 'many reasons' were related to slavery. And the Confederates told us this themselves, dummy. Never happened, twink, but no worries. Only a few of the leftist perverts will believe what you say anyway. Took you long enough, Cuck. Your Top been wrecking your ass? Trigger time.....
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Post by Paleocon on Apr 28, 2024 13:22:15 GMT
Never happened, twink, but no worries. Only a few of the leftist perverts will believe what you say anyway. Took you long enough, Cuck. Your Top been wrecking your ass? Trigger time..... Don't kid yourself, boy. Only animals like you get triggered. Looks like I triggered YOU with my latest posts on two threads.
Excellent self own, twink.
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