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Post by MojoJojo on Aug 18, 2020 17:10:58 GMT
It is hard for me to believe you are Jewish. The ones I know are very intelligent and successful people. And two that I know are on pistol teams. One in Connecticut, and one here in Florida. And they ae not democrats. Would you like me to send you a picture of my circumcised penis? Freon
Dude. Don't encourage him. You need to embrace the fact that you're a Hitler-Stalin supporting Jew, just as I am a Hitler-Stalin supporting atheist.
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Post by freonbale on Aug 18, 2020 17:14:52 GMT
Would you like me to send you a picture of my circumcised penis? Freon
Dude. Don't encourage him. You need to embrace the fact that you're a Hitler-Stalin supporting Jew, just as I am a Hitler-Stalin supporting atheist. Oh c'mon, that was funny. Admit it.
Freon
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2020 17:21:53 GMT
as a side, TL, how many times have I schooled you with actual pages and pages of quotes from hitler himself on socialism, or FBI gang data...why is it so embarrassing for you... By my count, zero.
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Post by petep on Aug 18, 2020 17:30:15 GMT
TL will have to admit this - I was stated that hitler had countless quotes claiming to be a socialist..TL said he did not believe it...frankly I was flabbergasted that anyone could be so ignorant, considering the name of the party was the national german workers socialist party - so I posted the link... and he refused to read it, saying he didn't have time and wanted me to summarize it... here is the link for those interested: en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_HitlerNo one - no one - can read thru all of these hundreds of quotes by him, and claim HE did not believe he was a socialist, his own form of national socialism... now we can debate is it ussr style, or cuba style, or china style, or n korea style... but you cannot deny what he himself stated in his writings and his talks
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2020 17:32:48 GMT
TL will have to admit this - I was stated that hitler had countless quotes claiming to be a socialist.. TL said he did not believe it... That never happened. The argument is that Hitler meant something very different by the term than we do. You always come around to that understanding. Then forget about it right up until I remind you again.
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Post by Fiddler on Aug 18, 2020 17:36:34 GMT
Hey .. It is what it is.. Right? I know Michelle Obama used the phrased "It is what it is" last night (it was actually on her teleprompter!), and Democrats were tickled by it and found it overwhelmingly persuasive. But I don't speak Ebonics, so I don't know what it means. Would you please translate? It appears some of your fellow Nazis "speak Ebonics" ..
- Trumplethinskin ... Michelle used his words sarcastically .. I'm afraid grasping the effect is above you..
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Post by Fiddler on Aug 18, 2020 17:39:45 GMT
Not only were the Nazis violent like Democrats are, but they also put a strong emphasis on social welfare programs like the Democrats do--although I don't think they extended the welfare programs to come-one-and-all immigrants. That's why they were "national" socialists rather than "international" socialists. So I'm to take from that that Nazis were more humane in that regard than present day Right-Wingers? Sounds believable.
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Post by petep on Aug 18, 2020 17:42:42 GMT
yes dman...looking at the countries like the ussr, cuba...they were not nationalist at all...sure they weren't...their people came and go as they pleased...(I'm agreeing with you)
and TL, what do you mean than the term "WE" do...
I know what socialist means to me...and I can look at history and pretty much every person that espoused it and conned the people into actually believing they'd be taken care of and these same people that espoused it as a means of gaining power, abused the people
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Post by freonbale on Aug 18, 2020 17:43:05 GMT
TL will have to admit this - I was stated that hitler had countless quotes claiming to be a socialist..TL said he did not believe it...frankly I was flabbergasted that anyone could be so ignorant, considering the name of the party was the national german workers socialist party - so I posted the link... and he refused to read it, saying he didn't have time and wanted me to summarize it... here is the link for those interested: en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_HitlerNo one - no one - can read thru all of these hundreds of quotes by him, and claim HE did not believe he was a socialist, his own form of national socialism... now we can debate is it ussr style, or cuba style, or china style, or n korea style... but you cannot deny what he himself stated in his writings and his talks That is sort of a bizarre argument. If we are to assume that Hitler said what he believed, then we also must assume that Trump does as well. And we ALL know Trump says just what is necessary to get his base to follow him, nothing more. So too, it is reasonable to conclude that Hitler had his goals, and said whatever he needed to, to convince the populace to back him.
Wow. If you can't see the parallel, it is no wonder these crazy people can come to power. Freon
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Post by Fiddler on Aug 18, 2020 17:52:50 GMT
So I'm to take from that that Nazis were more humane in that regard than present day Right-Wingers? Sounds believable.
By "humane," do you mean controlling?
No.. I'm using the standard definition. Enlighten us in how Nazis define it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2020 18:00:15 GMT
and TL, what do you mean than the term "WE" do... We as in "us." The people on planet earth in 2020 who care about such things.
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Post by limey² on Aug 18, 2020 18:09:52 GMT
I read these threads and I wonder if back in the 1930s the supporters of the German workers socialist party were harassing the non socialist supporters for not being progressive enough? After all, Hitler’s party did garner the most votes. History never studies the people that lobby and get what they want, and then regret getting it... Au contraire.... blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexit/2018/07/19/which-voters-have-changed-their-minds-about-brexit/
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Post by petep on Aug 18, 2020 19:33:11 GMT
Limey, I suppose I’m thinking more along the lines of the pro socialists who for example cheered chavez when he seized and nationalized the evil corporate run oil companies. Promised the people great things. And the socialists loved him for it. Until he seized just about everything. Then they were weeping saying he promised us he wouldn’t do this.
I have no sympathy. How many times can people for for the same class warfare lie
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