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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 20:45:24 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 20:49:36 GMT
Your bigotry is showing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 20:51:11 GMT
I'm sure some of them are very fine people. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 20:57:07 GMT
I'm sure some of them are very fine people. Now your bigotry is being flaunted. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 21:04:29 GMT
I'm sure some of them are very fine people. Now your bigotry is being flaunted. Write it off as bigotry but this doesn't look good at all and hopefully the truth comes out and the rapist is found. Whether the rapist is a cop or not, he does seem to be on their side. Its not bigotry to admit the police sometimes do deplorable stuff, like rape teenagers they have in their custody or plant drugs on people, or kill dogs for no good reason, or injure children during misguided no-knock raids, etc. In fact, if we won't criticize the police when they are wrong, isn't that a form of bigotry? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 21:17:34 GMT
Now your bigotry is being flaunted. Write it off as bigotry but this doesn't look good at all and hopefully the truth comes out and the rapist is found. Whether the rapist is a cop or not, he does seem to be on their side. Its not bigotry to admit the police sometimes do deplorable stuff, like rape teenagers they have in their custody or plant drugs on people, or kill dogs for no good reason, or injure children during misguided no-knock raids, etc. In fact, if we won't criticize the police when they are wrong, isn't that a form of bigotry? It isn't about criticizing them when they are wrong. You are presuming guilt with no evidence. You are no different than a lynch mob after a black man that is rumored to have slept with a white woman. You have no proof, but you offer judgement and punishment any way. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 21:34:57 GMT
Write it off as bigotry but this doesn't look good at all and hopefully the truth comes out and the rapist is found. Whether the rapist is a cop or not, he does seem to be on their side. Its not bigotry to admit the police sometimes do deplorable stuff, like rape teenagers they have in their custody or plant drugs on people, or kill dogs for no good reason, or injure children during misguided no-knock raids, etc. In fact, if we won't criticize the police when they are wrong, isn't that a form of bigotry? It isn't about criticizing them when they are wrong. You are presuming guilt with no evidence. You are no different than a lynch mob after a black man that is rumored to have slept with a white woman. You have no proof, but you offer judgement and punishment any way. We don't have a suspect, yet. Circumstantial evidence points to this potentially being an act of retaliation by law enforcement. Do you have a problem with someone pointing that out? If so, why? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 21:41:38 GMT
It isn't about criticizing them when they are wrong. You are presuming guilt with no evidence. You are no different than a lynch mob after a black man that is rumored to have slept with a white woman. You have no proof, but you offer judgement and punishment any way. We don't have a suspect, yet. Circumstantial evidence points to this potentially being an act of retaliation by law enforcement. Do you have a problem with someone pointing that out? If so, why? Yes I do. Because the evidence isn't circumstantial. It is, at best, speculative. We could speculate that it was an illegal alien too. That doesn't make it correct. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 21:58:12 GMT
We don't have a suspect, yet. Circumstantial evidence points to this potentially being an act of retaliation by law enforcement. Do you have a problem with someone pointing that out? If so, why? Yes I do. Because the evidence isn't circumstantial. It is, at best, speculative. I say you're wrong about that. Its both speculative AND circumstantial. There's a prior conflict which even escalated into doxxing, allegedly by police (we will see what evidence backs this claim). Then someone who lives at the same address as the doxxed individual is attacked and in the course of the rape a comment is made that connects the attack to something personal. That takes the rape of out of the ballpark of "random" attack. It doesn't even look explicitly sexual in its motivation. It looks more like a message. None of that suggests the rapist was a cop. But the circumstances surrounding the attack certainly suggest it was connected to the defund controversy. I'm not certain of anything. But if I were a betting man, my money would be that the rapist is a cop or a friend of them. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 22:09:46 GMT
Yes I do. Because the evidence isn't circumstantial. It is, at best, speculative. I say you're wrong about that. Its both speculative AND circumstantial. There's a prior conflict which even escalated into doxxing, allegedly by police (we will see what evidence backs this claim). Then someone who lives at the same address as the doxxed individual is attacked and in the course of the rape a comment is made that connects the attack to something personal. That takes the rape of out of the ballpark of "random" attack. It doesn't even look explicitly sexual in its motivation. It looks more like a message.None of that suggests the rapist was a cop. But the circumstances surrounding the attack certainly suggest it was connected to the defund controversy. I'm not certain of anything.But if I were a betting man, my money would be that the rapist is a cop or a friend of them. I put everything in red that was speculative. The blue is circumstantial. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 23:21:47 GMT
I say you're wrong about that. Its both speculative AND circumstantial. There's a prior conflict which even escalated into doxxing, allegedly by police (we will see what evidence backs this claim). Then someone who lives at the same address as the doxxed individual is attacked and in the course of the rape a comment is made that connects the attack to something personal. That takes the rape of out of the ballpark of "random" attack. It doesn't even look explicitly sexual in its motivation. It looks more like a message.None of that suggests the rapist was a cop. But the circumstances surrounding the attack certainly suggest it was connected to the defund controversy. I'm not certain of anything.But if I were a betting man, my money would be that the rapist is a cop or a friend of them. I put everything in red that was speculative. The blue is circumstantial. It is not speculative that a rape occurred and its not speculative that a comment was made during the rape which referenced some personal conflict. By suggesting these facts are mere speculations, you are discrediting yourself as an honest broker in this conversation. |
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Post by jasmine on Jun 28, 2020 23:22:24 GMT
That”’s a *LOT* of assumptions in that OP.
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Post by jasmine on Jun 28, 2020 23:23:19 GMT
I put everything in red that was speculative. The blue is circumstantial. It is not speculative that a rape occurred and its not speculative that a comment was made during the rape which referenced some personal conflict. By suggesting these facts are mere speculations, you are discrediting yourself as an honest broker in this conversation. How do you know that this “comment” was actually made? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 23:23:45 GMT
That”’s a *LOT* of assumptions in that OP. I see one. Hardly a "lot." |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 23:24:50 GMT
It is not speculative that a rape occurred and its not speculative that a comment was made during the rape which referenced some personal conflict. By suggesting these facts are mere speculations, you are discrediting yourself as an honest broker in this conversation. How do you know that this “comment” was actually made? How do you know the rape actually happened? How do we know this councilperson even exists? |
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Post by jasmine on Jun 28, 2020 23:26:18 GMT
How do you know that this “comment” was actually made? How do you know the rape actually happened? How do we know this councilperson even exists? Again, I ask: How do you know the comment was actually made? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 23:28:50 GMT
How do you know the rape actually happened? How do we know this councilperson even exists? Again, I ask: How do you know the comment was actually made? Its in the article, apparently as a part of the public record/ police report. I don't think you understand what I am getting at with those questions. If we doubt that comment was made, we might as well doubt the rape happened. Its all from the same person's word. |
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Post by jasmine on Jun 28, 2020 23:32:51 GMT
Again, I ask: How do you know the comment was actually madeIts all from the same person's word. Exactly. And how do we know this lady is being truthful? We don’t. Let’s see what happens. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 23:40:09 GMT
Exactly. And how do we know this lady is being truthful? We don’t. Let’s see what happens. I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt unless given a reason to believe otherwise. |
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Post by Odysseus on Jun 28, 2020 23:41:18 GMT
Exactly. And how do we know this lady is being truthful? We don’t. Let’s see what happens. I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt unless given a reason to believe otherwise.
As it should be for the victims of violent crime.
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