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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2020 0:50:53 GMT
And here's the fulcrum that has forced even guys like us into opposing camps. The American Democrat Party is on the naughty side too. Yes. It is bad. Whatchu gonna do? Start a war to free Russia's citizens from their rulers? Get some good old fashioned regime change arguments going again? Why not? The liberal world order has been doing a gangbusters job with that one haven't they? They *know* what to do. Just let them handle it, eh? No I know! Start fearmongering about how this tough, bad, scary and dangerously powerful hooker that can't get a group of testosterone laden footballers to fuck her for free is converting the entire world through 3d social media chess!1!1!!one Queshank Russia is not a military or economic threat. I'm not sure we're in opposing camps, unless you like country 'n western. In which case I will hunt you down. Russia, I cautiously believe, is a threat to our (y'know... "our") ways of managing some basics, like accountability in Government, freedom of speech, and economic justice. We don't need aircraft carriers and tanks to counter this* we need clear public discourse. We need firm dealings via legal and diplomatic and trade means with the criminal elements in Russia's economic and political elites. We need their dupes and stooges in "our" body politic, economy, media held accountable. Democracy is absolutely the worst form of Government, except for all the others. It's delicate, it's precious, it needs looking after. *actually, maybe we do need tanks, Russia is very good at tanks and their best are at least as good as Abrams and Challenger 2.
We're in opposite camps because you think the political entities opposed to and critical of Russia ... like the American Democrat Party ... are your allies.
And I see them as my enemy and the enemy of all free peoples.
A turd is a turd whether it comes from the ass end of a cat or a dog.
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Post by bama beau on Aug 29, 2020 5:23:46 GMT
Is that why you used it? Are you the brander, or the branded?
Yes. That's why I used it.
The Democrats have demonstrated pretty clearly, especially since 2016, they are the least democratic political force in America. So there's something ... unseemly ... about calling them the "Democratic" party. Just in the past 5 decades, they literally created an oligarchy made up of establishment elitists to prevent popular uprisings of the people. An oligarchy that worked very hard against the will of the people in both 2016 and now in 2020.
And that's not even getting into people who claim to be Democrats not just advocating but actively curtailing speech, free thought and even free association.
Believing the Democrats are champions of democracy is as dumb as believing NAFTA was about "free trade" because that's what the F and the T stand for. Seems to be another branding scheme people on the left fell for.
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Post by bama beau on Aug 29, 2020 6:22:09 GMT
Does the victim have to die for the message to be received, loudly and clearly? But yeah, he didn't die! The message that Russia is an incompetent 3rd world country?
No. If the victim died, Russia wouldn't be an incompetent and inferior state. Duh.
I mean come on. Barack Obama never missed a single drone assassination target during his time in office. THATS how assassination is done by a serious contender for "superpower status," son.
Russia's over there randomly setting down poisonous drinks and hoping the right person drinks them. And nearly always getting "the mix" wrong so their target walks away. Laughter is the appropriate response. Not more pearl clutching and Judge Smailish antics.
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Post by MojoJojo on Aug 29, 2020 13:14:17 GMT
Does the victim have to die for the message to be received, loudly and clearly? But yeah, he didn't die! The message that Russia is an incompetent 3rd world country? Is anybody arguing they're not? This incompetent third world country is ruled by a ruthless criminal who represents everything undemocratic and illiberal who happens to possess a nuclear stockpile that could end human civilization. Not every third world country can say that. No. If the victim died, Russia wouldn't be an incompetent and inferior state. Duh.
I mean come on. Barack Obama never missed a single drone assassination target during his time in office. THATS how assassination is done by a serious contender for "superpower status," son.
Russia's over there randomly setting down poisonous drinks and hoping the right person drinks them. And nearly always getting "the mix" wrong so their target walks away. Laughter is the appropriate response. Not more pearl clutching and Judge Smailish antics.
Queshank
I get it, we're a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. As bad as we are and have been, being in Putin's focus may involve poisoning or bullshit charges whereas being in Trump's focus may involve some poisonous tweets. |
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